Windows 7 to arrive by 2009 holiday season

Windows 7 to arrive by 2009 holiday season

Summary: Expect to see Windows 7 right around this time next year.CNET reports that during a technical session at the Windows Hardware Engineering Conference in Los Angeles, Microsoft director Jim Howe gave a presentation that seemed to confirm that Windows 7 will be on PCs by next year's holiday season.

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Expect to see Windows 7 right around this time next year.

CNET reports that during a technical session at the Windows Hardware Engineering Conference in Los Angeles, Microsoft director Jim Howe gave a presentation that seemed to confirm that Windows 7 will be on PCs by next year's holiday season. (Techmeme) This little nugget isn't exactly a big surprise.

Also see: New signs point to Windows 7 debuting earlier than expected

"Definitely the holiday focus is going to be on 7," Howe told CNET following his presentation during a technical session about Velocity, a program designed to improve PC quality. It has been widely speculated, though never confirmed by Microsoft, that Windows 7 will ship around mid-year, in time to be on machines that ship for the 2009 holiday season.

Microsoft has avoided a public commitment on a shipping date for Windows 7, trying to avoid the PR hit that would come from missing a deadline. The official word from the company is that Windows will ship within three years of the January 2007 consumer release of Windows Vista. The company has said that it will ship a beta version early next year.

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  • Re: Windows 7 to arrive by 2009 holiday season

    And I was planning to install Vista around 1Q 2009. Might wait it out instead!
    Disruptor4
  • RE: Windows 7 to arrive by 2009 holiday season

    Let's see Vista was in 2006 after scraping Longhorn and WinFS. It's nice to count chickens before they hatch, isn't it?
    atari8bit
  • RE: Windows 7 to arrive by 2009 holiday season

    What a way to ruin the holiday season!!
    vegas21
  • RE: Windows 7 to arrive by 2009 holiday season

    Just another tarted up Windows XP by the look of it!!
    plug4uk
  • RE: Windows 7 to arrive by 2009 holiday season

    in my opinion i would wait for win7 for 2 years more, only if it would really become, what the user want.
    nevertheless it would be very nice to have a new windows at christmas next year! )
    cangaroo
  • RE: Who you kidding?

    What! Microsoft hasn't made a ship date since I don't know when. Microsoft makes promises and breaks them just as fast. I wouldn't expect this product until 2010 (late) or later. Windows 7 seems like a Vista clone with all the same problems. I'm starting to use Ubuntu as my main OS since Microsoft just doesn't get what the user wants. Were still waiting for all those wonderful features that Microsoft promised before the release of Vista. Until they remove Balmer and get some progressive leader it will be more of the same.
    dcowsky
    • It will ship ontime or before.

      I have to disagree with you dcowsky. Windows 7 may seem like a clone, but it isn't. It is Vista but a hole lot better.

      Based on people who are using Windows 7 Prebeta, Windows 7 is a lot faster and less annoying.

      As far as what a user wants, Microsoft is doing their best to try to please everyone with this version. Some people were unhappy that microsoft included a poor email client and wanted to use their own. Finally, they listened and removed Windows Mail.

      Also, people have been wanting a change to Paint and Calculator. Microsoft has finally delivered in Windows 7.

      UAC has been changed to being less of a pain. I honestly think that people should try Windows 7 when the public beta comes out instead of trying to bash it when they haven't even used it.

      I will say this, Windows 7 is Vista done right and then some.
      dsljay
      • Time will tell

        Thanks for the reply and maybe (?) Microsoft has learned its lesson. Until we can test drive the OS and put the Vista bad memories behind us I'll keep a weary eye. I own three Vista system and switch them to XP.

        If Microsoft would just keep their word when promoting a product it would help consumer confidence. Their leadership has been/is asleep at the wheel for a long time now and with Gates gone that was one giant step forward.
        dcowsky
      • BAD idea... VERY bad...!

