AMD Radeon HD 6870 and 6850 launching next week -- possible GeForce GTX 460 killers?

AMD Radeon HD 6870 and 6850 launching next week -- possible GeForce GTX 460 killers?

Summary: Nvidia's new Fermi cards haven't been runaway successes, but the GeForce GTX 460 has managed to hit the price/performance sweet spot. However, it looks like AMD will have an answer for it -- apparently as soon as next week.

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Nvidia's new Fermi cards haven't been runaway successes, but the GeForce GTX 460 has managed to hit the price/performance sweet spot. However, it looks like AMD will have an answer for it -- apparently as soon as next week.

The new Radeon HD 6850 and 6870 are rumored to launch on October 22, though there's been no official confirmation or pricing details announced yet. There's a bit of confusion around the naming of these cards, as they will actually replace the Radeon 5700 series and not the 5800 one. As a result, these should not necessarily perform as well as the 5850 and 5870, but an early benchmark leaked on Chinese Web site XFastest show that they provide a major boost over the 5750 and 5770.

The 3D Mark scores indicate that the 6870 (P16270 in 3DMark Vantage/19480 in 3DMark06) does indeed top the 5850 but it's still behind the 5870. However, both new cards beat the GeForce GTX 460 and obliterate the GTS 450. We'll have to wait until benchmarkers get their hands on the cards before we know how well they compare in actual gaming benchmarks.

As always, pricing will be crucial to the perceived value of these new boards. Performance that tops GeForce GTX 460 at the price of the 5700 series will be tough for Nvidia to beat. Lest you think AMD has forgotten the high-performance market segment, there should be a Radeon HD 6890 on the way, as well as the 6900 series, which is the true replacement for the 5800 lineup.

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  • RE: AMD Radeon HD 6870 and 6850 launching next week -- possible GeForce GTX 460 killers?

    and the consumers ??
    LionSaba
    • Nope. Not created as a "killer" of the GTX 460, and

      and not intended as a "killer" of consumers, either.

      Nvida and AMD create these things to kill POWER SUPPLIES and UPS boxes! They get kickbacks from Belkin, Antec, APC, CoolMaster, and etc. to support their ever-more-power-hungry designs.

      If your wife faints when she opens the monthly electric bill, that's unfortunate, and not what they intended at all- their strategy counts on you to take a 2-minute break from your fanstastic gaming experience to pay that bill online, so that she never has a chance to see how much of the power grid you're sucking into the house. ;)

      (I know absolutely nothing about high-end cards from either manufacturer. But Sean talked about Killings, and you talked about Killings, and I couldn't resist a little joke about it!)
      Rick S._z
      • RE: AMD Radeon HD 6870 and 6850 launching next week -- possible GeForce GTX 460 killers?

        @Rick S._z <br><br>I think your confused becausce AMD always strive to make less power consuming cards with every new series of cards. I agree with you about Nvidia as every series of cards they produce is more power hungry and less advanced with each new series, but this is not the case with AMD. These new AMD cards will perform better than the last series whilst using less power and operating cooler.

        Also as games become more hardware demanding they will require more powerful cards which in turn are going to be more 'power' demanding than older cards had to be. There is no conspiracy with the psu companys its just hardware has to become more powerful in order to keep up with more demanding software 'games'...
        Boomstick777
      • RE: AMD Radeon HD 6870 and 6850 launching next week -- possible GeForce GTX 460 killers?

        @Rick S._z That's the reason I changed from nVidia to Radeon. The Radeon's suck heaps less power and give brilliant performance.
        I never buy the top end cards (or CPUs). Usually in the upper midrange. Usually the best performance for price.
        I am Gorby
      • RE: AMD Radeon HD 6870 and 6850 launching next week -- possible GeForce GTX 460 killers?

        @Boomstick777

        You said what is in Quotes

        "I agree with you about Nvidia as every series of cards they produce is more power hungry and less advanced with each new series, but this is not the case with AMD. These new AMD cards will perform better than the last series whilst using less power and operating cooler."

