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Unlike with AT&T, the Verizon iPhone isn't the network's best smartphone

By | January 11, 2011, 12:47pm PST

Summary: Apple enters the Verizon market in a different position than when they were on AT&T with Verizon having a rock star existing and future lineup of Android devices. While the masses will buy the new iPhone, what decisions will the smartphone fans make on Verizon.

Last year when the iPhone 4 was announced for AT&T, it was clearly the best smartphone on the AT&T network with some BlackBerry devices, old Windows Mobile 6.5 devices, and rather lame Android devices available for customers to consider. The story is quite different on Verizon Wireless though where the iPhone 4 won’t even be the best smartphone available on the nation’s largest network. In fact, there will be several Android devices, Windows Phone 7 devices, and maybe even a webOS device, launching in the first half of 2011 that will far exceed the features and functionality of the iPhone 4. Without a doubt though, the iPhone 4 on Verizon Wireless will still sell millions to the masses who are moving from feature phones and those locked into the Apple ecosystem.

Other devices available now

Current competition for the iPhone 4 on Verizon includes the Motorola Droid X, Motorola Droid 2, HTC Droid Incredible, Motorola Droid Pro, and Samsung Fascinate. There are plenty of other BlackBerry and Android devices too, but these five are the higher end models that can compete with the iPhone 4 right now. It will be interesting to see if owners of these smartphone switch over to the iPhone 4 or if they stick with their Android device and wait to see what Apple brings out for a new generation product.

Verizon devices announced, coming in first half of 2011

While the five mentioned above can compete well with the iPhone 4, there were a few other devices already announced last week at CES that in nearly all respects beat the iPhone 4. Don’t forget we still have Mobile World Congress coming up when manufacturers like HTC, Samsung, and Sony Ericsson may reveal even more new smartphones that will eventually launch on Verizon.

The new devices we know that are coming to Verizon that include support for the 4G LTE network include the HTC Thunderbolt, Motorola Droid Bionic, LG Revolution, and Samsung 4G LTE (no official name yet). These devices all run Android 2.2, with likely upgrade or launch with Android 2.3, have 4.3 inch displays, and dual-core processors (the Droid Bionic even has the NVIDI Tegra 2 chip). Hard core smartphone geeks likely won’t even consider the iPhone 4 with these four new powerful smartphones launching in the next few months, especially if they get a taste of the 4G LTE speeds like what I am seeing with the LTE USB stick I am testing out.

I think it is great news that the iPhone is rolling out on another carrier and like someone mentioned on Twitter it could have been Apple’s strategy to make this happen sooner rather than later to try to stem the tide of the Android wave. It may have this effect to some degree, but with these extremely powerful and fast Android devices launching soon I don’t think they will sell as many as they would have if they had the Verizon iPhone last year before Android took off at such a fast pace.

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Matthew Miller started using a mobile devices in 1997 and has been writing news, reviews, and opinion pieces ever since. He is a co-host with GigaOM's Kevin Tofel on the MobileTechRoundup podcast and an author of three Wiley Companion series books. Matthew started using mobile devices with a US Robotics Pilot 1000 and has owned over 125 different devices running Palm, Linux, Symbian, Newton, BlackBerry, iOS, Android, webOS, Windows Mobile, and Windows Phone operating systems. His current collection includes an HTC Radar 4G, Dell Venue Pro, Apple iPad 2, HTC Flyer, Samsung Galaxy Nexus, Nokia N9, Apple iPhone 4S, MacBook Pro, and many more, along with tons of accessories and classic devices like the Apple Newton MessagePad 2100 and Sony CLIE UX50. Matthew can be found on various discussion forums under the user name of "palmsolo".
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RE: Unlike with AT&T, the Verizon iPhone isn't the network's best smartphone
tomlin21-24319035676893835085146735905770 11th Oct
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Prepaid iPhone on Verizon?
Tiggster 11th Jan 2011
Anyone heard if the Verizon iPhone will be available for prepaid customers?
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iPhone 4 **is** the best smartphone on Verison:
DeRSSS Updated - 11th Jan 2011
iPhone 4 has the best resolution screen, best smartphone-mode battery life, best photos besides specialized cameraphones, best antenna reception (according to AnandTech, iPhone 4 keeps working connection with 5-8 dB = 7-9 times weaker signal comparing to phones with the usual internal antenna design; yes, antenna design is not about death-grip, which is usually irrelevant), the thinnest, with smoother OS, with the biggest software library, with the biggest media library, with AirTunes possibility, with no non-removable crapware/bloatware installed by providers, with no UI crooked by them.

