Nokia Lumia 800 and N9; same form factor, different audience

Nokia Lumia 800 and N9; same form factor, different audience

Summary: The Lumia 800 is available outside the U.S., but there are several of us here that are getting the chance to use them and test them out.

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I tested out the Nokia N9 MeeGo device a few weeks ago and liked it so much I bought my own cyan (blue) one from an Australian seller on ebay. The hardware is fantastic (just read every online review) and thus I was pleased to see Nokia use virtually the same hardware in the Nokia Lumia 800 that I just received for evaluation for a few weeks. You can check out several photos of the N9 and Lumia 800 in my image gallery along with a hands-on video and some initial thoughts below.


Image Gallery: Check out some photos of the Nokia N9 and Lumia 800 devices. Image Gallery: Lumia 800 retail box Image Gallery: Nokia N9 and Lumia 800

In the box and first impressions

The Nokia Lumia 800 comes in the same retail box as the Nokia N9 with the Lumia 800, USB cable, USB A/C charger, stereo headset, case, and Quick Start Guide. The case/cover matches the color of the device, black in this case, and offers some protection of the hardware. Then again, it is so sleek that it is tough to wrap it in anything.

It's great to see so many people finally understanding how good Windows Phone can be now that they have the Lumia 800 in hand. The hardware is top notch and extremely pocketable and caressable.

Specifications

Specifications for the Nokia Lumia 800 include the following:

  • Windows Phone 7.5 operating system
  • Quad-band 3G radio and quad-band GSM radio (no support for T-Mobile USA)
  • 1.4 GHz Qualcomm processor
  • 3.7 inch 800x480 pixels AMOLED display
  • Antiglare polarizer and Gorilla Glass integration
  • Preinstalled 16GB internal storage
  • 512 MB RAM
  • 8 megapixel camera with dual-LED flash and Carl Zeiss optics
  • Proximity sensor, light sensor and digital compass
  • Integrated A-GPS
  • Wi-Fi (802.11 b/g/n)
  • Bluetooth 2.1
  • 3.5 mm headset jack
  • 1450 mAh lithium-ion battery
  • Dimensions: 116.5 x 61.2 x 12.1 mm and 142 grams

The differences between the Lumia 800 and Nokia N9 include the processor (1.4 GHz vs 1 GHz), screen size (3.7 vs 3.9 inches), RAM (512 MB vs 1 GB), NFC (not included in the Lumia 800), wireless radios (Lumia 800 is quad-band and N9 is pentaband), internal storage (Lumia 800 is 16GB only while N9 has a 64GB option), and front facing camera (Lumia 800 doesn't have one). So as you can see the N9 best the Lumia 800 in most every specification difference.

Walk around the hardware

The Nokia Lumia 800 external hardware is the same as the N9 with the exception of the camera capture button, touch capacitive buttons (reduces the viewable display size), and front facing camera. They both have the door for the microUSB port and the funky slider tray for the microSIM card.

Quick thoughts on the software and performance

As regular readers know, I am a major Windows Phone fan and Mango flies on the Lumia 800. I definitely see a difference in going from a 4.3 inch display down to a 3.7 inch display though and am not sure I could live with it full time. I think I would rather see the 900 series of Nokia Windows Phone devices that are rumored to have a 4.3 inch display.

Nokia includes their Nokia Maps software with Nokia Drive on the Lumia 800 and it offers an excellent navigation experience. The Nokia Music found on the Lumia 800 in the U.S. does not include the Mix experience that I detailed sets it apart from other Windows Phone devices. Thus, you will not find a free music experience and I imagine it has to do with the fact that U.S. consumers get a full Zune experience. I am not sure if it will be this way in 2012 when we officially get Nokia WP device, but that remains to be seen.

Can I get either the Lumia 800 or N9?

The Nokia N9 is not officially coming to the U.S. from Nokia, but you can find them on ebay, Amazon, and through other importers. The Nokia N9 is a pentaband device so it will work with 3G on T-Mobile and AT&T. The Nokia Lumia 800 is available outside the U.S. and does not support 3G data on T-Mobile.

These are excellent devices for the smartphone enthusiast, but the average consumer will want to wait until 2012 when Nokia announces their U.S. devices.

