Windows 7: Will it completely freeze Vista deployments?

Windows 7: Will it completely freeze Vista deployments?

Summary: If Windows 7 is Vista done better, will go beta in early 2009 and built on a foundation that's working today why wouldn't you wait for it?The case for skipping Vista and going to Windows 7 is looking better by the minute.

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If Windows 7 is Vista done better, will go beta in early 2009 and built on a foundation that's working today why wouldn't you wait for it?

The case for skipping Vista and going to Windows 7 is looking better by the minute. Ed Bott has the goods and the screenshots on Windows 7, which was demoed for the first time at Microsoft's Professional Developers Conference (PDC) (Techmeme). Mary Jo Foley notes that there will be some enterprise goodies for businesses (although you'll only get eye candy today) and that Office will be hooked up to the Web (sort of). And ultimately you may even get some Windows 7 hooks into Azure, Microsoft's cloud platform.

Also see: Microsoft Live Mesh to bridge Windows and Mac

No matter what Microsoft says about a 2010 timeline it's highly likely that Windows 7 will ship early. Windows 7 will represent the great Vista do-over and even Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer says it's ok to wait for it.

Of course, Microsoft wants you to implement Vista as a warm-up act, but it knows it has a captive audience that

  • loves XP;
  • hates Vista;
  • and is willing to wait despite the risks.

Sure there are risks that are clearly outlined by folks like Gartner:

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But you can expect technology execs to get over those concerns pretty quickly. Expect Windows 7 to get out the door more quickly as Microsoft and IT departments close the chapter on Vista.

Topics: Software, Microsoft, Operating Systems, Windows

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  • Give it a rest

    There are zero risks to waiting. Nobody upgrades OSes. You get them when you lease/buy new hardware.

    At worst, companies might have to keep their XP computers an extra year and for certain users buy them a bit more RAM to give them a bit more oomph until the next upgrade.

    What risk?
    croberts
    • We should just give him a

      dead horse and a stick.

      The continuous rehash of the same old questions is becoming, quite frankly, a bit tiresome anymore.
      GuidingLight
  • *Sigh*

    We didn't upgrade to XP until two and a bit years ago.

    I suspect we'll see Vista before we see W7.
    Sleeper Service
  • RE: Windows 7: Will it completely freeze Vista deployments?

    It already has...
    ThePrairiePrankster
  • Of course!

    I've yet to come across a company organization that has deployed it.
    GoPower
  • Disservice to readers, again.

    There are several ways that this article and the responses are a disservice to readers:
    1) I was at the Gartner keynote where Ballmer spoke. Everyone who wants to beleive that Vista is Windows ME is jumping on that one quote. What he said, in context, (and I'm paraphrasing) is that it is ok to wait for Windows 7 (of course, what else is he going to say) however, you can and should start doing your testing and validating now. The problem is that everyone reads these headlines and beleives that Windows 7 will be a great panacea to all their software and driver compatilibility issues. It will not. It will be an incremental upgrade with some tweaks and features. The kernel, driver and security models remain the same. Our organization has been testing and piloting Vista for two years and we will be rolling it out in February. Two years is about what most medium to large organizations will need to do a proper OS rollout. Anyone who thinks they are going to just jump from XP to Windows 7 is in IT dreamland. If anything, the migration issues will most likely be more acute. And the point about only rolling it our with new hardware will still apply.
    2) You show the Gartner graph without any expalnation whatsoever. The risks are detailed in the presentation that accompanied it. Without benefit of these explanations, readers cannot reach an informed conclusion.
    3) Last and least, the reader comments: It is painfully obvious that none of these commentators have had to coordinate or plan an OS upgrade at an enterprise level. If they had, they would realize the amount of effort that goes into testing and validation. The biggiest point here however, is that Moving to Vista/Windows 7 from XP is not all like moving from Windows 2K to XP. The architecture has radically changed and comprehensive testing must be done. One must also realize that as every quarter that goes by, it will be harder to get computers with supported XP drivers.
    Please understand that I am not a cheerleader for Vista. I have experienced many of the same issues as everyone else and wished that MS had done some things differently. But we have also been through proper testing and tweaking cycles and are ready for it. And we will be able to take advantage of new management and security features. Most importantly, because of all this due diligence, we will be largely Windows 7 commpatible and will have no trouble migrating when out next hardware cycle comes up in 2012.

    Yes, you don't have to upgrade to Vista. But you should start your testing NOW.
    :-)
    NIBONED
    • But the truth...

      ..doesn't get clicks in these desperate times.
      Sleeper Service
      • Sad, but true...

        The truth is that most larger IT departments already know what they need to do. The ones that will be hurt will be the smaller organizations that don't have enough resources to do the required work.
        NIBONED
  • No disrespect to the author

    I did not mean to disrespect the author in my below comment. It is actually an informative article. The "again" comment came from the fact that I've heard from too many people that do not read beyond the headlines thinking that they will just be able to jump into Windows 7 and life will be good. At the risk of repeating myself, START TESTING!
    NIBONED
  • I think the market will be more of a factor

    than people simply wanting to wait it out, either due to the (perceived) quality of Vista or due to the imminent release of Win7. Our company is making necessary budget cuts, and given the choice of delaying software and equipment upgrades a year and cutting back salaries or even laying people off, the choice is a no-brainer.
    Michael Kelly
  • I saw two full versions of Vista Premium on mark down at Walmart.