iPhone 4 does not feel like cheapo plastic junk and it does not feel like a videocassette, comparing to some of "best" Android phones.

As to 4G/LTE, it will be very pricy and spotty in coming three years, so for most people it is irrelevant. And even for those people who live in these 38 test cities of LTE/4G, there are countless Wi-Fi hotspots which much faster than LTE/4G anyway and which are free of charge . Practically, LTE/4G is rarely needed as there are Wi-Fi at home, at work, at cafe and restaurants. Only occasional longer trips might need LTE/4G for speedy internet, but longer trips most often are done towards outside of the city -- where LTE/4G is already out of range for the nearest two-three years. Quite pointless to disregard iPhone 4 for so small practical use of LTE/4G which could be accessible now.

As to newer phones being "fast" and "powerful", it is no more than marketing stunt now since no major software developer is going to program applications that are going to actually need these two cores until Apple might release iPhone 5 this summer with two cores. There is simply no practical use for two cores currently, it is just marketing stunt.
@denisrs are you sure you are not from Apple's marketing department?
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@pupkin: and my name is Phillip Schiller ( Google Apple it), to be honest.
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Hey...can your iPhone...
SonofaSailor 11th Jan 2011
@denisrs

delete a single call from the phone log without having to delete the entire log (and without jailbreaking)? ya know, since it's got PHONE in the damned name???

I've got a $30 Nokia gophone that can do this.

Get off the Kool Aid.

Oh, and " ...best photos besides specialized cameraphones,...Really? WTF kind of point is that? That's like saying Microsoft has the highest stock price of any tech company, besides those companies whose stock price is higher than Microsoft's.
@denisrs

I guess you've not used one. The iPhone is a poor second place to current Android offerings. Sorry to burst your fanboy bubble.

The Android kernel does support two cores already.
@denisrs

WP7 is simply better than the iPhone. The phones are lighter, slimmer and better designed and use a modern UI unlike iPhone's antique offering.

Better still I don't need an app to let me use a camera button, I actually have one wink
@tonymcs
"WP7 is simply better than the iPhone.?
Windows 7 series phone OS is not an actual phone, but an os for a phone. At least if you?re going to interject an opinion (after all that is what you are interjecting), try and keep the comparisons honest.

"The phones are lighter, slimmer and better designed and use a modern UI unlike iPhone's antique offering.?

This is your opinion, which you are entitled to. There are those that think the tiles are clumsy looking. I personally do not have a dog in this fight, so I will have to spend time with both and make my own decision. I currently have an iPod Touch, so I already have plenty of apps. This may be a factor if I had to choose, but I do not thick that I can honestly say that one UI is better than the other. Now when you tall out the UI in Office, I do have an opinion. I hate the ?ribbon? as I learned how to use the menu system a long time ago. I can work faster using Office 2003 rather than Office 2007.

From a hardware perspective, things are subjective at best. If one phone feels more solid than the others I would choose that one. I prefer something that doesn?t feel like cheap junk (excessive plastic), over one that feels like metal. Yes there are pluses and minuses to each, but that will vary depending on the user.

At the risk of being poo pooed for usage a car analogy. It is like comparing the Jeep Grand Cherokee, and the Toyota 4Runner. Having a reviewer complain that the 4Runner is too truck like, because it uses a Body-on-frame contraction, rather than the Uni-body, is only a personal opinion. Personally I would rather have a truck like vehicle as compared to a large station wagon. But again that is a personal thing. Your thought may be different, but that is why there is the options we have today. The world would suck, if there was only one vehicle, computer, phone, OS, etc.
@denisrs
So, until Apple does it, it's just a marketing stunt?
@denisrs

Phones like the Droid X and Incredible are dog slow in UI responsiveness compared to a first gen iPhone.

