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Christopher Dawson

OpenOffice is dead

By | May 11, 2010, 12:49pm PDT

Summary: You have Google Apps and Office Web Apps on one side and Office 2010 on the other. Why bother with OpenOffice when the free web-based suites are so good?

As I mentioned over on the Google blog last night, I’m headed to the Office 2010 launch tomorrow. While Office in particular and Microsoft in general are hardly my beats, productivity and groupware software in the face of Google’s Apps and education’s need to extract every last bit of value from our investments certainly are. This is why I’ve thrown myself so completely behind Google Apps. For educational institutions, it’s free and it works very well, both as a document collaboration solution and as an email/calendaring suite.

It’s also why I’ve been a big proponent of OpenOffice. Again, it’s free and provides a perfectly workable alternative to Office. It’s mature, stable, and works cross platform. And it’s free. What’s not to like, right?

But here’s the thing: If someone needs a desktop office suite (and I mean they don’t just think they need one, but actually need to do things that can’t be done with Google Apps), then they aren’t going to be satisfied with OpenOffice. I don’t blame them, actually. Given my choice of Office 2007/2010 or OpenOffice, I’d pick Office. It’s polished, it’s easy, and it’s powerful. To be honest, I’m not even satisfied with Office 2008 on the Mac; I run XP in a virtual machine to get to Office 2010 when I need it.

For users who don’t need Office, it’s a rare occasion that Google Docs doesn’t suffice. And yet for those who need Office, it’s rare that they’re happy with OpenOffice. Where does that leave OO.org? Our district is fairly rural and there are still plenty of homes with only dial-up or without Internet access entirely. For these families, OpenOffice is a great choice since they rarely have access to academic pricing on Office and can’t get online to access Apps. As reasonable access to the Internet becomes ubiquitous, though, Google Docs or Office Web Apps (even via Facebook) will meet the majority of student and teacher productivity needs.

Am I wrong? Am I so dazzled by the pretty lights in Office that I’ve lost sight of the value of OpenOffice? I don’t think I am. The majority of the time, the students and staff I support tend to make use of Google Docs. Same for me. On my Linux machines, it’s rare that I’ll fire up OpenOffice, despite it being a solid choice for desktop productivity. That’s what the Internet is for, right? Because in addition to Google Apps, there is Zoho and Office Web Apps, all of which work quite well.

I just don’t see much of a place in mainstream education for OpenOffice anymore. Pre-loaded on laptops and netbooks in developing countries where Internet access is unreliable or non-existent? You bet. But why use OpenOffice when most of your users can work quite well with Apps and licensing costs for Office are low for the small number of users who need a full-blown desktop suite?

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Chris Dawson is a freelance writer and consultant with years of experience in educational technology and web-based systems. In 2011, he became the Vice President of Marketing for WizIQ, Inc., a virtual classroom and learning network SaaS provider.