        [b]UAC has been changed to being less of a pain. I honestly think that people should try Windows 7 when the public beta comes out instead of trying to bash it when they haven't even used it. [/b]

        BAD idea...! I took part in the Vista beta. I speak from sage experience. Your suggestion that people try the 7 beta is sheer insanity. There were FAR too many 'tards participating on the Vista beta who never bothered to read the instructions. Consequently, they installed Vista beta 2 on their primary production computers, attempted to do an "upgrade", all without having a backup of their data. Sometimes there were disasterous results. It was, after all, a BETA. Sometimes there were issues - crashes and the like and these guys wound up in a panic and losing their data. "What do you mean, there's no uninstall!?!?!!"

        The only way to roll it back to XP then was to insert the XP CD, blow out everything and install from scratch (or insert the restore disk that came with the computer) and restore a backup of your data. Of course, they couldn't do that because they didn't do the backup in the first place.

        Unfortunately, there are a LOT of people out there who know just enough about computers to be considered "dangerous." While I agree that trying the beta out is probably a good idea - if only to show people there's nothing to be afraid of, it can be a disaster if they don't read and follow the instructions. Especially the ones pertaining to NOT installing the beta on your one and only or primary work computer, NOT installing it without a full, complete backup, etc...

        If you know what you're doing - great. Have fun with it. But if you don't have a good grasp on it all or can't follow instructions, it's probably for the best NOT to mess with it.
        Wolfie2K3
  • RE: Windows 7 to arrive by 2009 holiday season

    I'd rather get a stocking full of coal.
    james_p
  • RE: Windows 7 to arrive by 2009 holiday season

    I love The K Desktop Environment. Which Linux OS is KDE running on here? I'm not familiar with this Windows 7 Linux distro.
    spo00n
  • MS doesn't listen anyway

    Who cares if W7 ships in a year or like usual 3 or more years. Plus never use the first version of MS anything, wait until at least the first service pack is out.

    MS has ignored many many customers all yelling for XP not Vista. MS just plowed forward and stopped sales of XP and forced Vista on everyone.

    Aren't monopolies great? Time to start looking at other options, Ubuntu?

    I plan on using my version of XP until MS pulls the plug remotely (ever heard of the Validation tool).
    Theo49
  • RE: Windows 7 to arrive by 2009 holiday season

    i think google is working on a os i think looking at this window screenshot it looks similar to previous verisons lots of graphics i think microsoft has to change the things it takes a lot of load.
    <a href="http://platingnum.com">Oracle Dba support</a>
    jhon321
  • Millions of PC users want to know...

    Millions of PC users want to know: Will I be able to *easily* migrate from XP to Windows 7, or will I experience the same pain as when I tried to migrate from XP to Vista? That was the pain that caused me to return to XP. You know, like legacy peripherals causing me grief for lack of drivers, and some of my favorite legacy apps not running well, or at all, under Vista. Not to mention Vista's "change for the sake of change" user interface.

    These Vista Ailments are part of what poisoned the Vista well.

    So far, Microsoft has only declared that migrating from Vista to Windows 7 should be painless. You know where that leaves 90% of PC users (those being non-Vista users): In the *not* painless category.

    It looks like Vista + More Glitz = Windows 7. Same pig, but now, in a snazzy party dress.
    SteveMak
    • RE: Millions of PC users want to know..

      Millions of Linux users already know they can easily migrate from current version to next version. They can also migrate easily from distro A to distro B, or C, or ...Z. People who use Microsoft are by and large happy with it and will fall in line to buy Windows 7. People who use Macs will fall in line for the next incremental $125.00 update/upgrade/watchamacallit and be happy with that. The rest of us will use something other than Mac or Windows and the world will keep turning for all of us.
      richdave
      • The mistaken belief of "falling in line"

        > People who use Microsoft are by and large
        > happy with it and will fall in line to buy
        > Windows 7...

        The past two years give us reason to question your reasoning. The reason is Vista. It showed us that the masses can, and have, rejected a new MS OS. It happened before with Windows ME.

        It may be a hard sell to XP (and older MS OS users) to tell them "You know the reasons why you condemned Vista? It's similar with Windows 7, but this time, we really, REALLY, think you'll love it enough to put up with all your migration woes. So c'mon over, and get Windows 7 today! Windows 7: Wow!"

        I could be wrong. We'll see.
        SteveMak
    • Hmm.. Maybe you should give it another look...

