Facebook bans 20,000 accounts daily

By | March 23, 2011, 5:16pm PDT

Summary: Facebook bans 20,000 users per day for various infractions. The company requires that you are at least 13-years-old to use the social network.

Facebook chief privacy advisor Mozelle Thompson appeared before the Australian Parliament’s cyber-safety committee this week to discuss Internet-related security issues. Thanks to the event, we learned that about 20,000 users are kicked off Facebook every day for various infractions, including for lying about their age.

“There are people who lie. There are people who are under 13 [accessing Facebook],” Thompson told Federal Parliament’s cyber-safety committee, according to The Telegraph. “Facebook removes 20,000 people a day, people who are underage.”

Although the company requires its users to be at least 13-years-old, the limit is easily circumvented, like on pretty much any website on the Internet. “While the social network has mechanisms to detect liars,” Thompson admitted that “It’s not perfect”.

The original report suggested that the 20,000 accounts banned daily are all for individuals found not to be at least 13-years-old. This is not true; the number actually includes accounts deleted for any serious rule-breaking. Furthermore, it does “not include the proactive efforts that actually prevent fake or under age accounts from being created.”

“At Facebook, we take safety very seriously and we were pleased to participate in a hearing in Australia to talk about our safety policies, practices and systems,” a company spokesperson said in a statement. “As we explained in the hearing, these efforts include removing numerous accounts everyday for activities including spamming, posting inappropriate content, and violating age restrictions.”

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RE: Facebook bans 20,000 accounts daily
baconman84 6th Feb
@jmckay417 Yes seriously. Calm it down a notch.

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Nothing wrong with enforcing rules.
wackoae 23rd Mar 2011
I don't see a problem here. FB has a TOS and they are just enforcing the rules.
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RE: Facebook bans 20,000 accounts daily
Ez_Customs 25th Mar 2011
@wackoae

No kid should be on facebook and I mean no kid. Just look at how many got Abused raped and killed from MySpace.com. No matter how secure Facebook can get, there is no better protection them wise parents and respectful kids who don't take things for granted. Cell phones are more then enough, but even that is pushing freedom limits in my head
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genewitch 25th Mar 2011
@Ez_Customs [citation needed]
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@Ez_Customs agreed there should be restrictions. However we run a fly fishing business and are trying to encourage young members and Facebook is a tool to help do this, age restrictions and controls would be better than banning.
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Jimster480 25th Mar 2011
@wackoae true
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RE: Facebook bans 20,000 accounts daily
delpi98 Updated - 7th Oct
@wackoae Maybe any publicity isnt good publicity after all
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At least 13?
Economister 24th Mar 2011
And how exactly do they enforce that?
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@Economister I see what you are saying BUT... I think there are other ways to show your love for her. If she were to start drinking?? Would you just make sure she only drinks with certain people..?? Or that she ONLY drinks part of a beer each day?? I don't know.. I guess it is all in where you decide to draw the line with fly tying materials ... Seems like once we HAVE something it is hard to reverse... Sportnahrung
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Along with many of her friends. She made her profile say she was 17 and she is only going to be 12. I have informed her and her parents of this many times. I think I shall share this information with her and her parents once again.

Besides she is not very safe on FB and posts revealing information about herself. I have tried to correct that too with not much luck.
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dirtyfarmer 24th Mar 2011
I think I would just report the account... Her Parents never have to know...
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blueskip Updated - 24th Mar 2011
@dirtyfarmer Wow. Nice way to stay out the business of other family members. I remember giving a few choice words to my uncle for having me locked up on Christmas for "juvenile delinquency". Are you freakin' kidding me??? Glad he's dead now. I smiled a deep and wide smile when I found out he was dying from cancer - a slow and PAINFUL death. Horrible? Yeah, well so was spending Christmas in jail at 16 years old. He was a cop so he got them to bend to the rules to keep me there.

