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NYC might use ePals, but New York State schools have gone Google

By | October 5, 2010, 7:30am PDT

Summary: New York City goes ePals/Live@Edu. New York State goes Google. Who wins? The students, of course!

Less than 3 months ago, New York City Public Schools, ePals, and Microsoft announced that a Live@Edu-driven ePals would be the educational collaboration platform of choice for the 2 million students, parents, and teachers in the district. Today, in an interesting turn of events, Google announced that New York State will be making Google Apps for Education available to districts statewide as an email and groupware solution. So is there a winner here? It’s hard to say whether Microsoft or Google comes out on top in New York, but clearly the students win in terms of access to state of the art web-based collaboration software.

New York now follows Oregon, Iowa, Colorado, and Maryland in providing Google Apps to districts throughout the state. In a blog post by Jaime Casap, Google Apps Education Manager, it’s clear that, as with the ePals rollout in New York City, professional development and best practices were at the forefront of this effort:

Today, New York Institute of Technology (NYIT), in partnership with the New York State Teacher Centers and associated Boards of Cooperative Educational Services (BOCES), the New York State teacher unions and New York State professional organizations, will offer Google Apps access, training and support to 697 public school districts, as well as all non-public and charter schools, across New York.

This is where these sorts of large-scale efforts really shine. Although countless individual school districts have gone Google (or gone Microsoft, for lack of a better catchphrase), projects with support and buy-in from major stakeholders that can touch hundreds of thousands or even millions of students can flourish in ways that the average tech director or intrepid media specialist will struggle to attain.

So why the disconnect between New York State and New York City? New York City, given its size and resources, went through a separate RFP process and specifically looked to be able to leverage existing on-premise Microsoft architectures. Their RFP also included requirements for language translation that went beyond the capabilities of Google Translate and were already part of what ePals offered, given their emphasis on international classroom connections. That being said, the several hundred districts throughout the state, like many other smaller and/or rural districts across the country, lack large systems in which considerable resources have already been invested, making it easier for them to implement any solution, including that provided by Google. While no districts in the state are required to use Google Apps, the training and professional development resources available through NYIT make Apps a fairly easy choice.

It’s worth noting that Google has powerful tools for migration from Microsoft Exchange. The tools are mature and work very well. However, the integration between on-premise Microsoft Active Directory and Exchange Server and Live@Edu (now the underpinnings of ePals’ SchoolMail) are hard to ignore for schools heavily vested in Microsoft ecosystems.

In any case, all students and staff in New York will soon have access to cutting edge communication and collaboration platforms, whether they are in the City using ePals/Live@Edu, in other districts that have already moved to Live@Edu, or are in districts that will be leveraging Google Apps for Education through the statewide initiative.

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Chris Dawson is a freelance writer and consultant with years of experience in educational technology and web-based systems. In 2011, he became the Vice President of Marketing for WizIQ, Inc., a virtual classroom and learning network SaaS provider.

