Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8 'Apollo' OS convergence, Tango1 and Tango2, and more

Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8 'Apollo' OS convergence, Tango1 and Tango2, and more

Summary: Is Windows and Windows Phone OS going to converge to form one all-encompassing OS? With Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8, code name "Apollo," it may just happen.

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While little is officially known about Windows Phone 8, code named "Apollo," there's no shortage of unofficial (but no less credible) information across the various corners of the Web and right here on ZDNet via our very own Mary-Jo Foley. Well, to add to the growing mound of unofficial information, I have an offering comprised of a few tidbits that not only continue to validate “Apollo,” but also lend a bit more insight into it. To start, here is a quoted section from the résumé of a former Program Manager from the Windows Phone/Mobile Communications Products Group at Microsoft:
The responsibilities included program managing software update features to provide device update technology that enables end-users to update Windows Phone OS with a new set of phone features including bug fixes. In this role, I delivered a set of functional requirements specifications for the major update components to enable image updates for the next generation Windows Phone OS (aka Apollo). They are Packaging System, Imaging System, Flashing System, Update OS, Update Validator and Update Application. Also drove and tracked early investigations for the Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8 OS convergence to create Mobile SKUs.
[Click here for a screen shot] Imagine: instead of having separate operating systems for desktop/laptop/tablet and Windows phones, you would have one Windows OS containing SKUs for every Windows- and Windows Phone-capable device. Is that the message to be gleaned from "Windows 8 and Windows phone OS convergence," or does Microsoft have some other type of "convergence" in mind? Since the announcement of Windows 8 running on ARM, there has been wide speculation about the OS running on mobile phones in the future. With that in mind, a "Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8 OS convergence," as posited above, sounds like an eventuality rather than speculation. What do you think? Of all the Windows 8 predictions and expectations abounding prior to BUILD, Paul Thurrott tweeted a rather interesting one that may see some alignment with the aforementioned résumé quote: Up next, here is a very brief-though-affirming quote from the résumé of HTC's Senior Product Planner that shows HTC as being active in "Apollo" planning, themselves:
Owned the advanced planning relationship with Microsoft; drove Microsoft “Apollo” product planning discussion and led HTC cross-division feedback Identified high potential partners and technologies; initiated/participated in new partnership discussions; ensured the relevant technology integrations and strategic alignment Restructured communication channel between the planning and field communication team; greatly increased the sell-in material accuracy and increased the overall update rate by 50+% Spearheaded the 2012 Windows mobile phone product roadmap
[Click here for a screen shot] Following that mention, here is a reference to "Apollo" in a job ad currently up on Microsoft's Careers Web site. Additionally, because this comes from a job ad on Microsoft's very own Careers Web site, this job ad gives us our first official mention of "Tango1" and "Tango2" (as opposed to just "Tango"):
Launch readiness for account within region of responsibility (e.g. Mango, Tango1, Tango2, Apollo, etc.)
[Click here for a screen shot] Lastly, here's a nice little morsel from the résumé of an individual who spent the past 4-5 months interning on the Windows Phone team:
Design and development of new features for Windows Phone-8. Implemented the ‘Voice-Compose’ (STT) and the ‘Read-Aloud’ (TTS) features for native email-clients.
[Click here for a screen shot] So, all-in-all, while nothing above sets anything in stone for Windows Phone 8, what we're able to glean from these résumés and job ads is a story of significant change ahead for Windows. The details of how, exactly, "Apollo" will differentiate itself from -- yet potentially converge with -- Windows 8 is a bit fuzzy, but at least we landed a bit of "official" confirmation of "Tango1" and "Tango2" from a Microsoft Careers job ad. Make sure you check out this article of Mary-Jo Foley's where she explains the differences between the two. Will Microsoft be shedding any light on "Tango1," "Tango2," and/or "Apollo" at BUILD this week? I'm not holding my breath, personally. Either way, we're just one short day away from Microsoft spilling the beans with Windows 8, so stay tuned! -Stephen Chapman
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  • RE: Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8 'Apollo' OS convergence, Tango1 and Tango2, and more

    I see the interest level meter is pegging.
    Return_of_the_jedi
    • RE: Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8 'Apollo' OS convergence, Tango1 and Tango2, and more

      @Return_of_the_jedi
      Here is where the interest level spiked on mango fro iphone and android users. http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/12/atandt-announces-mango-lineup-new-phones-and-updates-coming-this/
      imsimsj
    • RIP Android and iPhone

      NT
      LBiege
  • There goes Microsoft again...

