Here is why the Nokia Lumia 800 is the first real Windows Phone

Here is why the Nokia Lumia 800 is the first real Windows Phone

Summary: Nokia Lumia 800 truly is the first Windows Phone built from the ground up to offer the best Windows Phone experience. They pulled off a great release in less than a year.

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There are a couple of us from ZDNet here at Nokia World and I recommend you check out posts from Mary Jo and Larry. Similar to the feeling that many in the press seemed to have with the iPhone 4S (and we know how that turned out) I have been reading a lot of posts and Twitter updates complaining that Nokia could have done better with Windows Phone and included a front facing camera, NFC, on-device storage, etc. Actually, I think Nokia pretty much blew the lid off the current Windows Phone lineup and agree with Stephen Elop when he stated, "The Nokia Lumia 800 is the first real Windows Phone."

There are several things to really think about before you make a decision on whether Nokia succeeded or failed here with the Lumia 800 and you may find you agree with me that they succeeded.

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Less than a year from an idea to launch

Nokia just made the announcement that they were going to put Windows Phone on their future smartphones back in February and today at the keynote we saw them boxing up retail units at the plant in Finland for availability in November (that's next week) which means they went from public launch to phones on shelves in about 9 months. That is an incredible pace since you know they have been testing them for a month or two as well. Shoot, Nokia has announced devices (not a major platform shift) and then not delivered this quickly in the past (look at the Nokia N8). This alone is quite a feat and shows me that Nokia is serious about taking Windows Phone to the next level.

Limited by Windows Phone Mango

Mango was complete several months ago so whatever Microsoft had done just after Nokia announced their switch was what Nokia had to work with. There is no NFC support in Mango so Nokia could not add it, even though they have it in the Nokia N9 and it works well. Front facing cameras are just starting to come out on new Mango hardware, but you can't use it for anything yet and like all the other front facing cameras and software no one ever seems to use it anyway.

I think it is actually pretty amazing that Nokia was able to get their Nokia Maps software and the Nokia Drive application, along with the Nokia Music application on these devices so quickly and am sure consumers will appreciate the ability to get a Spotify-like service for free on the Lumia 800.

Nokia has unique hardware

As much as I enjoy using Windows Phone, I have been complaining since day 1 about the rather lame hardware that had Samsung, HTC, and LG taking existing Android devices and slapping in Windows Phone. There was very little creativity by manufacturers of Windows Phone devices, which I personally think has had a significant impact on the lack of adoption by the new smartphone buyer.

Nokia changed that with the Nokia Lumia 800. I already told you how freaking amazing the Nokia N9 hardware is (I just ordered a blue one for myself on ebay) and Nokia was able to take it and put Windows Phone 7.5 inside. This is easily the most appealing Windows Phone device to launch and excites me for future devices. We always knew Nokia could make great hardware and now with Windows Phone inside we are going to see some amazing stuff in 2012 and beyond. Microsoft should be happy too since someone is finally taking advantage of their excellent camera software.

It's not all good for the U.S. though

While I am excited for the Lumia 800 and am please people will be able to buy it in the next few weeks, the U.S. still seems to get no real attention from Nokia. I was really hoping that the U.S. would be a part of these announcements at Nokia World, but all we know is something is coming to some carrier at some future date in 2012. Thus, there is not much for anyone in the U.S. considering a new phone before the holidays to even look at here with Nokia and Windows Phone and I imagine the Apple iPhone 4S and Galaxy Nexus will be the primary hot sellers here.

I'm sure we will see some fabulous Nokia Windows Phone hardware in the U.S. eventually, but I am sad we didn't here anything from Nokia here this week.

BTW, I am working on some other posts with hands-on experiences of the Nokia Lumia 800 and 710, but the connectivity here at Nokia World is horrid and it is a better use of my time to spend it with the devices rather than trying to beat the sites focused on posting things first.

Topics: Windows, Microsoft, Mobility, Nokia, Operating Systems, Software, Telcos

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  • RE: Here is why the Nokia Lumia 800 is the first real Windows Phone

    It is nice to see Nokia once again come out with some great hardware and this time have a modern OS to take advantage of it. I am just extremely disappointed that one again the US is left out in the cold. With the announcement in Feb I had really hoped that the US would be one of the launch countries when they did come out with WP7 devices. It seems like every other cool Nokia device in the last few years.. The US is just an afterthought. I fear that by the time they offer these (even unlocked direct) devices it will be a generation behind what even Nokia is doing. Time to look for importers.
    gshocker
    • RE: Here is why the Nokia Lumia 800 is the first real Windows Phone

      @gshocker Once again? Goodness. How long did it take Microsoft to get the WP7 marketplace to a respectable number of countries? How many countries can take advantage of the Zune Pass? Or Local Scout? What about full Bing Vision?
      Move to one of the Lumia launch countries if you want to know what it feels like to be in an afterthought market.
      AtomD
      • RE: Here is why the Nokia Lumia 800 is the first real Windows Phone

        @AtomD .. another great example of just how most Americans don't know how good they have it at home.
        logic103
      • RE: Here is why the Nokia Lumia 800 is the first real Windows Phone

        @AtomD

        Umm.. the US is dead. Look at your 401K, look at your benefits package, look at your optical benefits, look at your healthcare. Which one makes you feel reassured of the US economy? This, as you and I have voted for in one way or another is where we stand "today". There is no going back, no standing up and saying "but, but.. i voted..."... doesn't matter.. We are where we are. We are 'what' we are. Delude yourself longer if you must. Meanwhile, I will be buying gold or bullets. Same end.
        TechNickle
      • MS guaranteed Nokia would lose market share

        Any company that has done any type of deal with MS eventually disappeared or became irrelevant, examples are:

        a) VisiCalc
        b) WP
        c) Borland
        d) SCO
        e) Computer Associates
        f) Novell
        g) Yahoo

        and now

        Nokia.