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Christopher Dawson

Christopher Dawson is the Vice President of Marketing for WizIQ, Inc., by day and a freelance writer and educational technology consultant by night. Well, most of his colleagues at WizIQ are based in India, so really he's working with them whenever he can stay awake. He has worked for his local school district as a teacher and technology director, for the Johns Hopkins University School of Public Health, and for Biogen, Inc. (now Biogen-IDEC, Inc.). He has also consulted with STATNet and Cytyc Corporation and retains close ties with X2 Development Corporation (now owned by Follett Software, the supplier of the student information system he administered for several years). Follett is paying him a monthly honorarium to act as a presenter for their "SIS Voices for Student Achievement" community (he produces occasional blog posts and hosts a monthly webinar on the use of student information systems to inform data-driven instruction and school-wide change. He regularly purchases and/or recommends Dell hardware. This is because Dell makes good hardware and has truly committed itself to education in innovative ways, particularly with their "Connected Classroom" initiative. It isn't because he has dealings with the company through his role at WizIQ (which he does) or because they have provided him with long-term loans of a variety of equipment for in-depth testing (which they have). Intel (reference designer for the Classmate PCs he has implemented in his local schools) has provided him with long-term loans of Classmate PCs for testing, as have Dell and Lenovo with their educational offerings. He may report on any of these companies as his experiences with them have direct bearing on educational technology; positive reports are not necessarily an endorsement and he receives no direct financial compensation from these companies or any others. Intel paid all expenses for his attendance at the 2009 Intel Classmate PC Ecosystem Summit which he attended as the sole representative of the technology press. He was invited to attend in 2010 but his wife would have killed him if he spent 3 days in Vegas geeking out and left her home alone with a new baby. Acer provided him with a 50% discount on an Aspire One netbook in early 2009 after he tested it for 30 days through their educational seed program. He liked the netbook at the time but it has since broken and sits unused in his office. Canonical sent him Ubuntu lanyards, t-shirts, and mousepads for his kids. He stole one of the lanyards and proudly hangs his keys from it and occasionally features his 8-year old wearing an oversized Ubuntu t-shirt on his Facebook profile. Gunnar Optiks sent him a pair of computer glasses to evaluate for a holiday gift guide. He is wearing them now as he types this because they never asked for them back and they rock out loud. Seriously - they work brilliantly and make it much easier to spend 20 hours a day staring at an LCD. If they ever asked for them back, he would fork over the $99 and buy a pair. Microsoft gave him 2 free copies of Office 2010 professional, a desktop clock, and a useless book on Office 2010 when he attended the launch of Office/Sharepoint 2010. He occasionally uses the SharePoint lanyard they gave him instead of the Ubuntu lanyard for his keys, but feels dirty afterwards. Adobe provided him with a pre-release version of the CS5 Master Collection for evaluation and ultimately provided a full, licensed copy for ongoing testing of educational applications of this admittedly expensive software. Like the Gunnars, if the license expires or they come out with CS6, he'd actually go out and buy it himself. Which is saying something, because he's actually pretty cheap. Any other companies wishing to send him cool things to evaluate, wear, or otherwise adorn his kids are more than welcome to; he promises to disclose it here if he keeps any of the stuff. Finally, because WizIQ is a virtual classroom and learning network provider, Chris, as VP of Marketing, frequently interacts with, seeks out deals with, and directly or indirectly competes with a whole lot of LMS, SIS, and other Education 2.0 companies. In general, he'll limit his reporting about these companies to news that does not impact his relationship with them or with WizIQ. If he reports on them, it's because what they are doing is newsworthy or worth the attention of his readers and not because he's trying to broker some deal, damage competition, or otherwise advance his position in his day job. LMS and SIS companies, along with other online learning communities, are a pretty important part of Ed Tech. If he stops reporting on them completely, there won't be a whole lot left. He'll be sure to call out any overt conflicts of interest if they are unavoidable. Finally, Follett Software Company pays him a little tiny honorarium every month to present on their SIS Voices webinars and to write the occasional blog or discussion thread for them. Since Follett recently bought X2 (maker of an awesome web-based SIS that Chris just happened to have used, served in advisory groups for, and frequently reported on), this is probably also worth disclosing.

Biography

Christopher Dawson

Christopher Dawson grew up in Seattle, back in the days of pre-antitrust Microsoft, coffeeshops owned by something other than Starbucks, and really loud, inarticulate music. He escaped to the right coast in the early 90's and received a degree in Information Systems from Johns Hopkins University. While there, he began a career in health and educational information systems, with a focus on clinical trials and related statistical programming and database modeling. This focus led him to several positions at Johns Hopkins, a couple-year stint in private industry, teaching high school math and technology, and 2 years as the technology director for his local school district. Most recently, he started his own consulting business and is now the Vice President of Marketing for WizIQ, Inc., a virtual classroom and learning network provider. He lives with his wife, five kids (yes, 5), 2 dogs, and a hateful cat in a small town in north-central Massachusetts. Although he is no longer teaching, his roles with WizIQ and ZDNet allow him to continue helping students and teachers add value to education with technology rather than merely adding to the bottom line.

