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Reader mail: To Mac or not to Mac

By | September 3, 2010, 7:56am PDT

Summary: Can you justify the cost of the Mac for back-to-school or back-to-work needs?

I’ve been writing a bit more about Macs than usual lately, although it’s probably not surprising with my recent MacBook Pro purchase. However, I’ve received a fair amount of mail from readers who feel the same way I do: Macs are brilliant machines, but they’re bloody expensive and the closed ecosystem, while great for ensuring an awesome user experience, means vendor lock-in of the first degree. In the spirit of back to school, though, I figured I’d feature one reader’s email that asked the essential question that Mac-loving parents and students are often answering right about now.

Here’s what Curt Fast had to say (and ask) about an upcoming purchase:

I found another person who feels exactly as I do about Apple.

I’ve been using the Mac since MacintoshII, about 20 years or more. I am a digital retoucher/finisher and do design and creative on the side. I like you am not complaining, but need productivity out of my hardware. I hate getting raped by Apple every time I need to purchase new hardware. Recently I thought about switching to the top of the line HP since it runs smoothly with CS5, but I can’t bring myself to do it even if it is one-third the cost. So I’m looking into the laptop. I have three workstations at home because of four students who need the stations. And I’m just a working stiff who would love to get Apple to give breaks to those of us who are just trying to raise a family, be the home I.T. guy and basic guru for any computer questions teenaged girls would have.

What would you suggest? Buy another Mac laptop or go with the HP top of the line laptop? Since it’s just CS5 and office that I use.

That’s the conundrum, right? If you go strictly feature for feature, prices for PCs and Macs aren’t completely out of whack. However, the advantage that PCs offer in terms of cost is drastically greater hardware choice, allowing users to configure systems that meet their requirements without buying more PC than they need. It’s also possible to find discrete graphics and quad-core processors at relatively low prices, whereas Macs lock you into higher clock speed, dual core processors. The latter, however, improves energy savings/battery life and, since few applications make use of more than 4 threads, the higher clock speeds result in better everyday performance.

So what’s the answer? Unless you’re buying an HP Envy, I can say from experience that the HP laptops simply lack the durability of their Apple cousins. Windows 7 is a great OS, but Snow Leopard is pretty darned nice too. The Quartz graphics engine on the Macs and some of the screen options make for very rich visual experiences and, if I had to use Photoshop somewhere, I’d rather do it on a Mac.

That being said, Adobe CS5 runs like a champ on any quad-core PC with a decent graphics card and a well-configured 17″ HP Pavilion will certainly save some serious dough over a 17″ MacBook Pro.

Unfortunately, this decision will probably come down to cost for most consumers and many pros. Can you justify the extra dollars for a Mac? If you make your living on the machine and the interface resonates better with your creative soul, enhancing productivity, then yes, you probably can. If you just need a capable PC at the lowest cost, then consumer Windows laptops will get the job done.

For Mr. Fast, my money is on the Mac, since it’s an interface he knows and loves. Unfortunately for him, it’s not my money.

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Chris Dawson is a freelance writer and consultant with years of experience in educational technology and web-based systems. In 2011, he became the Vice President of Marketing for WizIQ, Inc., a virtual classroom and learning network SaaS provider.