    Innovating the crap out of the industry. Apple only wishes they could converge the code base like MS. Ballmer is a frickin once in a generation innovator/visionary.
    Monkeypox
    • RE: Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8 'Apollo' OS convergence, Tango1 and Tango2, and more

      @Monkeypox
      This evening, I was surprised to learn that a client has an iPad.

      His tablet and his computer (Win XP) use different operating systems.

      I don't think it slowed his gait in the least.

      I get that it's impressive if Windows is unified from smartphone through desktop, if it delivers a great user experience regardless of the device, but, I have this little voice asking who cares. This isn't 1997. Synchronization of mobile devices, cross-platform, happens millions of times a day.

      Course, maybe my sarcasm detector is faulty tonight; I don't think this really is Ballmer's idea. I just don't recall seeing him say "Windows 7 was my idea," in ad, song, or on stage.
      DannyO_0x98
      • Why synchronize, when your phone is your PC

        @DannyO_0x98

        The ultimate PC, IMO, is one that fits in your pocket, but offers full access to all of your software and data, if only it needs to be connected to full-sized peripherals for easier interaction when not being stationary. There shouldn't be any kind of "synchronization" because it's all one computer. All of your data goes with you. Not virtually, on some "cloud" somewhere, but physically, on your person.
        Joe_Raby
      • RE: Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8 'Apollo' OS convergence, Tango1 and Tango2, and more

        @DannyO_0x98 [i]Course, maybe my sarcasm detector is faulty tonight; I don't think this really is Ballmer's idea.[/i]

        Yep. It's faulty.
        Badgered
    • RE: Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8 'Apollo' OS convergence, Tango1 and Tango2, and more

      @Monkeypox - I had to re-read this to understand the sarcasm since everyone knows that MR. Ballmer is an idiot...albeit, a rich idiot!
      Gr8Music
  • "SKUs" != "Operating Systems"??

    "Imagine: instead of having separate operating systems for desktop/laptop/tablet and Windows phones, you would have one Windows OS containing SKUs for every Windows- and Windows Phone-capable device."

    Wonderful. So it's instead of handling a support problem with "which operating system are you running?", it's going to be "which SKU are you running?"? And instead of a developer saying "my app isn't compatible with that operating system", it's going to be "my app isn't compatible with that SKU"?

    I'd like to see how this is going to be explained to the users...
    ldo17
  • The OS name I suggested last week seems appropriate: Encompass.

    I've predicted (guessed?), that Microsoft would be making an OS that would provide compatibility across all form factors, including smartphones, tablets, netbooks, laptops and desktops.

    I also predicted that, Microsoft would allow people to purchase Windows 8 (or whatever it will be called) licenses, whereby, a standard license accommodates one product, say a desktop/laptop, and then, for an additional small price, a second license (and a third and a fourth, etc) which would allow the OS to be used on a different gadget, say a smartphone or tablet, and with each form factor, the OS would automatically recognize the form-specific OS code to load, and would optimize that OS depending upon the features available in the gadget (desktop, laptop, netbook, tablet, smartphone).

    It that's not what will immediately come out with the first iteration of Windows 8, I'm pretty sure it will occur with future releases of the "all-encompassing" OS.
    adornoe
  • RE: Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8 'Apollo' OS convergence, Tango1 and Tango2, and more

    http://www.buildwindows.com/ It gets realy good about 3/4 of the way in. Long video but worth the time.
    imsimsj