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Random freeze problem chills Windows Server 2008 R2 / Windows 7

By | August 24, 2010, 11:24am PDT

Summary: Seeing some odd behavior with your Windows Server 2008 R2 installation? There might well be a good reason for it.

It isn’t often that attempting to diagnose a problem with my desktop computer leads me to what is potentially a serious problem in the datacenter. I recently moved to Windows 7 x64 as my primary desktop. I had been running the operating system on various machines since relatively early in the beta process, but migrating my main working computer to a new OS is always a chore I tend to put off for a bit.

But I finally bit the bullet, lined up Windows 7 and 64-bit versions of all of my key applications, and did a clean installation on a new hard drive.  I’ve gradually been reinstalling my regularly used applications as I moved my workload on to the new OS, but about a week ago I started experiencing random freezes where I would lose access to the computer for anywhere from a few seconds to a few minutes, with the occasional reboot required.

The issue manifested in a really bad way when I tried to move data from multiple DVD drives to different hard drives.  The system locked up hard and required rebooting each time I tried the same process.  This was enough to motivate me to look for a fix to the problem.

I was open-minded about it; the computer is a couple years old and I was open to the possibility that I was having a hardware failure, not an OS failure, but as my warranty is still in effect I wasn’t too concerned if that turned out to be the case (Dell support for their XPS systems has been pretty good in my experience).

But while searching for a possible root cause it turned out that there was a hotfix for the problem of random freezes, not just with Windows 7, but also Windows server 2008 R2. The hotfix was released on August 12th.

Microsoft describes the symptoms as:

A computer that is running Windows Server 2008 R2 or Windows 7 stops responding randomly. Applications or services that are running on the computer stop working correctly. Additionally, you cannot log on to the computer by using the remote desktop connection utility.

And the cause as:

This issue occurs because of a deadlock condition between the Lsass.exe process, the Redirected Drive Buffering Subsystem (Rdbss.sys) driver, and the Winsock kernel.

The hotfix is part of what will eventually (early 2011) be released as SP1 for Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2.

Hard to think of a bigger nightmare for datacenter IT than an OS bug which causes a random server freeze, but if you are running Windows server 2008 R2 and have experienced this phenomenon, here’s a possible fix for you.  As for me; I’ve applied it, and the desktop hasn’t locked up today.

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David Chernicoff

With more than 20 years of published writings about technology, as well as industry stints as everything from a database developer to CTO, David Chernicoff has earned the term "veteran" in the technology world. Currently the principal of an independent consulting business and an active freelance writer, David has most recently been a Senior Contributing Editor for Windows IT Pro magazine, having also been the Lab Director for Windows NT Magazine, Technical Director of PC Week Labs, the author or co-author of a number of books on different versions of Windows, a plethora of eBooks on various technology topics, and of approximately 3000 magazine articles in print and on the web.

Talkback Most Recent of 54 Talkback(s)

  • RE: Random freeze problem chills Windows Server 2008 R2
    This is the EPITOME of a thing that should have been released during the regular patch cycle, if not immediately.

    Why the heck would Microsoft want people to go and download a hotfix for an issue that a lot of people are having and WHICH THEY KNOW ABOUT?
    ZDNet Gravatar
    Lerianis10
    24th Aug 2010
  • More to it than that
    @Lerianis10

    Hotfixes are targeted first and foremost for mission-critical systems at the enterprise level. Quick Fix engineers at Microsoft produce code patches for such customers only when they experience what are deemed "critical" issues and other workarounds are not available. Thus the lack of public fanfare re their availability.

    Since Hotfixes do not undergo rigorous beta testing when they're developed, they are not earmarked for general consumption. Being very specific in nature and without regression testing, MS has always advised that clients request and apply these only if one experiences the EXACT problem they're cited to address (this presupposes you're up to date with the latest service pack and security patches).

    Some of these HF patches are later incorporated into service packs for general release, but only after they undergo more comprehensive testing. Service packs by design are more planned and tested, which assures the fixes they incorporate are suitable for use on ANY customer's system. Patches OTOH are developed on an as-needed basis, and only to remedy very specific performance issues (bugs).
    ZDNet Gravatar
    klumper
    24th Aug 2010
  • In other words...
    ...download this hotfix and then pray it doesn't hose your system...