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Christopher Dawson

Christopher Dawson is the Vice President of Marketing for WizIQ, Inc., by day and a freelance writer and educational technology consultant by night. Well, most of his colleagues at WizIQ are based in India, so really he's working with them whenever he can stay awake. He has worked for his local school district as a teacher and technology director, for the Johns Hopkins University School of Public Health, and for Biogen, Inc. (now Biogen-IDEC, Inc.). He has also consulted with STATNet and Cytyc Corporation and retains close ties with X2 Development Corporation (now owned by Follett Software, the supplier of the student information system he administered for several years). Follett is paying him a monthly honorarium to act as a presenter for their "SIS Voices for Student Achievement" community (he produces occasional blog posts and hosts a monthly webinar on the use of student information systems to inform data-driven instruction and school-wide change. He regularly purchases and/or recommends Dell hardware. This is because Dell makes good hardware and has truly committed itself to education in innovative ways, particularly with their "Connected Classroom" initiative. It isn't because he has dealings with the company through his role at WizIQ (which he does) or because they have provided him with long-term loans of a variety of equipment for in-depth testing (which they have). Intel (reference designer for the Classmate PCs he has implemented in his local schools) has provided him with long-term loans of Classmate PCs for testing, as have Dell and Lenovo with their educational offerings. He may report on any of these companies as his experiences with them have direct bearing on educational technology; positive reports are not necessarily an endorsement and he receives no direct financial compensation from these companies or any others. Intel paid all expenses for his attendance at the 2009 Intel Classmate PC Ecosystem Summit which he attended as the sole representative of the technology press. He was invited to attend in 2010 but his wife would have killed him if he spent 3 days in Vegas geeking out and left her home alone with a new baby. Acer provided him with a 50% discount on an Aspire One netbook in early 2009 after he tested it for 30 days through their educational seed program. He liked the netbook at the time but it has since broken and sits unused in his office. Canonical sent him Ubuntu lanyards, t-shirts, and mousepads for his kids. He stole one of the lanyards and proudly hangs his keys from it and occasionally features his 8-year old wearing an oversized Ubuntu t-shirt on his Facebook profile. Gunnar Optiks sent him a pair of computer glasses to evaluate for a holiday gift guide. He is wearing them now as he types this because they never asked for them back and they rock out loud. Seriously - they work brilliantly and make it much easier to spend 20 hours a day staring at an LCD. If they ever asked for them back, he would fork over the $99 and buy a pair. Microsoft gave him 2 free copies of Office 2010 professional, a desktop clock, and a useless book on Office 2010 when he attended the launch of Office/Sharepoint 2010. He occasionally uses the SharePoint lanyard they gave him instead of the Ubuntu lanyard for his keys, but feels dirty afterwards. Adobe provided him with a pre-release version of the CS5 Master Collection for evaluation and ultimately provided a full, licensed copy for ongoing testing of educational applications of this admittedly expensive software. Like the Gunnars, if the license expires or they come out with CS6, he'd actually go out and buy it himself. Which is saying something, because he's actually pretty cheap. Any other companies wishing to send him cool things to evaluate, wear, or otherwise adorn his kids are more than welcome to; he promises to disclose it here if he keeps any of the stuff. Finally, because WizIQ is a virtual classroom and learning network provider, Chris, as VP of Marketing, frequently interacts with, seeks out deals with, and directly or indirectly competes with a whole lot of LMS, SIS, and other Education 2.0 companies. In general, he'll limit his reporting about these companies to news that does not impact his relationship with them or with WizIQ. If he reports on them, it's because what they are doing is newsworthy or worth the attention of his readers and not because he's trying to broker some deal, damage competition, or otherwise advance his position in his day job. LMS and SIS companies, along with other online learning communities, are a pretty important part of Ed Tech. If he stops reporting on them completely, there won't be a whole lot left. He'll be sure to call out any overt conflicts of interest if they are unavoidable. Finally, Follett Software Company pays him a little tiny honorarium every month to present on their SIS Voices webinars and to write the occasional blog or discussion thread for them. Since Follett recently bought X2 (maker of an awesome web-based SIS that Chris just happened to have used, served in advisory groups for, and frequently reported on), this is probably also worth disclosing.

Biography

Christopher Dawson

Christopher Dawson grew up in Seattle, back in the days of pre-antitrust Microsoft, coffeeshops owned by something other than Starbucks, and really loud, inarticulate music. He escaped to the right coast in the early 90's and received a degree in Information Systems from Johns Hopkins University. While there, he began a career in health and educational information systems, with a focus on clinical trials and related statistical programming and database modeling. This focus led him to several positions at Johns Hopkins, a couple-year stint in private industry, teaching high school math and technology, and 2 years as the technology director for his local school district. Most recently, he started his own consulting business and is now the Vice President of Marketing for WizIQ, Inc., a virtual classroom and learning network provider. He lives with his wife, five kids (yes, 5), 2 dogs, and a hateful cat in a small town in north-central Massachusetts. Although he is no longer teaching, his roles with WizIQ and ZDNet allow him to continue helping students and teachers add value to education with technology rather than merely adding to the bottom line.

Talkback Most Recent of 67 Talkback(s)

  • Mac a closed ecosystem?
    Just exactly what do you mean by that? If you're talking about hardware, which it appears that you are, Apple provides a range of price points that span a fairly large range: Mini, iMac, to Mac Pro and MacBook ($850 street price), MacBook Air, to 15 and 17 MacBook Pros. So what makes you buy more hardware than you need?

    About that HP "top of the line" laptop. That's about $1800 or so and you can configure it but with how much more choice than selecting various flavors of a MacBook Pro. I mean come on, there are several levels of CPU speed and memory configurations available.

    As for software, when you buy that HP running windows, I expect that you will need to shell out about $1200 minimum for the cheapest CS5 suite because Adobe licenses are different for Windows and Mac. A Mac CS5 license is invalid for Windows and vice versa as far as I know. Adobe may offer side grades (they used to anyway) but I expect that even that will incur some costs. Ditto for Office of course.

    I have installed several open source applications on my MacBook Pro. Further, since OS-X is based on Darwin and has a X server layer, just about any open source application can be ported to the Mac with relative ease, to wit, NeoOffice, OpenOffice, Seashore (a gimp based app but toned down for new users) and several others.