Food for thought pal.
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@blueskip

Wow!! So you broke the law and your Uncle, the cop, upheld and he is the jerk? Sounds like you should have stayed in jail.
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RE: Facebook bans 20,000 accounts daily
jmckay417 Updated - 24th Mar 2011
@blueskip you're not right in the head buddy. You feel like dying from cancer is an appropriate punishment to putting a kid in jail for one day because you broke the law? Go get help, society doesn't need people like you.
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charlieg1 24th Mar 2011
@dirtyfarmer
done that! fb felt the account was from a older girl as per the faked BD used.
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@blueskip
but I never believed people like you would come here to post.
Be happy he bent the rules and had you locked up for "juvenile delinquency", as I have a feeling whatever you did was alot worse and he was doing you a favor.
You'd hate prison from what I here.
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charlieg1 Updated - 24th Mar 2011
@bobiroc

good luck with that! i'm going though the very same thing. only it's my 12 year old grand daughter, my daughter states she dosen't have a FB, bs it's under a different name.
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Jimster480 25th Mar 2011
@charlieg1 EVERYONE has a facebook, even people who don't have facebook wink
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Jimster480 25th Mar 2011
@bobiroc I am sure there are lots of young girls on FB who lie about their age. Facebook is "cool", and everyone wants to be "cool".
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Sawyer7271 Updated - 25th Mar 2011
Every one of my daughter's middle-school class has an account, most are 12 years old... she just turned 13. As a parent, I have complete control of her account, and get emails on every post, every comment, and have her password. We discuss with her what to share, and why not to share some information. We've banned some of her classmates, and even notified their parents when inappropriate stuff is posted. Computers in our house are all in one room, and we do this stuff together. In addition, we use openDNS to limit inappropriate content.

The bottom line: Parents: be open and honest with your kids, trust but verify... We need to teach them right from wrong and allow them to make their own mistakes. We can't protect them 24/7, but we can arm them to protect themselves.
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bobiroc 25th Mar 2011
@Sawyer7271

Very well said and you sound like a great parent. The kind parent my parents are. This is the exact point I have been trying to make. You cannot (and should not) keep them in the dark about the dangers in the world but teach them about it and guide them to be smart, safe, and responsible people so they can protect themselves.
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and told her about this and emailed her the link to the Article about it. She told me one of my niece's friends got banned because she lied about her age but then when she turned 13 recently changed her age from 18 to 13 and they caught it and banned her account.
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Jimster480 25th Mar 2011
@bobiroc yea i bet its how they find it. If you change your bday then they know lol
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@bobiroc Yea it happens all the time. Just gotta start with a fake age.
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Your account profile has a section to delete friends or BLOCK users. When you use this it WILL ask you for a "reason". I don't see why reponsible relatives don't do this when irresponsible parents don't.
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@kd5auq

I thought about doing that but decided against it. Just doing my best as her Uncle to keep an eye on what she posts. She tells me that I am just a worry wart but I tell her I am a realist. I work in IT and for a High School District no less and kids are so naive and have the attitude that it won't happen to them. Her parents are divorced but I got through to her dad more than her mom (my sister). Recruited my nephew (her brother) who is 17 and he said he made her delete like 200 friends that she did not really know and he said he set her privacy settings for her and removed a bunch of apps.
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paul.hohmann@... 24th Mar 2011
What about the ethical issues of lying? Do her parents accept that?
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bobiroc 24th Mar 2011
@paul.hohmann

I guess they do. I think it is my sister that is the problem. She is not tech saavy at all and rarely uses the computer and has a hard enough time figuring out the concept of email. So instead of taking an active role to make sure her kids are safe she turns a blind eye.

Of course this is the same parent that bought Grand Theft Auto III for her 8 year old son (now 17) that when I found out I literally took the game away from him. She told me that it was just a video game and even after pointing out the game's rating she said it was not a big deal. I asked her if it is ok for him to watch late night skin flics on HBO and Showtime then and she said absolutely not. That is the same thing I said.

