HTC posts response to Apple lawsuit with a walk through HTC history

HTC posts response to Apple lawsuit with a walk through HTC history

Summary: Apple filed a lawsuit against HTC back in early March and now we have a response from HTC that they obviously disagree with Apple's legal actions. The press release is a nice presentation of HTC's long history since 1997 and focuses on their innovation.

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Apple filed a lawsuit against HTC back in early March and now we have a response from HTC that they obviously disagree with Apple's legal actions. The press release is a nice presentation of HTC's long history since 1997 and focuses on their innovation. I imagine this is going to be a case we will hear about for years and hope it has no effect on HTC's innovation.

Reading the press release was like taking a walk down memory lane as they listed some of their technology firsts, including:

  • First Windows PDA (1998)
  • First Windows Phone (June 2002)
  • First 3G CDMA EVDO smartphone (October 2005)
  • First gesture-based smartphone (June 2007)
  • First Google Android smartphone (October 2008)
  • First 4G WIMAX smartphone (November 2008)

Ah yes, I remember that T-Mobile Pocket PC Phone Edition (pictured here) and think it was an incredible device for 2002. It was pretty dang fast, had a large 3.5 inch color display, and handled calls pretty well. 2010 will be interesting as we see HTC roll out more Google Android devices with their advanced Sense user interface.

Topics: Hardware, Apple, HTC, Legal, Mobile OS, Mobility, Smartphones

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  • RE: HTC posts response to Apple lawsuit with a walk through HTC history

    They lay the ground work for a "pre-existing technology" defense. It remains to be seen just what patents/technology Apple claims to have been infringed upon.
    Sagax-
    • It doesn't 'remain to be seen'...

      the specific patents were disclosed in the suit, and posted all over the
      'net.
      msalzberg
      • It DOES 'remain to be seen'!

        Apple is trying (AGAIN) to claim that 'their' copyrights are being infringed. What everyone is stating, - either ougtright or by implication, - msalzberg, is weither the judge that finally sees this suit in court will take this 'rewrite of history' seriously or just laugh the fruit-boys out of court.

        I vote on laughter...
        centauress1208
        • Not to anyone that can read.

          The patents are there for any educated person to read as is the suit.
          No_Ax_to_Grind
          • And ?????? They're just claims... not facts.

            It remains to be seen whether the patents are valid? Or whether HTCs technical innovation predates them? Or if they even cover the HTC artefacts. You're not seriously saying Apple honestly believe all their caims to be true, upholdable in court, and that we can dispense with the time and money and just convict them now. Or are you?

            Rock on HTC... and push Apple into improvements too. Multitasking, better camera, keyboard. Innovation, and catch-up always produces more innovation and benefits to us consumers.
            johnmckay
          • they are NOT just claims ...

            ... they are iCLAIMS !
            BrentRBrian
        • Did you read the OP?

          I was responding to his statement that it remained to be seen what
          patents Apple is claiming have been infringed upon.

          In their filing, Apple listed each one, therefore it doesn't remain to be
          seen which patents Apple is claiming have been infringed upon.

          Taking a quote out of context, and adding a rant to it doesn't help you
          make your point, whatever that may be.
          msalzberg
  • RE: HTC posts response to Apple lawsuit with a walk through HTC history

    <Rant>
    Apple are doing what Apple does... rewriting history... anyone remember Apple Corps (the Beatles business) and how Apple Computer just shat all over the agreement they had with the remaining Beatles and iTunes. The iPad is another... now the world of no memory fashionistas would have you believe that other companies like HP, Dell, etx might now produce "tablet" computers!!!! Microsoft has had "tablet" versions of its OS for years (as have the Linux community)... what did they run it on?... yet to be invented Windows/PC Tablet devices? This is all fucked up.

    They will be telling you that you can't eat certain kinds of fruit anymore!

    </Rant>
    JamesNelson
    • They will be telling you that you can't eat certain kinds of fruit anymore.

      Yes, they will; they've already done it with some herbs (no, that's not a cannabis reference) They'll sell you air, too...
      mdtallon
    • Worth Protecting

      Here's a no-memory Fashionista to tell you that Apple and Apple have
      settled to the satisfaction of everyone. While I'm at it, let's use this
      opportunity to remember now, before the iPad is released, just how
      successful the other tablets have been. Set aside a space in memory,
      because 5 years from now, you can set it against the success of iPad
      and see how they stack up. There was nothing comparable to the
      aggregate iPhone user experience. The app store, multitouch, OSX,
      everything. The success bears this out. Data usage on these devices is
      unmatched. It has enabled mobile web surfing by getting past a
      threshold of usability that no other vendor could. It will be up to the
      courts to decide the merits of this case. Let them. They're good at it.