        Not true at all, nVidia gets you teh Driver that kicks but for everything out first to maximized initial release,however even after the first update of a Cards Driver teh notice of power usage an dtemps are much better. Shoot now, ATI and has very little on the Fermi if anything at alll. Fermi will last, and has yet to tottally be tapped!! This Card will not be a nvidia Killer, and for you rlack of knowlege and ATI fanboy attitude, 805 of the games support nvidia native (nvidia Optimized) and well ATI just doesn't work well on them and sacrafices a lot of candy and physics, which is why tey perform equal to the nvidia! in responce to teh lack of adding advancements to the nVidia Cards, lets look at just how many things are in teh cards, yet even two generations back, keep up with the newest ATI cards today, the 5K series, and probably ust under the 6K by 10%. Your fib on this is so unrue it is insulting to yourself. nvidia forever has been the leader in technologies, and how a card should be optimized, whilst using less space, and peices. ATI has 1,000's of cores throughout right, but then in a single area of nVidia there is only 512. keep this in mind, when you talk about advanced technology. there cards are litterally 40% the complexity of the ATI and perform just as good as many generations of ATI into the future. fermi willl hold out for another Generation of Radeon For sure. I garanty it!!!


        You also said

        "Also as games become more hardware demanding they will require more powerful cards which in turn are going to be more 'power' demanding than older cards had to be. "

        this comment is true in many ways, but um dude you contradicted yourself with this comment, which totally killed your approach for any legitimate explaination. thanks
        Ez_Customs
  • RE: AMD Radeon HD 6870 and 6850 launching next week -- possible GeForce GTX 460 killers?

    both amd and nvidia like spueing out crap ,i have 2 latest cards from both companys and both are power hungry ,so dont lie they eat voltage for breakfast,and yes they do kill your power supply,s.both companys must change as in a few years time the will be less energy produced by companys and then where will we be no gaming no nothing, so stop lieing everyone ,and start making low energy,they both need to get rid of the transistor and start thinking of something out of this world to use as more tranis equel more heat more power,its a shame that they dont spend more money on developing a totaly new type of gpu cpu as there must be a way of getting rid of transistors and all the heat that goes with it ,seems to me both companys dont have the intelligence yet to think beyond just beating each other,s speed ,i say woop a doo ,i want speed and super low energy i want a pc thats mega quick and plays games at warp speed but only using 10 watts ,so come up with that ill be impressed....
    webheadx1
  • RE: AMD Radeon HD 6870 and 6850 launching next week -- possible GeForce GTX 460 killers?

    @webheadx1

    You are a complete imbecile.
    If you want a so called "10 watt Gpu that can run at warp speed", you must live in a alternate reality, because a light bulb that is turned on all of the way consumes about 60 watts or more. This "warp speed" you are referring to must mean you want a fast card. Rest assured
    I can guarantee that you will not see a 10 watt Gpu in your lifetime. Also I want to recommend that you see a counselor or a therapist to discuss your problems as you know nothing about hardware and probably should have never commented on this article or looked anything about it up.
    farfignewtunbutter
    • RE: AMD Radeon HD 6870 and 6850 launching next week -- possible GeForce GTX 460 killers?

      @farfignewtunbutter <br>Pot meet kettle <img border="0" src="http://www.cnet.com/i/mb/emoticons/silly.gif" alt="silly"><br>I'm sure low power usage GPU's are possible.<br>A 60w incandescent globe uses 60w (duh)<br>Fluorescent lights that emit the same amount of light use less wattage, the same goes for LED lighting.<br>If manufacturers of GPU's invested more in researching power saving technology and less on speed then we might end up with a 10w GPU in this lifetime, one that is capable of playing the latest games.
      An APU code name Ontario (9w) has built in GPU and is directX11 capable and similar in capabilities to the 5500 series.
      I Hate Malware
    • RE: AMD Radeon HD 6870 and 6850 launching next week -- possible GeForce GTX 460 killers?

      @farfignewtunbutter


      thats funny even though dudes just trying to make a point. youpeople and ATI fan boys are so confused itis rediculaous. the two cards have litterally 3% difference in power consumption, and well the ATI isn't as supported and processes less then the nvidia does in eye candy and physics, mainly because the games are nvidia optimized. Well ATI can't reproduce 4% of the Games!!!
      Ez_Customs