I am not the parent so I cannot take that role but will do my best to keep my niece and anyone I can safe in the world of social networking. Sometimes it is a futile battle but I am not gonna give up.
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dirtyfarmer 24th Mar 2011
I see what you are saying BUT... I think there are other ways to show your love for her. If she were to start drinking?? Would you just make sure she only drinks with certain people..?? Or that she ONLY drinks part of a beer each day?? I don't know.. I guess it is all in where you decide to draw the line... Seems like once we HAVE something it is hard to reverse...
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sissy sue Updated - 24th Mar 2011
@bobiroc
I don't disagree with you, but I'd just like to make a few points. If high schoolers are naive (and they are), then why does Facebook require a minimum age of 13? Why not 18? Why not 21? Facebook's popularity is what makes it a perfect target for pervs and scammers. It seems to me that the Internet is increasingly becoming a no-go zone for minors, and that's a shame. There is so much good on the Internet that I would regret having to deny children access simply because of an evil 1%.

I applaud your nephew for looking after his sister. He sounds like a great kid. He'll make a great Dad someday. I admire the fact that he didn't sneak around her, but dealt with her face-to-face. Communication is key in dealing with young people. I think if parents (big brothers and sisters, aunts, uncles, etc.) talk honestly with the child and point out the dangers, the child will be much more willing and less resistant to their efforts to protect them.
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@dirtyfarmer

I get what you are saying too but there is a big difference in breaking the law with underage drinking than a 12 year old using FB. Instead of alienating her I am doing my best to teach her to be safe and respect the internet. I hope that will be more valuable later in life instead of punishing her. She was mad at me initially but we have had a couple talks privately about the issue and I think she is beginning to understand.
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bobiroc Updated - 24th Mar 2011
@sissy sue

You are exactly right. It is those reasons we pretty much block our kids, in the high school I work for, from using social networking, IM, email and other forms of communication to the outside world we cannot monitor or control. There are many risks with these types of technologies and I find it very sad that I see many parents content to not be involved.

My father is a retired Homicide Detective and even back in the day of dial up internet both my mom and dad kept tabs on what we did on the web and limited our time and had our passwords to get on. The same applied to TV and video games. They were very involved in what we were doing and hanging out with. Of course that was before cellphones, high speed/always on internet, and online gaming. It may take some effort but the information to keep your kids safe is out there and not hard to implement.

Last time I worked on my sister's family computer I implemented a good firewall and changed all the kids accounts (including my now 17 year old nephew) to restricted accounts. Implemented the Microsoft Family safety web filter and locked down their computers. Boy were they mad at me (at first).

But you are right, you cannot completely lock them out because of the chance of threats. I find it better to teach them safety and inform them rather than keeping them in the dark. You just have to do it in steps.

There are many things my sister does with her children that I do not agree with. She lets her lack of understanding of technology get in the way of better judgment. I mean I even showed her how she could monitor the cell phone usage and restrict it on her 12 year old daughter. To be honest I do not see why a 12 year old needs their own cell phone in the first place but I guess it is the sign of the times. If you are going to let them have one you have to set guidelines and take steps for their safety. Same goes with anything else. They may think they know it all but they do not.
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MrElectrifyer 24th Mar 2011
@bobiroc I work in IT and for a High School District no less and kids are so naive and have the attitude that it won't happen to them

way off topic but that is a great description of the thoughts of most Unix derivative user when it comes to the OS talk wink lol.
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@kd5auq I get what you are saying too but there is a big difference in breaking the law with underage drinking than a 12 year old using FB. Instead of alienating her I am doing my best to teach her to be safe and respect the internet. I hope that will be more valuable later Kindle 4 Black Friday
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A couple of my children--over 13--have been banned several times with no explanation other than that they should read the TOS and find out what they did wrong. They did nothing wrong, nothing against the TOS. Period. It would not be difficult for FB to include in the email a statement of the supposed violation. We emailed and asked them to reinstate. They did without comment.
A friend of mine was banned because he is a fast reader and would jump from page to page so quickly that they thought he was a bot.
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jmckay417 24th Mar 2011
@pdf6161 Jump from page to page so quickly they thought he was a bot? No chance, ever. No website looks for bots to be roaming their site at anywhere close to human speeds of clicking. I doubt you could even get flagged as a bot if you sat on facebook and clicked links WITHOUT reading anything, as fast as you possibly could. You're making up a whopper of a story with that one.
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@jmckay417
Probably not a good idea to accuse a stranger of lying.
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@jmckay417 Yes seriously. Calm it down a notch.

