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Cisco Enters the E20 Fray - SCRM Next?

By | July 13, 2010, 7:26am PDT

Summary: Interesting….very interesting. If you remember a couple of years ago, I did my Companies to Watch 2009 posts - and, if you remember (and I’m sure  you don’t. Why would anyone but me remember? And I barely do), I included Cisco as a company to keep eyeballing. Here are some excerpts of what I said: Cisco - [...]

Interesting….very interesting.

If you remember a couple of years ago, I did my Companies to Watch 2009 posts - and, if you remember (and I’m sure  you don’t. Why would anyone but me remember? And I barely do), I included Cisco as a company to keep eyeballing. Here are some excerpts of what I said:

Cisco - This is the company that’s the biggest surprise and the least surprise. For the last two years, the company positioning itself as “the human network” - and using one of my favorite songs in the world - Baba O’Riley by The Who (also used onCSI:NY) for the marketing - has been placing itself into position of being an all purpose end to end set of applications, hardware, software and process engines for engaging the social customer. Not only did they link up with Oracle CRM on demand via their WebEx organization in 2007, but they’ve been building and modifying a “Unified Call Connectors” for integration with Microsoft Dynamics CRM or salesforce.com since 2006. But it goes so much further than that. Oh so much further. In 2007, Cisco purchases two social networking properties - FiveAcross, a socnet platform and tribes.net - more of a community aggregation site.  These acquisitions led to their announcement at the end of 2007 of Eos - an entertainment operating system - that’s designed to deliver rich media experiences across communities.  In February this year,The Sports Museum of America announced their use of Eos.  Even better, the Yankees are using Cisco as the technology backbone to power the fan experience at their new stadium using some remarkable innovative future-looking fan friendly mobile, high def and interactive capabilities - But of course, sigh, that isn’t enough.  But there is so much more to Cisco’s play. They have succeeded quickly with Cisco Telepresence - a phenomenally well done holographic sort of technology that allows meetings between any groups in the world from any locations in what seems to be projection a la holodeck. It has been wildly successful.  Check out this video for a mindblowing look at it.  But Telepresence and the Yankees, while incredibly cool, isn’t the reason they’re included. Under the aegis of John Chambers, they’ve organized their company culture and structure to make sure that each employee not only has access to management but are empowered to present ideas and follow through on problem solving both internally and externally. They have a democratic culture that actually is organized around innovation.  They emphasize organic leadership for that innovation and encourage the use of social media and social networking tools to facilitate that leadership. They understand their internal customer - the employee - as well as they understand their external customer. Their number 1 ranked internal blog is about collaboration.  The combination of this open and democratic culture, the positioning as a leader in the “human network,” the integration of Oracle CRM on on demand into their portfolio and their obvious interest in CRM via the Unified Call Connectors, their social networking acquisitions and how they’ve integrated them both into their portfolio and into their day to day corporate culture, and of course, we can never forget their dominance of the enterprise router business, position these guys as a company we could see emerge in 2009-2010 as a significant leader in social CRM.  My only concerns in that regard are that as of now, these don’t seem to be part of a coherent strategy to be a leader in world of the “customer engagement” infrastructure. They are just pieces of a puzzle that happen to fit. So perhaps, Cisco is content with doing all this to be the #1 player in the $50 billion router business - and that wouldn’t be a bad thing. But if they see how the whole puzzle  fits together (not just the pieces) and can present the vision - they could be a major surprise…

But they went kind of quiet this year and late last year so they didn’t make my companies to watch list for 2010 though I was watching them. But one pair of eyes do not a company to watch make - you may structure the language in any way you care to.   But lo and behold,  the other day, they come out and announce a social collaboration platform that they call Quad 2.0 (I don’t know what Quad 1.0 was or where it was either).  Which, name aside, seems to be, on release, a player that can compete with multiple others.

Here’s what I know about it so far:

  • Its focused heavily on internal collaboration, using profiles and wiki-like communities to share information.
  • Its got a heavy focus on rules-based systems that meet enterprise governance requirements including roles-derived policy management.  Even the search engine, an extremely powerful context-driven, semantic search engine, is roles and policy based which determines the level of access to information that each employee can see when a search query is executed.
  • Seems to be integrated with or integrable with SharePoint and Documentum, tied to the OpenSocial API, but not any CRM applications, but then again, does it really have to be?
  • STRONG emphasis also on Unified Communications with presence based IM, one click phone, video, Webex, etc.
  • Centralized administrative functionality including provisioning and maintenance.
  • Communities seem to be a little more robust than Lotus Connections 2.5 “activities.”
  • High degree of personalization with profiles with all the benefits that HR back end data brings like who is where and when plus what projects are they on - so availability is always accurate.
  • Choices of what is exhibited on “my” page is dictated by combination of individual employee and the role that they are assigned within the system, with the possibility of providing HR information that the employee doesn’t control.

All in all, they are well positioned to compete with Lotus Connections 2.5 as a collaboration or E20 platform. What this means to the E20 world I’ll leave to my far more astute colleagues Sameer Patel and Oliver Marks who know more about this space on each of their respective pinkies than I know in total.  But what makes this an interesting move to me is where this places Cisco on the spectrum of E20 and SCRM convergence - something that seems to be on the table now as both spaces mature.  I don’t know the answer, but the question has me very interested when it comes to Cisco.

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  • RE: Cisco Enters the E20 Fray - SCRM Next?
    Paul, I would really like to have a demo of this. From what info I could get reading their datasheet/videos on facebook, seems they are in the early days of Lotus Connections.

    I saw a demo of whats in Sharepoint 2010 today, and I don't see why a Microsoft shop with Exchange & OCS already in place would not opt for MOSS 2010 & go for Quad 2.0.

    Policy management, building rules, defining who can see what, from where (inside/on company infra or otherwise), all seem pretty appealing to regulated industries.

    Also, why do you want to compare Quad's Communities with Lotus Connections' Activities? They do have their Communities too.

    Thanks for bringing this to our notice Paul. happy Makes a really interesting contender in the game.

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    13th Jul 2010
  • RE: Cisco Enters the E20 Fray - SCRM Next?
    Hey Prem,
    Thanks to you for as always a totally intelligent perspective on things. As far as why I compared them that way - Lotus Connection's communities are outcome based and not built for the long term. They are their "activities" feature, at least according to Lotus. The Quad 2.0 communities seem to be ongoing, long term, not aimed at storing and archiving i.e. not outcome based.
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    15th Jul 2010

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