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The Thing About Analysts - And PR/Marketing Folks

By | July 29, 2010, 9:40am PDT

Summary: I was reading Ray Wang’s great post on “The 7 Tenets of Building a Star Analyst Firm” and then Vinnie Mirchandani’s  follow up “More Tenets for the Nex Gen Analyst” and it got me to thinking - on a tangent, but on something that might matter to all those PR and marketing people responsible for [...]

I was reading Ray Wang’s great post on “The 7 Tenets of Building a Star Analyst Firm” and then Vinnie Mirchandani’s  follow up “More Tenets for the Nex Gen Analyst” and it got me to thinking - on a tangent, but on something that might matter to all those PR and marketing people responsible for analyst relations and to anyone who deals with analysts in the industry any day of the week because they need/want to.

For reasons that are unclear to me, analysts are given enormous amounts of power when it comes to influencing decisions.  I would imagine that the power emanates from the perception that the buying public will listen to the analysts thinking (which ranges from outstanding to not so much that) and have their buying decisions influenced disproportionately by analyst recommendations.  If they are listening to a Ray Wang or Vinnie Mirchandani for example, then the public is in good hands - and their analyst fame is well deserved.  But like anything else, there are good analysts and bad analysts.  Ray and Vinnie are highly influential analysts because they are smart and cogent and reasoned in their thinking. There are others who, well….they are not at the top of their craft, let’s just say.

Conversely, most industry analysts (I’m often included in that bucket, though I don’t think that of), are of interest to companies that are trying to make an impact in the marketplace. The companies understand that a well placed word or two from one of the more respected pundits can get you somewhere. Its not going to increase the bottom line, but its going to increase mindshare and street cred and validates the company’s claims, which can lead to market share, which leads to increases in revenue.  The “get-on-the-analysts-radars” is a serious game for them.

For example, I get between 20-30 requests a week for my time from marketing and PR representatives from companies I know and companies I never heard of.  For a conversation perhaps?  Maybe a demo? Or whatever.

I try to be courteous and respond to as many as possible, even if to say no thank you.  But I’m also a human being who wants a life. So I need to be choosy about which ones I respond to, what I agree (or not agree) to and how I say it.  Often, when I do respond, its seen as a “respond back, start a dialog” opportunity” so I have to respond again. My bandwidth is somewhat limited, so each of the requests takes a decision of some sort from me - which means I’m prone to respond to certain types of emails.  And prone to immediately zone out to others. But all in all, I look at all of them and decide something.

So, before I go any further, please consider a past, present and future blanket apology to those I don’t respond to. I don’t mean to be rude or self-important. I just don’t have the bandwidth to agree to see everything that everyone requests. I feel bad, I really do, because I know they are only doing what they think is best for their company  - and I respect that.  But I can’t and won’t respond to everyone. So again, my apologies.

That said, I do take some of them and listen and even will try and help if I can move something forward. But getting my attention and by extension the attention of the Ray Wangs and Vinnie Mirchandanis is very important.  In the age of social whatever, some personal knowledge is very important to that. I often get pitched from companies that I either have a longstanding deep relationship to and the person pitching me from some external PR firm clearly did no homework and didn’t know that - shame on them for not even asking the client - or they know nothing about me or what I do and I’m a nameless faceless entity that is getting a generic email shoved down its throat.

But knowing something personal about me is still not enough.  I’m going to produce, with a redaction of the product description and names, since I don’t want to embarrass the author), an email I got about a year ago that is still something that provokes wide-eyed wonder in me.  Why? Because its THAT bad.  This is the epitome of what never to do, marketers and PR people out there.  Here it is:

“Dear Paul,

I just discovered your blog and want to say how much I appreciate your insights.  You are teaching people to want what we offer.

As I read people who dream about CRM-TNG, I don’t see any evidence that anyone (other than my company) is addressing the impossibility of bridging gaps from 1.0 to 2.0 without getting a handle on how people discover, propagate and analyze their own, company-specific best practices.

We’ve created something that rides salesforce.com’s tools to (THIS PERSON GOES ON TO DESCRIBE THEIR TOOL IN SOME DETAIL WHICH I’LL LEAVE OUT HERE).