      [b]That was the pain that caused me to return to XP. You know, like legacy peripherals causing me grief for lack of drivers, and some of my favorite legacy apps not running well, or at all, under Vista. [/b]

      I recently installed Vista SP1 on one of my computers. Amazingly, Vista installed itself without so much as a hiccup. It found EVERY bit of hardware plugged into the motherboard and installed drivers for it. I don't believe I've ever seen ANY previous version of Windows that was able to find drivers for everything.

      Thus far, the ONLY app I've not found to be working under Vista is TWEAKUI for XP. Microsoft hasn't yet made a version for Vista (and it's not likely they will). A 3rd party app called TWEAKVI, however does most of the things I want it to do. The rest just isn't that super important to me.
      Wolfie2K3
      • Is it really worth it?

        True I haven't tried Vista with SP1. One main reason is not so much bad drivers and all that, but I don't want to upgrade most of my systems to run it with decent performance.

        What that means is usually a video and RAM upgrade, and many times a full system upgrade to be able to get similar performance as with an XP machine.

        New isn't always better, but like WinME, Microsoft has a lot of damage control to do as many got bit with the Vista roll out, and will be wary of W7.
        Theo49
  • RE: Windows 7 to arrive by 2009 holiday season

    If Microsoft does not give it to us idiots who paid good money for a bad OS ( Vista Ultimate)and then had to downgrade back to XP to get our work done, I will send microsoft a pile of horse manure.
    Its the fair thing to do, that is to send them horse sh*t for what they sold us as a "tested proven OS" Then, perhapse after a year of testing, I might be inclined to charge Microsoft for my wasted time, trying to make Vista work for me.
    There ought to be a class action suit started on the Vista Deformities, as False and misleading statements were made, defective merchandise sold, etc.
    lasryl
  • RE: Windows 7 to arrive by 2009 holiday season

    XP SP2 was XP's Win7 only they (Jim Allchin) got it right and put the customer first and made it a service pack that would benefit XP customers that needed the security improvements.

    You only need to look at the loyalty of the XP customer base to see that Jim got it right, even if there are many in MS who regret the loss of a chance to squeeze more money from customers.

    It seems that with that with Win7, the money grabbers in MS have won the day. Forget the fact that Vista has problems. We don't have to fix Vista - sell them a new OS that does everything that Vista was supposed to and we can put Vista behind us and swell the coffers.

    In the interview where Jim Allchin was commenting on the rationale for releasing XP SP2 as a service pack, he also said that Vista had started the massive task of componentisation. Clearly there wasn't enough time to complete the task before release and some two years on, that technology (MinWin etc) is finally reaching some sort of maturity.

    Vista promised a whole new world, but without mature componentisation, the plusses have been outweighed by minuses making it only ?OK?.

    Either Win7 is a radical new OS (with all the potential incompatibility issues again) or it is a refinement of Vista and so not such an unknown. Given that it claims to be faster, leaner - two of the perceived limitations of Vista - then these benefits should be given for free to Vista users in the form of SP2. Maybe they will be, but then where is the functional value of Win7 over Vista?

    I don't see how the market can sustain a new OS every 3 years. Corporates don't move that fast. MS clearly can't engineer something significantly better value in that time, so why push it?

    I'm sure the market would accept a major release every 5 years and an upgrade 2-3 years on. They might even pay for it if the upgrade isn't merely delivering on the promise of the major release. Corporates would then test the major release (SP0 and SP1) and rollout with the upgrade (SP2).

    I can't help thinking that with Win7 Microsoft are about to get wrong what they got right last time with XP SP2. They mourn the PR disaster that Vista has become. I doubt most corporates will care that MS got it wrong first time and only got it slightly better with SP1. They understand large-scale, complex systems so they probably didn't believe the MS hype in the first place. If Vista SP2 has the configurability business needs to integrate with / migrate from their XP systems then they will move, and they will not roll out a new OS where the business case has yet to be made over the proven OS (Vista).

    Surely it is less risky in the eyes of business for MS to get it right eventually than for it to admit it can fail and try again. If they can afford to, MS should get the tech they are touting as Win7 into Vista SP2, work up some business cases to show that Vista can be configured to do everything XP can do and more, and then take time to build something really mind blowing into Windows 7.
    thomasak001