    Wow, great confidence here...

    lol... grin
    ZDNet Gravatar
    ahh so
    25th Aug 2010
  • @Nicholas...
    You just confirmed to me that you don't inspire any confidence. None, whatsoever.

    I hope they don't send you their broken machines to fix.
    ZDNet Gravatar
    ahh so
    27th Aug 2010
  • RE: Random freeze problem chills Windows Server 2008 R2
    @klumper That is a good article, thank you~~~ chanel shopping bags chanel tote bags chanel wallets
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    yantangseo
    22nd Sep
  • RE: Random freeze problem chills Windows Server 2008 R2
    I've had random freezes with Windows 7 Pro 32-bit, so I wonder if the problem extends that far.
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    Rick lite
    24th Aug 2010
  • Lsass.exe is a pain in the behind
    Frequent disk access and lock-up are all caused by it. Don't know why they design a program like that.
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    LBiege
    24th Aug 2010
  • Yes and
    for those of you trying to network XP to Vista/Win7 you will find more disasters in the shadows. Random file handle and share disconnects as well as the inability to copy large files across shares. It's compounded if the server is XP based and the clients Vista/W7. Still bad if it's the other way around. Disabling Samba 2.0 seems to help but you lose the benefits of fast large block transfers. What good are they if they aren't reliable huh?
    ZDNet Gravatar
    LarsDennert
    24th Aug 2010
  • Microsoft are dragging their heels on SP1.
    There are plenty of bugs and vulnerabilities, and things such as Search that need improving anyway. I'm sick of the idiots that say "It doesn't need a service pack".
    ZDNet Gravatar
    peter_erskine@...
    24th Aug 2010
  • RE: Random freeze problem chills Windows Server 2008 R2
    Thank God!!!
    I first thought I had an overheat issue with the cpu
    Then I thought I had a faulty power supply
    Then I thought I had a bad hard drive or perhaps video driver.
    Then I thought, virus or malware.
    I downloaded and ran the fix. We will see
    Windows 7 Pro, 32 bit.
    ZDNet Gravatar
    coachgeorge
    24th Aug 2010
  • take a troubleshooting class dude
    @coachgeorge

    LOL.... Wow... Those are some serously random conclusions to jump to George... Way too random... A troublshooting class along with a PC fundamentals class might give you a chance...
    ZDNet Gravatar
    i8thecat
    24th Aug 2010
  • RE: Random freeze problem chills Windows Server 2008 R2
    @i8thecat
    Look at the symptoms:
    1-Computer freezes randomly
    2-Computer re-boots randomly
    Look at possible things that could cause that
    1-A cpu that overheats
    2-VCC that drops too far below 5VDC
    3-A Bad or faulty C drive
    4-Bad Video card that drops the output of the power supply too low.
    5-Granted, the video card driver was a shot in the dark.
    6-Malware.

    All do respect, everything I suspected is capable to causing my symptoms. I did not think Windows 7, after a very successful Beta, would be the cause.
    I am very happy to say that after loading the fix, everything has been stable.
    ZDNet Gravatar
    coachgeorge
    24th Aug 2010
  • take an etiquette class
    @i8thecat

    Everything he mentioned above are possible symptoms. What would you suggest, anything? Or is it simply easier to bash someone rather than offer a hand?
    ZDNet Gravatar
    gnr8tor
    25th Aug 2010
  • RE: Random freeze problem chills Windows Server 2008 R2
    Also, faulty RAM or memory controller have been known to cause lock-ups in the past. Less of a problem these days with the quality control on the integrated memory controllers but still not impossible.
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    odubtaig
    25th Aug 2010
  • RE: Random freeze problem chills Windows Server 2008 R2
    @coachgeorge

    And I added an extensive memory check to that list as well. I have been experiencing this problem for 5-6 months now! I spent 4-5 hours on the phone with Microsoft and they weren't able to solve it (last try was about one month ago.)
    The action center keeps telling me that the problem is with IE8 add-ons, but I disabled all and still have the problem. I sure hope the patch (which I just requested) does the trick this time!
    ZDNet Gravatar
    FiOS-Dave
    25th Aug 2010

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