We have a demo on our site that introduces some basic concepts, however I think the best use of your time is to work through a webinar with me. You’ll see the latest version as you fire all your toughest questions at me.

Would you like to take some time for this?

Thanks again for all your blogging!”

(NAME REDACTED BY ME)

Now, I’m sure that the person who wrote this thought they were being confident or breezy or something but what in the name of….were they thinking? I don’t know where to begin with what’s so wrong about this but it is SO wrong.

Here are the most egregious “errors”:

  1. His association of my blog’s value as “teaching people to want what (they) offer.”  As if that’s why I write it.  Even though I know he knows that’s not the case, just putting it down in the email in the first paragraph was about as stupid a mistake as could be made because the email thus starts with me irritated at the lack of any tact whatever.
  2. The expression of his arrogance that no one but they are addressing necessary 1.0 to 2.0 transformations. Plenty of vendors and practitioners and consultants and analysts and other interested parties are addressing it quite well, thank you.
  3. Assuming that he can tell me “the best use of (my) time.”  That’s just an astonishingly ill-conceived statement because it presumes without any reason to that a. I’m giving him my time and presuming I am, b. he can tell me its best use.  He wasn’t asking me. He told me. That assumes a lot closer relationship than he and I have. Ours is as close as the earth is to the edge of the Milky Way.

This one has been on my wall for a long time.  I use it as my template for horrible outreach so that I never make mistakes like this - nor do I take any demos or calls from people like this. Nor should you.

Besides, I still can’t figure out what TNG means.  The Next Great? As in CRM-TNG = Social CRM?  Do you know?  Whatever…..

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In addition to being the author of the best-selling "CRM at the Speed of Light: Social CRM Strategies, Tools, and Techniques for Engaging Your Customers," Paul Greenberg is President of The 56 Group, LLC.

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Paul Greenberg

Paul Greenberg has no investments in any firms that have CRM related or enterprise related applications or solutions, nor does he have any investments in any stock or other form of ownership in a consulting firms that does any form of enterprise application consulting or CRM consulting. However, at one time or another Paul has had almost all the significant CRM vendors as clients performing services as a consultant who would view and review and suggest product enhancements, changes or suggest how to cure product deficiencies; possible engagements to suggest go to market strategies for each company as they launched a new CRM solution. He has been engaged as a speaker at public events by these companies covering a mutually agreed upon topic and has written white papers sponsored by the vendors - which have no mention of the vendor and do not endorse the vendor�s products- but instead are based around thought leadership and ideas. None of these engagements whether they are consulting or works for hire, ever has impacted Paul�s thinking good or bad, on any of these companies. Paul is in fact known for his honest straightforward public assessments of these companies. They are not immune to his public critique even when they are clients. When it is germane, Paul will disclose his relationship, if any, to a company that he might be writing about in either a positive or negative way.

Biography

Paul Greenberg

In addition to being the author of the best-selling CRM at the Speed of Light: Social CRM Strategies, Tools, and Techniques for Engaging Your Customers" Paul Greenberg is President of The 56 Group, LLC, a customer strategy consulting firm, focused on cutting edge CRM strategic services and a founding partner of the CRM training company, BPT Partners, LLC, a training and consulting venture composed of a number of CRM luminaries that has quickly become the authority for the CRM industry.

His book, CRM at the Speed of Light: Essential Customer Strategies for the 21st Century, now in its fourth edition, is in 8 languages and been called "the bible of the CRM industry". It is used by more than 70 universities as a primary text. It was named "the number 1 CRM book" by SearchCRM.com in 2002 and is one of two books recommended by CustomerThink. The Asian edition of CIO Magazine named it one of the 12 most important books an Asian CEO will ever read. Paul has also authored two other books including "E-Government for Public Officials" (Thompson Publishing, 2003).

Paul is also the Chairman of the Advisory Committee of the University of Toronto's Rotman School of Management CRM Centre of Excellence, and the Executive Vice President of the CRM Association.