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  • poppycock
    Open office is great when internet access is limited. In spite of what you think, there are still lots of folks without access, let alone high speed access.
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    Monkeypox
    11th May 2010
  • I think that's what he said
    Our district is fairly rural and there are still plenty of homes with only dial-up or without Internet access entirely. For these families, OpenOffice is a great choice since they rarely have access to academic pricing on Office and can??????t get online to access Apps

    I think he was saying the same thing you did.
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    John Zern
    11th May 2010
  • One Problem, John . . .
    If you don't have Internet access (or Dial-up), how are you supposed to get a copy of Open Office?
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    JLHenry
    11th May 2010
  • RE: OpenOffice is dead
    Grab a copy from a friend. Or like I did, visit a public wi-fi hotspot and download the bits.
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    Cylon Centurion
    11th May 2010
  • Get a Copy of OOo
    Or just order a free disc. Comes in the mail, no problem.
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    Snooki_smoosh_smoosh
    12th May 2010
  • Getting a copy . . .
    @Nstalnecker & JM1981:

    I guess my point is/was that NORMAL people aren't going to know to do that, or even that OO exists . . .

    Besides, I think that most people may be getting their copy of office when they buy their PC, which explains the huge number of people running older versions of Office (and Windows, as well). They won't upgrade until they buy a new PC again . . .
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    JLHenry
    12th May 2010
  • I'm never . . .
    gonna get used to the new posting system . . . . sad
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    JLHenry
    12th May 2010
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  • @JLHenry
    @John Zern can you say five dolla jump drive and public library? ok... good.
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    shadfurman
    12th May 2010
  • No, I don't think that's what he said
    @John Zern
    quote: "If someone needs a desktop office suite, then they aren??????t going to be satisfied with OpenOffice."

    quote: "For users who don??????t need Office, it??????s a rare occasion that Google Docs doesn??????t suffice. And yet for those who need Office, it??????s rare that they??????re happy with OpenOffice"

    I agree with you that's OO is a good app but Christopher more or less says it's useless.
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    Bryan G
    12th May 2010
  • @shadfurman
    Once again, someone has to KNOW about the program, AND want to drive to the library to download (and have the time to waste sitting there while it downloads . . . ).

    Please note, My comments have nothing to do with OO's quality, etc. It's just that you will NEVER see wide spread adoption of it as long as it lives in the shadows. They would be better served if they could convince someone to put free copies of the CD @ Wal-mart and Grocery stores, etc. People might actually pick it up and try it before buying MS Office. The key here is making it super easy to obtain. Putting it on an installer disc would allow it to make that jump and actually make inroads . . ..
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    JLHenry
    13th May 2010
  • RE: OpenOffice is dead
    @JLHenry: They would be better served if they could convince someone to put free copies of the CD @ Wal-mart and Grocery stores, etc.

    That's going to be tough to make happen. Wal-Mart is in it for the profits. What profit would there be if the disc's were free? Compare that to the amount of profit they'd get from selling a copy of Office 2010.
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    Badgered
    17th May 2010
  • @JLHenry - Is OpenOffice ready for market?
    I do not think that free CDs are needed as much as better advertising. However...

    It would help, tremendously, if some creatively adept developers were to bring OpenOffice (OO) out of its Word for DOS 5.0 days (okay... maybe Office for Windows 4.3) by adding functionality at least equivalent to Office 2000, XP, or 2003.

    I have OO 3.1.1 available and use it when necessary (i.e. working in LinuxMint) but otherwise avoid it because it is so clunky, functionless, and a pill to figure out. (I am not sure that OO 3.2 is any better, functionally, and it is not yet packaged for Ubuntu or LinuxMint, according to Synaptic Package Manager).

    Google Docs is quick and accessible, and it works.

    Nonetheless, before I turn in finished documents, I login to Windows XP and complete them in MS Office (2007, currently).
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    Isocrates
    24th May 2010
  • RE: OpenOffice is dead
    Havent you all forgotten the 500Mb download of Open office that no-one on a dial-up or slow line is going to bother to download. I don't think OpenOffice is dead - alive and kicking in the academic world where people can't afford Office - but it wont work for those on slow connections.
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    rdevereux
    12th May 2010
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    daengbo
    12th May 2010
  • RE: OpenOffice is dead
    Open Office is available by free CD, and available by ordering on line, or they can be found where other software and IT magazines are sold.
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    rcbarr83@...
    12th May 2010

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