Here is why the N9 is for me

After using the Lumia 800 for a day, I am happy to say that it makes my Nokia N9 purchase even more valid and justifiable. Here is why I personally prefer the N9 over the Lumia 800 for use in the U.S. on T-Mobile:

  • 3G data on T-Mobile, AT&T, and around the world (a true Nokia world phone)
  • Double tap to turn on display without needing to ever press the on/off button
  • Multi-tasking beast where I have had over 27 apps running at once with a slick display to switch between them
  • Time shown on black screen when locked (sometimes the simple things mean a lot)
  • Awesome swipe to go to a notification (starting to get bothered by no real meaningful notifications in Windows Phone)
  • Integrated services and ability to interact with them (WP has many of these too, but MeeGo still does it better)
  • Swype keyboard is coming soon, along with other great updates not delayed by carriers
  • Being part of a very enthusiastic community of a device that the community refuses to let die out

Topics: Software, Hardware, Mobility, Nokia, Operating Systems, Windows

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  • RE: Nokia Lumia 800 and N9; same form factor, different audience

    Great article, Matthew. I always appreciate your insight and you always point out the valuable pieces, such as "no support for T-Mobile 3G". Makes my decision easy.
    macdea
  • Announcement in 2012?

    Has Nokia said that they will only announce in 2012, or did they say that the devices will come in 2012? I was hoping for an announcement this year.
    WebSiteManager
    • RE: Nokia Lumia 800 and N9; same form factor, different audience

      @WebSiteManager <br>Nokia Lumia 800 on pre-order now. Delivery in a week or two in the UK.<br><br><a href="http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/mobiles/mobile-phones/NOKIA-LUMIA-800/MONTHLY" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/mobiles/mobile-phones/NOKIA-LUMIA-800/MONTHLY</a>
      neil.postlethwaite
    • Nokia has said either...

      @WebSiteManager : but the press bets that the Lumia announcements were all the company will show on 2011 due to ODM constraints (it is believe that the "Nova" will be outsource by Compal and they could not deliver on a Q4 '11 timeframe)...

      BTW. The article sheds light on an issue we have stated time and time again. The fancy front end of Windows Phone (7 or 7.5) might be evolved, but the underlying OS is pure crap.

      That the reason for no front camera, no NFC, no penta band, no microSD higher than 16Gb, etc. etc.

      The Silverlight for Embedded people can do marvels on their sandbox (aka the actual Windows Phone UI), but they can do diddle squat if the OS has no driver for these stuff.

      On the other hand, MeeGo, webOS and Android, being based on a high stable Linux kernel can do things that WP7(.5) will never imagine possible, like webtop support, dual screen hdmi, hot swap microSD, NFC file transfer (as in Ice Cream Sandwich), full printer support, Retina displays, etc. etc.

      That's one of the advantages that a group of geeks trying to copy Windows gave to the Linux smartphones.
      cosuna
  • OK, Matt. Don't push me, because if you do....

    ....I'll buy an N9.
    I am warning you! :/
    Dietrich T. Schmitz *Your
    • You will love it!

      @Dietrich T. Schmitz The N9 may be the best Nokia I have ever owned. The hardware is incredible, the camera holds its own, and the OS is a breath of fresh air and a step up from Maemo that I liked as well.
      palmsolo (aka Matthew Miller)
  • RE: Nokia Lumia 800 and N9; same form factor, different audience

    Great article!
    I love my N9 even more as well!
    kumarakam@...
  • RE: Nokia Lumia 800 and N9; same form factor, different audience

    - 16Gb of memory is dumb<br>- Droipping the Penta-band radio is equally stupid<br><br>Best Nokia for ages, is you discount the N9 Meego, but sadly it's too little to late in the world of iPhone 4S, Samsung Galaxy S2 and Samsung Nexus S.<br><br>Nokia needed to junk Symbian about 4 years ago, but dropped the ball on this one. Though at least they have gotten there finally, whereas the hapless RIM are still talking up BBX with no dates in the diary.
    neil.postlethwaite
    • RE: Nokia Lumia 800 and N9; same form factor, different audience

      @neil.postlethwaite@... They dropped penta-band radio for the same reason they dropped NFC: Windows Phone doesn't support it. Of course, no OS actually needs to support for different frequencies, but they do need to support different chipsets. There are only few with penta-band radio, and Windows Phone doesn't support any one of them.
      Imago_Dei
  • In A Nutshell ...

    ... the Linux-based N9 is for those who want a better phone, while the 800 is for those who want Windows.
    ldo17
  • RE: Nokia Lumia 800 and N9; same form factor, different audience

    Yet another reason why the N9 is the true savior for Nokia :)!

    Take note Nokia board of directors; Elop is not on your side!
    rafael.roque
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  • RE: Nokia Lumia 800 and N9; same form factor, different audience

    I definitely agree, they both look the same, they even have close resemblance to nokia n8
    cheapsmartphonesforsale
  • RE: Nokia Lumia 800 and N9; same form factor, different audience

    I'm in South Africa. Been waiting for the N9 and is VERY happy to own one. They are very popular over here and are flying out the stores.
    Big disappointment is that the phone does not come with an instant messaging app. Had Whatsapp on my N97 and loved it and cannot live without it. Will we get a Meego version of this great app? Or of Nimbuzz?
    Hope you have good news for me.
    Always enjoy your articles and find them extremely informative and useful. Keep up the good work.
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