    Can someone that is not a Mac hater explain this to me?

    I keep hearing about its "closed ecosystem" but have yet to figure out what people mean by that...
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    jacarter3
    3rd Sep 2010
  • I think it refers to what hardware OS X can run on
    @jacarter3

    Oops, I used the word "can" instead of "may" since OS X can run on pretty much any hardware.

    I agree with you as far as what software you can run on OS X. It isn't like iOS where Apple bans apps.

    Where you could run into problems is if you, as an organization, standardizes on OS X, you must also standardize on Apple hardware. If, on the other hand, you standardize on Linux or Windows, you aren't forced to buy hardware from any single vendor. That is vendor lock-in: standardize on OS X? You are locked into a single vendor for hardware. No other PC "ecosystem" locks you in in that way.
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    NonZealot
    3rd Sep 2010
  • Thank you NZ
    I got that and edited my post probably as you posted yours. Most corporate buyers buy from a single source anyway and unfortunately it's usually Dell (like this organization) but I have seen HP as well. I imagine that if you wish to make a volume purchase, that Apple may negotiate on a standard configuration and price.

    In any event, I still don't see this as a "closed ecosystem" anymore than buying a laptop from any vendor. If my Sony lappy hard a Mobo (Logic board for the Mac folks), I would still have to buy a replacement form Sony at whatever cost they decide on. Also, I bought my first MPB because my Sony laptops had outdated video drivers. I found newer drivers for the ATI chipset, but they would not install on the laptop because the drivers checked to see if it was a Sony and refused to install. Sony would not provide updates for the same, I guess to force me to upgrade - which I did - to a MBP. If that's a "closed ecosystem," then it's not unique to Apple my any stretch of the imagination.
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    jacarter3
    3rd Sep 2010
  • RE: Reader mail: To Mac or not to Mac
    @NonZealot
    So I buy a Mac and it comes pre-installed with OSX. So far so good right? Now I decide that I want to also run Ubuntu, therefore through Bootcamp I install the latest flavour of Ubuntu. A few months later. I decide that I also want Windows 7. So I go out and buy a legal copy of Windows and again through bootcamp I install it. If I need help, I can even go to the Apple store to help me with my installation, as long as the copy is legal. No lock in there.

    On the other hand, I purchase the latest and greatest from HP. It comes with Windows 7 pre-installed. I can also got to any Apple store or re-seller, splurge down $99 for the latest copy of OSX, no questions asked and then I can install it on my HP with some tweaking. No one is going to come knocking on my door telling me I can not install OSX on my HP. Of course I can not go to an Apple store with my latest and greatest HP and expect to get help, but we all knew that, didn't we?
    So where is the problem again?
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    MG537
    3rd Sep 2010
  • @jacarter: Switch Sony for Apple to see the problem
    Sony and refused to install. Sony would not provide updates for the same, I guess to force me to upgrade - which I did - to a MBP

    You were pissed off with Sony (probably rightfully so) so you switched hardware vendors, as is your prerogative. The story is: consumer gets pissed off at hardware vendor, consumer buys hardware from new vendor, keeps existing software infrastructure.

    Zip over to a consumer / company who has standardized on OS X and the story goes: consumer gets pissed off at hardware vendor, consumer buys hardware from new vendor, consumer must now replace all software.

    See the difference? That is unique to Apple. Apple is the only company that ties their PC OS to their PC hardware. If you standardize on OS X, you can't punish Apple in the hardware department without punishing yourself in the software department. Standardize on Linux or Windows and you can punish HP, Dell, Sony, even Apple (I run Windows on MBP) without having to pay a cent for software.

    I'm not saying this is a big deal. I'm not saying it is a small deal. It is a consideration, that's all.
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    NonZealot
    3rd Sep 2010
  • @MG: Consumer vs Corporate
    No one is going to come knocking on my door telling me I can not install OSX on my HP.

    First off, no one should be encouraging anyone to do something that is illegal. Morals and stuff.

    Second, you are probably right that as a consumer, Apple won't come after you. If you are happy hoping and praying that the latest Apple update won't destroy your OS (they've done it before, they'll do it again), then go for it.

    However, businesses simply can't take the risk. Not only is it unacceptable as far as stability is concerned (it is important to most businesses that they run supported configurations) the risk of getting sued by Apple is far greater when you are a business. Apple has sued (and successfully driven out of business) those who have dared to install OS X on non Apple hardware. For a consumer, the risk might be worth it but not for most businesses.
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    NonZealot
    3rd Sep 2010
  • It's with Apple.
    @MG537: So where is the problem again?