Paul is considered a thought leader in CRM, having been published in numerous industry and business publications over the years and having traveled the world speaking on cutting edge CRM and topics geared to the contemporary social customer. He has been called "the godfather of CRM", the "Walt Whitman of CRM" and even "the Bob Dylan of CRM" by analysts and organizations throughout the industry. He is known particularly for his work on the use of social media, such as blogs, podcasts and wikis and social networks/communities in CRM as tools and channels for customer collaboration with a company. He is seen often as the "voice of the customer" and is well known within the CRM industry for this work. His blog, PGreenblog has been named the #1 CRM blog every year from 2005-2010 by all industry award providers. He also has a podcast, Experience on the Edge, that has garnered a myriad of industry kudos and his collaboration with Brent Leary on the always funny, often cutting, CRM Playaz" is the most popular broadcast in the CRM world.

Paul was also named one of the most influential people in CRM by CRM Magazine in August 2008. In 2010, he was inducted into CRM Magazine's CRM Hall of Fame.

He is a member of the Destination CRM Board of Experts and the SearchCRM Expert Advisory Panel as well as a member of the Board of Advisors for GreaterChinaCRM for many years. He also sits on the Board of Advisors of the CIE Institute and and multiple other companies.

Currently, Paul lives in Manassas, Virginia with his wife and five cats. To reach Paul, please email him at paul-greenberg3@the56group.com. You can follow him at Twitter or join up with him on LinkedIn or Facebook.

Talkback Most Recent of 6 Talkback(s)

  • RE: The Thing About Analysts - And PR/Marketing Folks
    Paul, actionable perspectives, as always. To your last question, I'm going to guess that its: 'The Next Generation'. And have a great CRMEvolution next week in New York.
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    mheiligman
    29th Jul 2010
  • Wow!
    I can't believe that this actually happened. Not sure if I should laugh or cry first. This email is not only badly researched and positioned, but also rude, presumptious and devoid of any class.

    Do you also get a lot of unsolicited requests to pick your brain? Hmmm.. unless we are tight like that, my hourly rate is xyz happy

    Thanks for sharing this!

    - Maria Ogneva (@themaria)
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    themaria
    29th Jul 2010
  • RE: The Thing About Analysts - And PR/Marketing Folks
    That of course begs the counter : what is the best way to get on an analysts radar?

    My two cents is that you need to establish yourself, so being the PR/marketing person is not necessarily the best approach : building some credibilty and a brand in the field prior to approachng the analyst, and perhaps engaging on an industry level prior to deepening the relationship?


    What do the analysts out there say works for them?
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    mg_stacey@...
    30th Jul 2010
  • RE: The Thing About Analysts - And PR/Marketing Folks
    @mg_stacey@... The thing to remember is that analysts are individuals so what they respond to varies from person to person. But the general rule, whether trying to get in front of an institutional analyst (e.g. Gartner, Forrester, IDC) or an independent analyst (Esteban Kolsky, Brent Leary, Denis Pombriant) is to a. know something about them b. try to be somewhere where you can meet them in person c. do exactly what you said above - have some credibility built so that perhaps you've already been noticed - or at least can point to somewhere that you can be noticed. Comment intelligently on their blogs - though don't make a product push at all. Be noticed as a person who represents a company, not a marketer per se. All of these things are tweaks and nuances. The most important thing is a. have a product/service/tool/consumable experience worth talking about and get it talked about via digital and print media.
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    pgreenbe
    31st Jul 2010
  • RE: The Thing About Analysts - And PR/Marketing Folks
    Paul:
    Having been what I'd like to think is an 'enlightened' PR/Marketing guy (for the past 20+ yrs), I'm still amazed to see that flacks continue to send pitches like the one you included in this post. You might want to send your egregious "errors" to your ZDNet colleague (and my friend) Rafe Needleman for his funny/terrifying blog of tips for PR people (http://proprtips.com).
    Best
    --Patrick (Rafter)
    Valuecasters
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    prafter
    4th Aug 2010
  • RE: The Thing About Analysts - And PR/Marketing Folks
    HiLaRiOuS!!! What a great example. Always helpful when you and other analysts share these golden nuggets for us PR/Marketing folks.
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    KathySaenz
    6th Oct 2010

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