Wikipedia losing contributors: Fatal flaw, the community editors?
Summary: Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales admits that the world's fifth most visited website is losing contributors, partly down to the complexity of the site. Others cite poor community engagement.
Wikipedia, the world's largest online encyclopedia, is struggling to maintain the contributors which make the site what it is, said founder Jimmy Wales on Thursday.
Criticised over the years for its lack of community focus -- even though the site is community run and led by thousands of volunteers and contributors -- its current problem is with its complex machinery of templates, editing and strict editorial guidance.
Scrambling to make the editorial process simpler and easier for the general population to engage with, speaking to the Associated Press, Wales described some of the setbacks that Wikipedia has to deal with to evolve.
With over 3 million entries, the site's articles are subject to daily pranks, misinformation and mass defacing of articles.
Wales spoke of contributors leaving as one of the main issues. "We are not replenishing our ranks".
At 90,000 active contributors by March, the goal is to attain another 5,000 by next June.
Speaking about its contributor base, the typical profile appears to be a "26-year-old geeky male", while others leave as there is a short supply of further articles to add.
But as the fifth most visited site on the web, and nearly a decade old, it is struggling to maintain its community effort with so many contributors are leaving.
Wales acknowledges the issues with Wikipedia from a founders' perspective, yet others who actively engage with the site see other barriers.
Speaking to ZDNet's senior technology editor, Jason Perlow, for which has his own Wikipedia entry, resonated similar feelings earlier with me on the phone in regards to Wikipedia's fundamental issues.
"Wikipedia appears to have a strange undefined organisational structure, or lack thereof. It seems to be run by some Mad Max-like community stuck in the middle of the desert. Contributors have to submit to many editors that follow meticulously baroque editorial guidelines, which are imposed in an inconsistent fashion."
He went on to explain that the site in its very essence is user unfriendly. Media uploads can be one of the major setbacks to new Wikipedians, partly for the complex licenses on offer and the lack of understanding around which images can be used for which purpose.
Perlow described how not only is the wiki-syntax old and outdated, along with the further complexity of the site's features and editorial processes, the community spirit could be the site's fatal flaw.
"Wikpedia is not a community conducive to creating content. The site is open to abuse. The number of times I have had to edit my own Wikipedia page because of some blatant libel, I lose count. The site is probably edited by 14-year-olds."
For users who have something they want to say or write, seem to need to be part of a niche crowd -- difficult to get in to from the word go; while others with their own entries are deterred due to the abusive edits they often have to endure.
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RE: Wikipedia losing contributors: Fatal flaw, the community editors?
The way it seems to determine whether the content is added is by an editing war, and whoever gives up first loses -- of course.
It's almost as if there needs to be another portal to allow users to vote on what should be approved like a poll to prevent such wars. Though then we will start seeing sites selling votes for such stuff.
But maybe what I am saying is no longer correct, as it has been a long time since I have paid attention to the discussion pages.
RE: Wikipedia losing contributors: Fatal flaw, the community editors?
Many wikipedia 'fans'/editors think they **own** certain pages, so usual ..
I've contributed on topics I'm learned...
It's dominated by a few with plenty of time on their hands and an agenda to advance. In the end we move on, and wikipedia is what it's become!
RE: Wikipedia losing contributors: Fatal flaw, the community editors?
I stopped contributing and donating to Wikipedia because of retarded editors.
RE: Wikipedia losing contributors: Fatal flaw, the community editors?
Absolutely dead on. Those who know how to research, document, etc., get tired of idiots with no research skills hacking things up. In several cases I took entire articles I started and set them up as independent websites to avoid all the edits.
RE: Wikipedia losing contributors: Fatal flaw, the community editors?
Exactly what I've found. I don't bother editing wikipedia anymore because nothing is applied consistently, Admins act like antisocial a-holes, and there's constant fighting over every topic no matter how irrelevant.
Plus wikipedia is designed to be hugely bureaucratic. I suppose it needs to be a bit bureaucratic, but there's a task force for everything, every article falls under several categories under the authority of many different admins, has 3 different types of ratings, etc. Not only that the noteworthiness guidelines are abused to delete articles that people disagree with. It almost seems like all you need to do to get an article deleted is question its noteworthiness, the admins are more than willing to agree to do it to anything regardless of whether they understand the topic.
When I edited wikipedia I was trying to give back. Never have I encountered such a thankless thing as editing wikipedia. You get screamed at online and attacked personally no matter what you write.
RE: Wikipedia losing contributors: Fatal flaw, the community editors?
RE: Wikipedia losing contributors: Fatal flaw, the community editors?
RE: Wikipedia losing contributors: Fatal flaw, the community editors?
I agree. The last time I contributed several paragraphs of information, it was just deleted without comment. That's enough for me.
No voting
Every once in a long while, you write a comment I agree with...
RE: Wikipedia losing contributors: Fatal flaw, the community editors?
How people could continue to believe this after seeing what their elected 'representatives' did this last month in Congress is absolutely beyond me.
mejohnsn: Oops! I missed it! What did congress do last month?
Be clear.
RE: Wikipedia losing contributors: Fatal flaw, the community editors?
And you're probably one of those nutjob a$$holes they were talking about up above.
RE: Wikipedia losing contributors: Fatal flaw, the community editors?
Wikipedia censored
RE: Wikipedia losing contributors: Fatal flaw, the community editors?
RE: Wikipedia losing contributors: Fatal flaw, the community editors?
RE: Wikipedia losing contributors: Fatal flaw, the community editors?