Sorry to burst your bubble.
@denisrs
Good rebuttal, I couldn't agree more. iPhone might not be the best in certain areas, but it's the best overall. Let's be real, Apple isn't the one playing catch up. It will be fun to see the next iteration.
@denisrs

Just the fact it's not tainted by Verizon's crapware makes all the difference for me.
@denisrs Despite the fact that I don't agree with you at all, what on earth does this have to do with the post you replied to?
@denisrs Some major exaggerating there. Droid phone are not plastic cheap phones. My Droid phone is solid.

The only reason why Apple have more apps is because they've been out longer than Droid. In Droid's few years on the market, their apps grew more than Apple's in their early years and they will surpass Apple's apps due to them being an open source. Bloated apps are those that chose bloated apps. Let's not blame Droid for users downloading them.

Antenna death grip my @ss. If that were the case, Steve wouldn't have said in a indirect way, we screwed up. He said, "We're not perfect." Lol. And the designer of that antenna stepped down. Obvious clues that it was a bad design. How's that rubber buffer working? :O)

Wi-Fi. Irrelevant point when we're talking about being able to use it on the phone's network. 4G LTE is just speculation. We don't know what the outcome will be like. Sounds more like wishful thinking and a inferior superior complex going on in your post. I like Apple products, but let's not excuse some of their issues by scapegoating behind Droid. Smh.
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magallanes 12th Jan 2011
@denisrs }

nuff said.
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@denisrs Thats why when you touch the sides of the phone it has no signal, when you talk on the phone the proximity sensor malfunctions, when you connect a bluetooth headset it repeatedly connects and disconnects, when you put music or videos on it u have to convert it to apple's formats, when u drop it on the floor 1 time it breaks into a million pieces, when u recharge it a ton of times after a year u have to bring it to a store to get the battery changed, when you run out of space you have to buy a different phone since there are no upgrades for storage space, and when you want to run multiple apps at one time they have to be specifically coded to support multitasking.
Ya sounds like the best phone by far. Especially when there are Android phones with bigger screens that CAN ACTUALLY USE THEM, output to HDMI, share wifi to devices (Verizon one can do this), install any apps you want and read any formats you want, have replaceable batteries, expandable storage, easy connectivity due to standardized ports, more free apps, better overall hardware, and overall lower TCO's.
@denisrs
Have to disagree on the two cores thing. I am frequently navigating with Google maps, playing music, and offering a Wi-Fi hostspot (so the kids can surf the web) off of my Incredible as we are going down the road. I understand that iPhone users don't need multitasking, but Android folk have come to rely on it. I guess we just like determining our own destiny.
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Except it's not.
geolemon 12th Jan 2011
@denisrs Anandtech may measure antenna reception, but the fact of the matter is - the iPhone drops calls. You can't blame it on the network in my area, it's rock solid on all other phones (I've had AT&T for 12 years here), and our work iPhones drop calls. So great antenna or not... that's just one link in the chain.

It doesn't have "the best" screen any longer, and anyone who plays king of the hill is always knocked off shortly. Both WinMo7 phones and new Android phones have some incredible displays.

Just like they were with 3G, Apple will be late to the game. Analysts are even predicting this next iPhone won't have it. You are actually arguing that the iPhone is a better phone because it doesn't have this, where it's competitors will?

And the use of dual cores isn't necessarily for answering the need of ******** apps - apps like that would suck...
It is for multitasking, keeping the phone operating smoothly while other things are running - and in some (most?) cases, for saving battery - having processors of two different speeds, idling with the slower processor, employing the faster one only on an on-demand basis.
iPhone has none of this technology.

And it isn't a marketing stunt - the OS can either use it, or it can't. Just like Windows, able to use the dual cores and assign processors to tasks. It's not dependent on "an app" or the developer to do that. It's up to the OS to handle that.

And the fact of the matter is, where once Apple caused a paradigm shift, since then there's been only slow evolution... and Apple is getting passed by progress as that paradigm continues to evolve.

