Palm Pre Calendar application is weak
Summary: Palm was the leader for managing your PIM data (calendar, contacts, tasks) and many people today still use Palm devices that are not phone-enabled just for these functions. Given that PIM was a strong suit of the Palm branding, I am quite surprised with some of the limiting functionality in the integrated PIM apps found on the Pre in WebOS. Palm has had quite some time to optimize their own integrated PIM suite and left out several parts that current Palm OS owners have come to rely on.
Palm was the leader for managing your PIM data (calendar, contacts, tasks) and many people today still use Palm devices that are not phone-enabled just for these functions. Given that PIM was a strong suit of the Palm branding, I am quite surprised with some of the limiting functionality in the integrated PIM apps found on the Pre in WebOS. Palm has had quite some time to optimize their own integrated PIM suite and left out several parts that current Palm OS owners have come to rely on.
Calendar: IMHO, the Calendar application on the Pre is one of the weakest aspects of the device and I am very disappointed with it. While it works with the Synergy technology to show you several of your calendars (Google, Exchange, and Facebook) where each data source is color-coded, that is about as far as it goes for cool, useful features. You can perform a single one-way transfer of your calendar, contacts, tasks, and memos from Outlook, Palm Desktop, or iCal, but then there is no further capability to sync back with these applications. You will need to get a hosted Exchange account or sync with other 3rd party solutions to Google Calendar to sync your calendar to anything.
I do have an Exchange server at work so I do get full calendar syncing on the Pre. However, I like to create private appointments for my personal calendar so co-workers don't see all the activities my family has planned and other appointments they do not need to see. On the Palm OS, and other mobile operating systems, this is supported when you create an appointment. This is not supported on the Pre though so every appointment you create via your Exchange account is viewable by others on your server.
When you create an appointment you can add a name, place, time, recurrence, set a reminder, and add notes. There is also no category support in the calendar application. You cannot create meetings with people on your Exchange server, but you can accept or reject appointments sent to you (much like the iPhone).
Palm also showed off the cool accordian-style look and feel to the Calendar, but this only appears if you have more than 3 hours between appointments. You can spoof the calendar and make it much more useful if you create daily recurring appointments to start and end your day (thanks to a reader on jkOnTheRun for this handy tip).
There are daily, week, and month views in the Calendar, but no Agenda view that shows you just your appointments for the next few days like we see on many devices. The week and month views are also basically useless in that neither actually shows you any details and just shows bars if something is scheduled. You have to always go into the daily view to see what is going on for that day. I would like to see a tap and hold, tap, or small preview window to at least show the appointment name and time (again like what we see on other mobile devices).
Contacts: The Contacts application is full featured with several fields available for entering data for your contacts, including custom ringtones for people, multiple email, IM, and URL fields for people, The only piece I do not see in Contacts is category support, which may be pretty major for those who want to keep business and personal contacts completely separate.
Tasks: Tasks are a pretty basic function to begin with and the Pre Tasks application seems just fine with fields for name, priority, due date, and notes. Again, categories does not seem to be supported.
I think the Calendar application needs some work to be even at least as good as it is on the Palm OS right now. Are there other aspects of the PIM suite you are concerned about on the Pre?
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Using Google makes it better
I use Google for personal events or events in various "categories" (i.e. different calendars), and use the Exchange account for work. I can then sync everything from the Pre to the cloud, and personal items don't appear to work colleagues.
If I wanted to sync everything into one calendar (I don't), I could use various desktop programs to sync Outlook with my Google calendar.
It does mean I can't do EVERYTHING in Outlook, and will be more of an issue people without access to Google at work. For a first start though, I'd rate the calendar a "B".
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good? This is much better than the Pearl or the iPhone.
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Don't get me wrong: I'm a big Palm fan and intend to get the Pre as soon as possible. But the Palm's stock PIM apps have always been pretty basic. Palm only [i]really[/i] stepped up their game when 3rd party developers started pumping out good calendar apps (e.g., Agendus and DateBk).
From what I've read, Agendus will start working on a port once the SDK is released. I'm not sure about DateBk.
Anyway, the point is that for most of its history, Palm has relied on third parties for the more sophisticated PIM applications. They've mainly been good at mastering the basics.
Having said that, I [i]am[/i] somewhat surprised you can't even categorize your calendar or memos. Palms have always had that, that I can remember...
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and the worst part is that the tasks app doesn't sync with anything at all. terrible!
Tasks do support "categories" through task lists
One gripe though: When assigning the date beyond "Today," "Tomorrow," etc., it doesn't pull up a mini-calendar to allow you to select the date. You have a slot machine type interface to select the month, day, and year. That's all great if you know the date of the last Saturday of July, as an example. That, to me, is a HUGE ding on the app. Having the calendar with the current day highlighted is a MUST.
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Finally someone did this NEEDED review
Thanks,
-Ben
Pre's exchange compatibility
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years (all non-phone devices, I know, how old school of me!)
because the time management functions of the PalmOS just
worked so well for me, and I am a time management junkie!
I'm also disappointed by the time management capacity of
the Pre and honestly of all other SmartPhones. I have been
wanting to get a Pre but really I don't know if I can sacrifice
time management for wifi, Synergy and other coolness--and
really, why should I?
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Can`t even mark an event privat or invite people from you contact list to a meeting. For now, I consider it as good as an iPhone but still years behind my Blackberry Curve.
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Other than this complaint I love this phone and would hate to give it up because of the calendar. Thank you!
Agree, calenday application is week.