        Nokia has great hardware no doubt. But with half minded software like Win 7 o 8 on a phone, forget it. Tiles are ugly period. Make them round, make them float, but NO TILES.

        Condolences to Nokia. When they announced their partnership with Windows it was clear that they were doomed. If they pull of an Apple, that will be something to be remembered.
        Uralbas
      • RE: Here is why the Nokia Lumia 800 is the first real Windows Phone

        @Uralbas

        Did somebody say Apple?
        alphaxi3
      • <a href="http://www.tran33m.net/vb/">Galaxy</a>

        @AtomD There are a good deal of apps nowadays, but yes less than others. I see more popular apps coming in by the day so they are catching up quick. Market share is market share and who cares about that when you are buying a device. Apps yes, but not marketshare. The only app I wish I could get is Yahoo's fantasy football app. Other than that I have what I want and need.
        ytaa1
    • RE: Here is why the Nokia Lumia 800 is the first real Windows Phone

      @gshocker
      Interestingly, the Nokia USA site has the 710 as "coming soon" - but no mention of the 800.
      WebSiteManager
      • RE: Here is why the Nokia Lumia 800 is the first real Windows Phone

        @WebSiteManager I think the 710 and a different 800 or 900 is going to be released to the US, and thats why there isn't a mention of the 800. The 710 is going to be an excellent budget minded (entry?) WP7, but the 800 simply won't offer enough to pursuade users or compete with the new Mango phones. I for one won't give a second look at something that is smaller than my current Focus' screen.
        spokanedj
    • RE: Here is why the Nokia Lumia 800 is the first real Windows Phone

      @gshocker . Nokia seems to not be currently confident in its US strategy. Makes sense seeing they have been out of the game here in such a long time. Taking more time for them to figure things out and focusing more energy to solidify their position/strategy worldwide is more efficient use of resources for a higher chance of success.
      logic103
    • RE: Here is why the Nokia Lumia 800 is the first real Windows Phone

      Until the US stops playing the 'fool' when it comes to sufficiently integrated phones for Zune Pass, automated backup, and fully integrated and actually 'smart' smart phones, instead of following ridiculous trends of 'lock in' provided by other mfgrs/carriers, Nokia will continue to see beyond that and provide what many (hopefully all) users will come to agree as a 'norm' for all. Nokia is just making these features stand out to spark awareness for the sleeping masses. KUDOS, Nokia, for not comprimising your customer commitment, and in many aspects, showing the unenlightened masses what they do not understand as of yet, and making it a bare minimum for your provided hardware. I for one welcome a breath of fresh air into such a stale US infrastructure of closed and non-foreward thinking architecture. This world is so much larger than the US... let loose the benefits of a world of technology into closed minds.
      TechNickle
    • RE: Here is why the Nokia Lumia 800 is the first real Windows Phone

      @gshocker Is Nokia Lumia 800 is better in performance then this phone : http://www.technologyfazer.com/apple-launched-the-iphone-4s.html Please tell me...??
      nomikhokher
    • RE: Here is why the Nokia Lumia 800 is the first real Windows Phone

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  • RE: Here is why the Nokia Lumia 800 is the first real Windows Phone

    Wp7 has to few apps and games, just 1% of the market.
    Sultansulan
    • RE: Here is why the Nokia Lumia 800 is the first real Windows Phone

      @Sultansulan
      There are a good deal of apps nowadays, but yes less than others. I see more popular apps coming in by the day so they are catching up quick. Market share is market share and who cares about that when you are buying a device. Apps yes, but not marketshare. The only app I wish I could get is Yahoo's fantasy football app. Other than that I have what I want and need.
      OhTheHumanity
      • RE: Here is why the Nokia Lumia 800 is the first real Windows Phone

        @OhTheHumanity

        You can use Fantasty Ferret for Yahoo! Fantasy Football. Works pretty good. Give it a try.
        SmoothDouglas
      • RE: Here is why the Nokia Lumia 800 is the first real Windows Phone

        @SmoothDouglas
        I will give it a try. Thanks for the advice!
        OhTheHumanity
    • RE: Here is why the Nokia Lumia 800 is the first real Windows Phone

      @Sultansulan So you are on a positive side today. Just the other day on the swedish Computer Sweden site you were trolling that there was NO games or apps for WP7.

      Glad to se you are spreading your trolling skills outside of sweden so that everyone can se how stupid swedes are. Only crying and trolling...
      brhorv
    • What is it missing?

      @Sultansulan What apps do you think are missing?
      A Gray
    • RE: Here is why the Nokia Lumia 800 is the first real Windows Phone

      @Sultansulan I found all the apps, or good equivalents, for those I used on my iPhone, when I switched last year. Since then the number of apps has flourished...
      wright_is