Even the OS itself - I wouldn't disagree with you that it's smooth - unless you are trying to run iOS4 on a 3G or 3GS.

And what do you get? An interface that's the equivalent of Android's App Drawer. Sure, you can launch apps from the app drawer - but Android also provides you with multiple desktops to lay out icons and widgets to suit your actual personal lifestyle/needs. With iPhone you have none of the above.
Heck, you can't even set a custom ringtone for your text messages on an iPhone - even if you jailbreak it (and already, it's undesirable to have to jailbreak your iPhone to really unlock features that are basic/standard in Android). And heck - even web browsing. iPhone doesn't do flash - still - and won't, because of Apple (cough steve jobs cough) stubborness.

When you combine that with better/faster hardware that also includes memory card expansion and USB ports, HDMI ports, DLNA wireless video... you just keep building a list of things that the iPhone can't do, and won't do.
@denisrs
lots of idiots disagree with you, but that doesn't change the facts. The Androids and Win7 phones are cheap copies of the iPhone. Funny how they call Apple crazy and run down their products (iPod, iPhone, iPad), but then as soon as someone else makes a cheap copy, they are all over it. Funny how the market shoots down everyone else's attempt to do these things because they make crap, but Apple succeeds big; then everyone copies what Apple does and starts spewing their superiority for being able to copy Apple.
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@denisrs
You are the dumbest poster I've ever heard of.
@denisrs
OK, you can cash your check from the Apple-Kiddies protection society.
From what I saw at CES last week the iphone 4 is way back in the pack. They did lead the pack for a while but that time is clearly over.
The new droid phones look awsome and finally Microsoft has the right idea with a very promising smartphone OS.
@denisrs It will be interesting to see if Verizon allows replacement insurance on their iphones. At&t's inflexibility forced me to switch to verizon/droid after paying full bore replacement for a couple of iphones. I've been suffering along almost a year on my Droid 1 and have nearly thrown it out the window several times. Terrible device.
@denisrs makes a great point. There are free wifi hotspots all over the place. So why the hell are we forced to buy data plans?
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@denisrs

Android has a far better built-in GPS app (I think it's even better than TomTom/Garmin units) and its voice command system is better developed, but iPhone wins overall, IMO.

iPhone/iTunes makes it easier to use and sync music and video (two of my biggest use cases), the app store is more robust, there's much better accessory support, and it's so easy to use, a two-year old can handle it (my toddlers use them all the time for kids' games).
@denisrs: Oh, please.

I really can't believe the people who spout ignorant crap about android o/s phones. The higher end ones put the iphone to shame. Android still holds its own worldwide, where it competes with the iphone, and outsells it.
android's capabilities far outshine I/os, and please, being honest its apple playing catch up..notifications? Multitasking? Widget support? Dual core support? docking into a desktop or laptop? Hdmi out support? A screen that lets you actually read because its not small? Options in different hardware? Music videos playing for certain incoming calls? video chat over 3g? Live wallpaper? All day battery life?
Please.

There are SO many advantages over the iPhone; the iPhone's video editing software is great, etc, but in capability and growth, Android has already whupped the iO/S butt.

To demonstrate iphone freaks' silliness: "multitasking just slows the phone down; we don't need it" When it came out on iPhone 4, "OMG! We have multitasking! YAY!"

"Notications aren't all that great; we don't need them." When a half-baked notification system was leaked on the FOURTH GENERATION iPhone (4 years to have notifications????) "OMG! We have halfbaked notifications now! YAY!"

And now, ladies and gentleman..."dual cores are just a gimmick...until Apple puts them in iPhone 5, YAY!"

Are you serious?????
@denisrs

1. The camera features on the iPhone 4 are a gimmick. If I want to take pictures I will use my Canon dSLR. If I want a high dynamic range picture I'll do it with a 3 shot burst on my SLR and use photoshop, most phone users don't know what that means, and I'll give you a hint, the iPhone HDR images are not that good by comparison.