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Christopher Dawson

Christopher Dawson is the Vice President of Marketing for WizIQ, Inc., by day and a freelance writer and educational technology consultant by night. Well, most of his colleagues at WizIQ are based in India, so really he's working with them whenever he can stay awake. He has worked for his local school district as a teacher and technology director, for the Johns Hopkins University School of Public Health, and for Biogen, Inc. (now Biogen-IDEC, Inc.). He has also consulted with STATNet and Cytyc Corporation and retains close ties with X2 Development Corporation (now owned by Follett Software, the supplier of the student information system he administered for several years). Follett is paying him a monthly honorarium to act as a presenter for their "SIS Voices for Student Achievement" community (he produces occasional blog posts and hosts a monthly webinar on the use of student information systems to inform data-driven instruction and school-wide change. He regularly purchases and/or recommends Dell hardware. This is because Dell makes good hardware and has truly committed itself to education in innovative ways, particularly with their "Connected Classroom" initiative. It isn't because he has dealings with the company through his role at WizIQ (which he does) or because they have provided him with long-term loans of a variety of equipment for in-depth testing (which they have). Intel (reference designer for the Classmate PCs he has implemented in his local schools) has provided him with long-term loans of Classmate PCs for testing, as have Dell and Lenovo with their educational offerings. He may report on any of these companies as his experiences with them have direct bearing on educational technology; positive reports are not necessarily an endorsement and he receives no direct financial compensation from these companies or any others. Intel paid all expenses for his attendance at the 2009 Intel Classmate PC Ecosystem Summit which he attended as the sole representative of the technology press. He was invited to attend in 2010 but his wife would have killed him if he spent 3 days in Vegas geeking out and left her home alone with a new baby. Acer provided him with a 50% discount on an Aspire One netbook in early 2009 after he tested it for 30 days through their educational seed program. He liked the netbook at the time but it has since broken and sits unused in his office. Canonical sent him Ubuntu lanyards, t-shirts, and mousepads for his kids. He stole one of the lanyards and proudly hangs his keys from it and occasionally features his 8-year old wearing an oversized Ubuntu t-shirt on his Facebook profile. Gunnar Optiks sent him a pair of computer glasses to evaluate for a holiday gift guide. He is wearing them now as he types this because they never asked for them back and they rock out loud. Seriously - they work brilliantly and make it much easier to spend 20 hours a day staring at an LCD. If they ever asked for them back, he would fork over the $99 and buy a pair. Microsoft gave him 2 free copies of Office 2010 professional, a desktop clock, and a useless book on Office 2010 when he attended the launch of Office/Sharepoint 2010. He occasionally uses the SharePoint lanyard they gave him instead of the Ubuntu lanyard for his keys, but feels dirty afterwards. Adobe provided him with a pre-release version of the CS5 Master Collection for evaluation and ultimately provided a full, licensed copy for ongoing testing of educational applications of this admittedly expensive software. Like the Gunnars, if the license expires or they come out with CS6, he'd actually go out and buy it himself. Which is saying something, because he's actually pretty cheap. Any other companies wishing to send him cool things to evaluate, wear, or otherwise adorn his kids are more than welcome to; he promises to disclose it here if he keeps any of the stuff. Finally, because WizIQ is a virtual classroom and learning network provider, Chris, as VP of Marketing, frequently interacts with, seeks out deals with, and directly or indirectly competes with a whole lot of LMS, SIS, and other Education 2.0 companies. In general, he'll limit his reporting about these companies to news that does not impact his relationship with them or with WizIQ. If he reports on them, it's because what they are doing is newsworthy or worth the attention of his readers and not because he's trying to broker some deal, damage competition, or otherwise advance his position in his day job. LMS and SIS companies, along with other online learning communities, are a pretty important part of Ed Tech. If he stops reporting on them completely, there won't be a whole lot left. He'll be sure to call out any overt conflicts of interest if they are unavoidable. Finally, Follett Software Company pays him a little tiny honorarium every month to present on their SIS Voices webinars and to write the occasional blog or discussion thread for them. Since Follett recently bought X2 (maker of an awesome web-based SIS that Chris just happened to have used, served in advisory groups for, and frequently reported on), this is probably also worth disclosing.

Biography

Christopher Dawson

Christopher Dawson grew up in Seattle, back in the days of pre-antitrust Microsoft, coffeeshops owned by something other than Starbucks, and really loud, inarticulate music. He escaped to the right coast in the early 90's and received a degree in Information Systems from Johns Hopkins University. While there, he began a career in health and educational information systems, with a focus on clinical trials and related statistical programming and database modeling. This focus led him to several positions at Johns Hopkins, a couple-year stint in private industry, teaching high school math and technology, and 2 years as the technology director for his local school district. Most recently, he started his own consulting business and is now the Vice President of Marketing for WizIQ, Inc., a virtual classroom and learning network provider. He lives with his wife, five kids (yes, 5), 2 dogs, and a hateful cat in a small town in north-central Massachusetts. Although he is no longer teaching, his roles with WizIQ and ZDNet allow him to continue helping students and teachers add value to education with technology rather than merely adding to the bottom line.
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RE: NYC might use ePals, but New York State schools have gone Google
jorjitop 7th Oct 2010
Great news. More fodder for the Google employees to spy on. Watch out for the young girls chatter. The history is there, and there is worse to come.
as the city and gone with live.edu. oh well...
@Johnny Vegas
Hardly - Microsoft has no place in any business or government entity. Period.
Just like drug dealers, Google tries to hook them while they are young.
@Loverock Davidson

Just like Drug Dealers Microsoft tries to hook them while they are young. And with Monkey Boi at the helm, it's your "Creepy Uncle" drug dealer.
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Google will beat Microsoft Down
charaze 5th Oct 2010
Students will generally turn to Google rather than use ePal. Google has come a long way in providing a lot of students the answers they're looking for whether they're looking for who really first set foot on the moon or just asking how to make a sandwich. Google has the answer and will always have them.
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Great news. More fodder for the Google employees to spy on. Watch out for the young girls chatter. The history is there, and there is worse to come.

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