    It's not HP that's preventing you from installing OS X on their systems. That's exclusively Apple.
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    ye
    3rd Sep 2010
  • RE: Reader mail: To Mac or not to Mac
    @NonZealot
    I seldom say this - but I agree with you.
    The company I work for is global and buys their computers from different vendors based on local - Dell, Lenovo, Hp are tops.
    This is impossible with Apple.
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    rhonin
    3rd Sep 2010
  • RE: Reader mail: To Mac or not to Mac
    @NonZealot

    It's funny. You say hardware lock-in as if Windows users were totally free.

    But we all know that if you buy a PC with a Windows license it's locked to that hardware, YOU don't own it.

    If you build or buy a better PC you can't transfer that license.

    If you upgrade the PC with a new case, etc, to be legit you need to either buy a brand new license or cut the label off the old PC and leave it inside the new case -- and that might even be a bit grayish, legally speaking.

    Along the way I've bought or acquired with hardware every major OS/X release. And I have bought used Macs from eBay and upgraded them with those licenses, as I please.

    It seems to me some people don't even consider the Microsoft "lock-in" factor.
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    Jkirk3279
    6th Sep 2010
  • @NonZealot
    You believe that switching Apple for Sony in my last post is the same when actually is not, not by any further stretch of the imagination. The difference is that Apple still does support their older hardware with updates. This is not true for Sony or a lot of vendors that put their brand on their drivers for embedded peripherals (i.e. the ones you can't replace like the graphics chip set on a laptop). Fortunately, Apple even keeps their Windows drivers updated for Boot Camp users.

    And for the most part, just about any software for the Mac has a version or an equivalent package for Windows. Not so for Windows software which is why I am forced to still use Windows.

    I am still not really getting the "closed ecosystem" thing but thanx for trying.
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    jacarter3
    7th Sep 2010
  • 2 different philosophies
    If you come from the Windows world the Mac ecosystem will probably seem closed compared to PCs. However the important thing to understand about Macs is that you are not buying just a computer, but the tight intergration between the hardware, OS and software. And tight intergration would not be possible if OSX were to run on the crap hardware any fly-by-night manufacturers decide to use.

    Not being able to choose the hardware manufacturer is definitely a barrier for some people (especially those people who like to build their own systems.) But for the vast majority of computer users who never open up the case once they buy their computer, a mac might be a good choice. And since Macs are generally very well built and feature rich, I doubt many will have any issue at all.
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    Tigertank
    3rd Sep 2010
  • RE: Reader mail: To Mac or not to Mac
    @Tigertank
    The big problem for Apple is most businesses tend to keep their operating systems for long periods and absolutely require that new systems and OS updates be able to run old software - and I'm not talking about proprietary software.

    This is one are Apple fails in.
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    rhonin
    3rd Sep 2010
  • RE: Reader mail: To Mac or not to Mac
    I have always looked at MAC being an appliance model with subscriptions.....think about it...tight integration of hw and sw..exactly what a physical appliance is are now (in this case a portable one)....and when an appliance goes end of life...it is a brick more or less....

    MACs reputation is more or less built on precise adherence to a standard (in essence the same components as a PC these days), but they go the extra step with proper hw and sw integration, which guarantees a very highy degree of quality...which they do more of compared to DELL, Lenovo, HP et al
    from a MAC OS level it is a derivative of the BSD initiative....all good and rock solid...and this is what Apple focus is on, and in that sense not being spread thin...if MAC where to ever go away from this then they are no different to other vendors....so they must persist....

    PCs from that perspective are not as tight an integration...but the obvious issue with support of many varied flavours of components is a problem when not all vendors follow the standard to the letter of the law...or they just write crappy drivers or have crappy firmware....and I will not go into SW quality here either...sometimes it is a case of spreading yourself too thin and missing the obvious...

    btw...I like the appliance model in general....but if I want flexibility I move away from it....

    I would love to run MAX OSX in VDI..I would not think this would be a huge step.....tight integration between SW and Virtual HW (am thinking VMWare and Citrix XEN)..it aligns to the Apple model and may give them more sales...lol
    Funnily enough...I can stream XP and Windows 7 via VDI, over my iPad, iPhone and iPod right now.....iPad being the most viable...the others...just because I can...lol

    btw....I am not pro MAC by any means...
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    rbance67
    3rd Sep 2010
  • @zenwalker
    So, this compulsory backward compatibility. How come Microsoft gets a pass (from you) for not being backwards compatible and not Apple?

    Hint: Your argument is bogus.
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    zkiwi
    4th Sep 2010
  • RE: Reader mail: To Mac or not to Mac
    @zkiwi
    Not a pass.
    MS is firmly embedded into business and with the cost of IT and long term ROI Apple does not fit the "standard" business model.
    Besides, I can't see facilities in China, Singapore, Brazil, etc.... all running on macs - it's flat out cost prohibitive - and I am not talking about hardware (though that also factors in).
    Think about it...
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    rhonin
    6th Sep 2010

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