2. The iPhone's screen resolution is undoubtedly great.
3. LTE/4G is in the process of being rolled out, we don't know what the pricing is going to be yet, so your claims about pricing are based on assumptions. I frequently tether to my phone when I'm on the road so I can commit revisions to our source repository on the go. My city happens to have LTE, and that would be quite useful.
4. 2 cores in a phone isn't about the developer, it's about multitasking performance. The iPhone 4 doesn't have true preemptive multitasking, so you wouldn't understand that. It's about how the OS schedules instructions on the processor, not necessarily the developer. Specs are specs on that one, and the specs are what they are. You can delude yourself on that, but guess what? Adding more processors always means more simultaneous threads. All of my Android apps (ones I've written) use multiple threads (persistence, UI, Business logic thread separation), and while they don't run slowly on single core phones, multicore phones will definitely add concurrency. As far as supporting multiple processors in the OS, all the manufacturer needs to do is compile a kernel with SMP support, it's a part of Linux which Android uses.

5. As far as feeling cheap, that's subjective. I like how my phone has no slick surfaces so it's hard to drop. I also like how my phone doesn't have a conductive antenna on the outside, meaning I have no detuning issues from touching my antenna.
@denisrs
iphone is so yesterday. Get with the new stuff pops. Thats why android phones are outselling iphones. People like choice and the iphone look and feel has gotten booooring.
@denisrs
But... like my BB Storm 9530 the iPhone is a TERRIBLE phone. The OS is wonderful... on an iPod Touch
My new DroidX is a great phone.
@denisrs left off one major iPhone4 benefit: reliability

In a number of surveys and tear-downs from MANY sources, iPhone came out on top (RIM a distant second, then everyone else) in terms of reliability = durability. After suffering for years with multiple Palm 700P's from VZW ("POS" doesn't always stand for Palm Operating System), finally a light at the end of the VZW tunnel!! And it's a solution not suffering from version fragmentation that will plague Android phones for MONTHS to come (months until version-NONupgradeable obsolescence, not years).
@denisrs
Sounds like the old "PowerPC is the greatest" until they put in the Intel chip and announced huge performances increases. I guess we have to wait for the announcement that Apple invents the kind of an application that can use more than 1 core.
@denisrs: I respect your opinion about iPhone as your personal, but I would disagree when you castigate Android phones as "cheap plastic junk". I have a desire HD, which is aluminium casing, and no it *does not* feel like a video cassette. I have friends who got the iPhone 4 and they think my phone is way, way cooler. Mind you, I liked the iPhone when it first came out. In fact, I set my heart on a 3GS, but then I heard the Apple CEO behave like a Steve Ballmer clone and I said that's it. I am not falling prey to another Stalin who tells me how I should breathe or get shot.

The other reason I don't like iPhone is that in India, the device is already six months or more old when they come. On top of that if the battery conks off, good luck replacing, if you are not under a warranty.

The thing is, both Android and Apple are trendsetters in the smartphone business, but for a person who wants to do more with his phone I would prefer Android any day.
@denisrs I don't recall wifi hotspots being EVERYWHERE. I have to go home or happen to be at a place of business that MAY have it (likely a hotel, which why do I need a hotel around the city I LIVE in).

The assumption that everyone has wifi hotspots at their disposal is a flawed logic.
@denisrs Well said!
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You're funny... ROFL...
Wolfie2K3 12th Jan 2011
@denisrs
You're spiel on Wifi reminds me of T-Mobile's latest ad - the spoof of the Mac vs PC ads with the cute brunette representing the MyTouch 4G vs the iPhone 4 guy who steps outside of his wifi zone and pays a rather painful looking price. It's up on YouTube. Search for Glitchy and T-Mobile.

The point is this: While 4G (LTE) isn't fully deployed right this instant, that doesn't mean it will NOT be deployed in the future. I forget the exact statistic Verizon on how far along their deployment was going to be by the end of this year, but LTE should, from what they claim be fully deployed by 2013. News flash - that's within the life expectancy of the contract you'll be signing with them. Odds are, unless you're living in the middle of the sticks you can probably expect the service to be up and running sooner, rather than later.