      In the meantime, if you want to takes sides against the company that
      has done more than any other, to define the personal computing
      experience, thats fine. If you want to endorse a Taiwanese knockoff
      artist with no software chops whatsoever, good on you. Dell? HP?
      Whatever, you fly right at it. But buddy, don't expect me, a
      Fashionista, to read your accounting of history without laughing out
      loud.
      norgate
      • Worth Protecting

        I must apologise for my rant. I agree that Apple have defined great interfaces and their products look and feel great.

        My biggest concern is the lip service most big businesses pay to the consumer (you AND me). Big business includes Apple, M$, Adobe, GM, IBM, Ford?, etc. HTC may be a new(ish) kid on the block but they are trying to innovate, with limited success but they are trying and have come up with a couple of nice niche interface aspects which are very good. Similarly, Motorola and Nokia have been hard at work. I, as a consumer, like that... it gives me more options and a better chance of finding something that may fit in with my own idiosynchraces(?). We are now forced to conform. We used to build our own quirky web sites years ago and tried to define our own interfaces and personalities... now we are all the same forced into conforming with Facebook, Google, Yahoo, Apple, M$... yes even ZDNET!

        Maybe I've just been having a bad day and someone had to get it in the neck... again sorry and please accept my apologies.

        Best regards
        James
        JamesNelson
      • Worth Protecting ...YES

        I must apologise for my previous rant. I agree that Apple have defined great interfaces and their products look and feel great.

        My biggest concern is the lip service most big businesses pay to the consumer (you AND me). Big business includes Apple, M$, Adobe, GM, IBM, Ford?, etc. HTC may be a new(ish) kid on the block but they are trying to innovate, with limited success but they are trying and have come up with a couple of nice niche interface aspects which are very good. Similarly, Motorola and Nokia have been hard at work. I, as a consumer, like that... it gives me more options and a better chance of finding something that may fit in with my own idiosynchraces(?). We are now forced to conform. We used to build our own quirky web sites years ago and tried to define our own interfaces and personalities... now we are all the same forced into conforming with Facebook, Google, Yahoo, Apple, M$... yes even ZDNET!

        Maybe I've just been having a bad day and someone had to get it in the neck... again sorry and please accept my apologies.

        Best regards
        James
        JamesNelson
      • I guess I just don't understand how, the amount of

        success a product has, has got anything to do with who came up with it 1st. Isn't that success, what the patent laws are there to protect against.

        I get tired of Apple fanboys saying no other company can market what Apple chooses to market. Why is it all right for Apple to sue HTC for using Apple technology before Apple had any idea it even existed? Apple has always been able to get things done different because they are better than other companies. I say throw the book at them. Let HTC end up with Apple because they infringed on HTC's devices.
        mjolnar
  • RE: HTC posts response to Apple lawsuit with a walk through HTC history

    Even though we live in a relatively free market, when you try to compete with the leaders, expect backlash. Apple knows they are on top of the phone market, so they are trying to make a case based on brand equity. HTC doesn't stand a chance. I would follow http://www.weltbranding.com/blog/ advice; which basically tells other companies to do their own thing.
    steve850
  • Patent Drama

    Next we'll see that Apple has a patent on how to use your
    forefinger to push a home button.
    Olderdan
    • Multitouch patent myth

      Being that it is a myth that Apple has ANY patents on MultiTouch, I fail to
      see your point.
      SpiritusInMachina
  • RE: HTC posts response to Apple lawsuit with a walk through HTC history

    What remains to be seen is how Apple plans on maintaining that they somehow came up with smart phone technology...

    I hope they lose their patents over this, once it's demonstrated that they DID NOT invent the smart phone, nor touch screens, nor gestures, nor anything else, besides a pretty OS that packaged already-existing technology into a decent phone...
    wrenchmonkey
    • Clueless

      Seeing as Apple has never claimed they have a patent on smart phones,
      touch screens, gestures, or even multitouch, I fail to see your point. Do
      you even have one? Since you CLEARLY have no clue about patent law in
      general, or Apple's patent portfolio in specific, why are you so quick to
      post, since it only serves to highlight your total lack of a clue?
      SpiritusInMachina
  • RE: HTC posts response to Apple lawsuit with a walk through HTC history

    Too bad soft patents hadn't been invented 120 years ago,
    we would only have one manufacturer of automobiles, ford.
    can't you see the patent for "...using a combustible
    material to produce forward motion of a vehicle for the
    purpose of transportation."

    it's not apple's fault, write a letter to your
    congressman.
    brokndodge9
    • apple has patents but...

      most on the list i read should hold because they are not new or not patentable.

      go the the EU where half the patents they claim wouldnt hold for 2 seconds. the US is the only place you can get soft patents and business method patents
      blindguyinanorgy