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orangemike 24th Mar 2011
They blocked my daughter (who is over 13) because they didn't believe her small (public) high school was a real school, or something of the sort.
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Chronological 24th Mar 2011
They're doing their job. No problem to me, this is commendable.
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judgesinel@... 24th Mar 2011
I would not use facebook if you paid me, why would I want to put all my personal photographs and comings and goings and general home information and thoughts for anyone who persuades/pesters me to add them on, to see? this surely gets out of control?
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jmckay417 24th Mar 2011
@judgesinel@... Another stupid anti-facebook person. You put whatever you want to put on facebook, it's not like they gouge you for all your personal information. You could put your name as "Jane Doe" with no pictures and no information. Explain to me how personal information being on the site is facebooks fault at all and not just stupid people putting up too much info.
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Herbalite Updated - 24th Mar 2011
@jmckay417

Friends and acquaintances, who might not be that social networking savvy link to you, might reveal more about you than you like. Even if privacy settings are all proper for each and everyone, how can you be completely sure that some attacker will not succeed in getting into any of your friends account, and ultimately learn more about you than you like?

Assuming you are the most honorable person that is alive, you still might be identified to have some connection to a group that is on a blacklist somewhere.

Unrealistic? No! People have been kicked out of countries, just because they had the wrong social network connections.

The problem is not how much you reveal about yourself, but how much your connections reveal about you by simply linking up with you.
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AirBoss Updated - 24th Mar 2011
They (and the SEC and FINRA) should forcibly ban stock touts and "pump and dump" scammers.
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capek@... 24th Mar 2011
This seems like a really good reason not EVER to use Facebook Connect to log on to other systems: if you're at any risk for losing your Facebook account, why risk losing access to everything else?
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terry flores 24th Mar 2011
@capek@...

Wise words! I had no idea FB kicked people off for goofy stuff like this.
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I think that I have the best story about someone getting banned. It happened to a friend's father. He's in his late 60's. He didn't want to share any personal information, so he used his dog's name and picture for his account. He got banned - because he was a dog! We called him "Old Dog" for six months.

I don't have much use for Facebook. Most of my friend's kids are in their late teens/early 20's now. I can't believe the things that they post on their profiles. I spoke to a friend's daughter about hers. The kid was actually posting about smoking weed and taking mushrooms. Besides the obvious legal consequences, I asked her if she ever intended on working in her lifetime. These kids post pictures of themselves absolutely wasted and then expect to get a job later on. Who is going to hire them? I just shake my head...
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bobiroc Updated - 24th Mar 2011
@Muttz

I shake my head too sometimes. Working in a high school we have blown the lid on many things thanks to facebook and other sites like MySpace. Teenagers posting pictures with alcohol and cigarettes in their hand. Making threats to beat up another kid at school. There is a long list but I think my favorite is the kid we caught with nearly $10,000 of stolen technology equipment at his home. Stupid kid posted pictures of computers, laptops, and LCD projectors on his MySpace page and the School's asset stickers and inventory numbers were clearly visible. Another student ratted him out of course but once the police saw that the warrant was easy to obtain. The kid was 17 and I believe should be finishing up his 5 year sentence he got for grand theft sometime next year.

I use FB (obviously) but tend to think I use it for it's original purpose of social networking. I find it very useful to communicate with family that live in different states and to see pictures of what is going on. I have also reconnected with old friends that moved away or I just lost touch with. I avoid ALL the games on there and only like a handful of businesses and organizations that I know are legit. Too many have their lives lost to FB unfortunately.
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@bobiroc it's -> its
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bobiroc 28th Mar 2011
@????:

Thanks grammar police. When you are perfect you can correct me. Sometimes I post replies from my iPhone and auto-correct changes things.

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