Your other comment about not needing 2 cores likewise cracks me up. Reminds me of the infamous quote mistakenly attributed to Bill Gates - you know the one about not ever needing more than 640 KB of RAM...

Just because no one's writing any apps that might use dual cores today doesn't mean squat. Fact is, there's more to a phone OS than running any ONE app. There's things like multitasking... You might have heard of this.

I've yet to see a Windows (or any other OS for that matter) that didn't run better with a multi-core chip inside. As someone else mentioned already, Android already supports dual core chips. I'm going to bet WP7 phones either already do as well or will do so in short order.

In fact your comment saying that there's NO use for dual cores until Apple does it only shows your arrogance and ignorance.

Btw... I'm banking Apple will NOT use dual core chips in their phones. Why? Because dual core chips likely will use up battery power faster. And that would likely hurt the iPhone sales. It is, after all, one of the highly touted "features"... And especially since Apple refuses to make the battery user replaceable.

It ain't likely to be happening.
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Fanboy much?
Xander_Crews 12th Jan 2011
@denisrs - Dude, the iPhone has it's advantages in a couple areas, but overall the top level Android phones are superior phones.

Most of your first paragraph sounds like an Apple advertisement and, not surprisingly, is either wrong, misleading, or simply a non-factor.

If you like your locked down, dumbed down smartphone (don't roll your eyes, that's what Apple does), then good for you. I'll stick with my more open platform, and smarter smartphone.

Sorry to burst your fan boy bubble.
@denisrs

"There is simply no practical use for two cores currently, it is just marketing stunt."

Clearly spoken by someone without decent multitasking. Watch, next he'll say something along the lines of no one needing more than 600k of RAM.
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@denisrs
joshdestardi@... brought up a lot of very valid instances that bring the performance of the iphone 4 into question. You missed a very big one that stops me from even thinking about an iPhone.

What I'm talking about is the limitations on bluetooth capabilities. A couple guys out in the woods that have simple first generation bluetooth phones can beam each other ringtones, music, photos, or whatever media they have until the cows come home. However, the latest, supposedly most sophistocated, iPhone (and all its predecessors) are incapable of sharing a single bit of information with each other without going through iTunes or a computer of some sort.
It's the biggest technological tragedy I have ever seen.
The iron fist of Steve Jobs dictates that "Thou shalt have no direct contact with another phone".

Who needs that?!
@denisrs
earning your paycheck? Shills are cheaper.
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You must be high!
Peter Perry 13th Jan 2011
@Bruizer you must be high... I own the incredible and the iPad, let me tell you the iPad is slower as is the iPhone 4 and the iphone doesn't even really multi-task!
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It's about the OS
2drinks 12th Jan 2011
"there were a few other devices already announced last week at CES that in nearly all respects beat the iPhone 4"

Believe it or not, a smartphone is about more than hardware specs. I wish some of these bloggers and journalists would figure that out. That's why a Blackberry with the best hardware specs on the market still wouldn't outsell iPhone or Android. Usability test after usability test has shown that people still find iOS the easier OS of the two to use. The Apple App Store has more apps in it. And biggest of all in my mind is there's no crapware that you can't uninstall preloaded on the phone the way you get with AT&T and Verizon.

Long story short, as long as the iPhone is competitive in the hardware department, they will continue to sell quite well, to the bafflement of journalists, bloggers, and Android fanbois, even if they don't have the best specs on the market at any given time. If you want to own the phone with the best hardware specs on the market, you'll be changing devices about as often as you change pants. It's a crap fight that no manufacturer will ultimately win and they all realize that, which is why they are all making their own customizations to Android in a desperate attempt to differentiate themselves from the competition. Ultimately, given Android's open nature, you're going to see severe divergence between manufacturers. They'll make every effort to ensure that apps will still work across these versions, but ultimately the OS on each manufacturers device will bear little resemblance to that on others and they will inevitably break compatibility in many cases because of this. We'll end up with the handheld equivalent of the differing Linux distros.
@Tiggster Interesting to note; nobody has mentioned that the cell phone model in this country just plain stinks. Why are phones and providers attached at the hip?