    $125

    No I have a broken arrow Vista Premium. No more Vista for me. I'll do 64bit Win 7 ; the OS X Replica. (Expense $263)
    rtirman37@...
  • XP EXTENDED

    I suspect that XP will be with us for more and more years. It is a real crime against humanity that companies like DELL are forced by MS to charge $99 for ?down-grade rights.? That $99 charge should come to a screeching halt.
    PHOTON_690
    • Perhaps this is a good business opportunity for you

      If you are so set that XP should never die then perhaps you can start up an "XP Support" company so that business can feel confident that they won't loose support for XP.
      mikefarinha
  • "VISTA'S HONOR" IS AN OXYMORON

    I have seen recent articles describing how Steve Ballmer ???defends Vista???s honor.??? That is a real oxymoron. After the Allies drove the Germans out of Paris in WWII, they rounded up all the women who had been serving as prostitutes to the German invaders and shaved their heads as a badge of disgrace.
    PHOTON_690
  • RE: Lots are still using Windows 2000

    I have seen that quite a number of banks in different countries are still using Windows 2000 in the customer services department. Tell me, what is the risk?
    laman
  • Dream on

    To all of those who think skipping Vista will prevent all those hardward/software compatability problems discovered in Vista... see subject.
    flyingace
  • RE: Windows 7: Will it completely freeze Vista deployments?

    I would expect Microsoft to provide Windows 7 at no cost to those of us that spent over $300 for Vista Ultimate............and wasted many hours trying to make Vista reliable.
    I downgraded to XP, so that I could use my new workstation without file copy lockups, Internet explorer lockups, and overall poor performance.
    Why does Micrsoft still praise what has to be "the worst OS distribution produced."

    Is there any talk of a class action suite ? I bet there are enough users that bought this crappy OS after Microsofts advertised Vista's features and benefits as a "must have" for computer users.
    And how many people bought systems preloaded with Vista, that were not capable of running vista reliably ?
    lasryl@...
  • RE: Windows 7: Will it completely freeze Vista deployments?

    AMEN!
    Milz
  • RE: Windows 7: Will it completely freeze Vista deployments?

    I'm dying to know what kind of hardware you people are using. Are you trying to keep antiquated equipment in service.

    I have been using Vista since the first month it was released. I have 3 machines runing it and one running XP Pro. I haven't touched my XP machine in a long time (I can't even remember when I touched it last). The first machine I loaded it onto was a Compaq Evo D510CMT running a P4, 2Ghz Processor with 1Gig of PC133 memeory and if I remember correctly, 64 Mb of on-board video. It originally shipped with Win2K and media to upgrade it to XP, so it obviously was designed to run XP. I have not had any problems with software or drivers with the exception of an Asian made TV tuner card which I didn't really use anyway. The second machine is a bare bones system I built with an XFX nForce 680i LT SLI MoBo, Pentium D 925, 3Gig Processor and 2 Gigs of PC6400, 800 Mhz DDR Ram (recently upgraded to 4 Gigs just for the fun of it) and an XFX GeForce 8500 GT video card. (And, by the way, I love this machine but I'm thinking of replacing the CPU with a Core 2 Duo E8400 Processor [any thoughts, will it make enough difference to justify the $175.00 expense]). The third machine is an Acer Aspire 5630 laptop, Core2Duo T5500, 1.66ghz, 2Gigs (not sure the Ram speed) with a 256Mb Intel 945 video chip.

    My point is that I have not seen any of the problems that I've been reading about. I think that Vista is a good operating system and definately a great starting point for the next gen OS. I was an IT manager in the era of Win95 up until XP was released and I was the greatest advocate of sticking to 2k when XP was released but this is 2008 and its time to move on. XP is stable, but (in my opinion) so is vista.

    I will admit, that I am no longer in the IT business so I cannot argue for the reasons that business users should upgrade to Vista, but, if you are a home user and you don't use anything that is no longer supported by the manufacturer (if it is supported, they should be writing reliable drivers), then you should try it and maybe you will be one of those people, like me, that absolutely loves Vista and cannot believe that people think it is another ME!

    My Pc's, all three of them, have never shown me the BSOD, never once frozen, have never had to have their power buttons held down to turn them off... etc.

    I think (and I could be wrong) that people have a tendency to take one bad experience and blow it out of proportion. Ballmer only said what he said to get people to stop asking if they should wait for Win7. He is a business man and he was afraid people would think he was a BS'er if he didn't!
    Milz
  • RE: Windows 7: Will it completely freeze Vista deployments?

    Well Duh! Vista is a dirty word. ME2, bloated pig with lipstick, need I go on? Windows 7 represents the dream of Longhorn, what Vista might've been.
    claymann39@...