Why can't we be like Germany, or any of the other countries who are way more progressive and prohibit phones being tied to specific providers at all.

Oh what a wonderful world it would be. Just imagine...every phone sold is sold unlocked by law. No provider branding or crap ware. Pick your phone, then pick the provider that appeals to you...sweet.

Shame on you America.
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It's interesting thought
John Zern Updated - 11th Jan 2011
like someone mentioned on Twitter it could have been Apples strategy to make this happen sooner rather than later to try to stem the tide of the Android wave.

I remeber seeing a few articles about Apple inking a deal with AT&T to keep the iPhone exclusive on AT&T untill 2012.

Now, unless they just wanted to get as many sales as possible before the end of the world ( happy ), It may very well be true that Android sales on Verizon worried Apple enough to enact a contingency clause with AT&T, letting them end the exclusivity deal a year early. Add to that WP7 comming to Verizon in the future, maybe they just didn't like the numbers they were seeing?
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Excellent point
NonZealot 11th Jan 2011
@John Zern
The Apple world is heralding this as a huge win and that Verizon has caved to Apple.

I believe your story is more likely. Apple is the one that caved.
@NonZealot
I think they both caved in.
Apple by creating a CDMA iPhone and Verizon by laying out the welcome mat and allowing the former to control the user experience (ie. updates through the App Store and or some may say no crapware).
@NonZealot

@John Zern

But:
1) No Verizon logo on the phone. A first for any phone on the Verizon network.

2) No preloaded crapware.

3) No forced V Cast.

4) No forced Navigator.

With Verizon still bleeding customers to AT&T's inferior network, Verizon was just as interested in getting the iPhone on Verizon as Apple was at getting the iPhone on Verizon's network.

So far, Apple is the only mobile handset/mobile OS company that has ha any success at taking power away from the carriers and shifting the customer relationship away from the carriers.
@Bruizer

My guess is Verizon thought that their Droid phones and Droid brand was going to knock Apple of their thrown a bit (look how hard they pushed it). When it came time to negotiate, they thought they would have a strong "Android" hand at the table to demand certain things from Apple. No so sure this worked imo.

I think both companies needed this move, but Apple clearly came out looking like the winner here. If I was a Verizon gen customer and was looking at a list of phones in the iPhone price range. The choice is clear! No crapware that cant be uninstalled, no ugly V logo, no VCast, and plus all the Apple iPhone benefits like largest app store, the largest music and content store and the whole ecosystem around it....
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with a bunch of Verizon crapware you can't uninstall, Apple caved. If the iPhone is the only Verizon phone that DOESN'T have a bunch of Verizon crapware you can't uninstall, then Verizon caved. My money is on Verizon caving for the simple reason that with the iPhone, they don't have to offer discounts and two-for-one deals to move product.

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I didn't see Bruizer's comment. It's obvious Verizon caved.
@NonZealot
Here's the bottom line: in every quarter since the iPhone launched, AT&T has gained more customers than Verizon, despite its inferior network. The gap was particularly significant in the September quarter, where despite the Droid sales (most of which were to current subscribers) AT&T came out way ahead in subscriber additions after activating 5.2 million iPhones.

Simply stated, Verizon was sick of losing to AT&T because of the iPhone, so as stated by another commenter, they got to be very flexible. No preinstalled "V-Cast". . .no Verizon branding on the device itself. . .No "Verizon" announcement on start-up. Apple is conceding a bit here too, allowing its device on a network that won't allow simultaneous voice and data. Producing a CDMA iPhone at all is a concession, since CDMA has such a limited reach these days.
@NonZealot I think the fact there is no V store and no VZ branding is very telling about who was in control. The iPhone is the only handset now on VZ that doesn't have VZ branding and crapware pre-installed.
I shall laugh when Verizon's network fails to support all the iPhones and users much like AT&Ts network had trouble doing. I can only assume that like AT&T the network will be somehow different for Verizon customers because I never once experienced even a hiccup in service on AT&T when all the iPhone crap was happening. Have fun not being able to talk and surf at the same time Verizonites...
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