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Does God read Facebook? Religion and business on social networks may not mix

By | December 1, 2009, 11:15am PST

Summary: An increasing amount of people are taking to online fellowship via social networks, but is that a hindrance to business relationships?

“Dear God, I ask you for the strength to fight the demons in my daily life, and the courage to show those around me who haven’t yet found their way to You, the truth and the light.’”

That’s a heck of a status message, no? If you share the same faith and methods of fellowship as this Facebook user, perhaps you might reply to it with a resounding “Hosanna!” But if you don’t, would this make you uncomfortable? Or, even more important, how would this impact your relationship if you did business with this person?

Personal expression through social networks is a slippery slope for any relationship, and especially those based in business. There’s been a lot written about the hazards of posting drunk photos or complaints about bosses on social networks. Business users are continually struggling with how much information they should put online out of fear of it impacting business relationships. Yet, still many don’t factor in religions considerations and the potential side effects of spiritual messages — or even proselytizing. But as more people begin to integrate their personal and business networks on social sites, and the “walled garden” of Facebook becomes more flexible, there are questions that any God-fearing user should ask him- or herself. Should you set privacy settings? Should you keep networks only social? Or, should you keep your prayer offline to begin with; does God even read Facebook?

“Frankly, my feeling is you should act the same on social media venues as you do in business meetings,” said Heather Logrippo, publisher of Distinctive Homes Magazine.  “I would not talk about politics, religion or my sex life in a business meeting and thus, will keep my status updates on Facebook clear of anything that could be considered offensive. The point in using social media is to broaden my exposure and chances of connecting with people, not isolating them.”

Logrippo said that of her 1,300 Facebook friends, roughly 75 percent of them are potential clients. She said that she does have one potential client that is always posting not-so-subtle religious status messages.

“While I know that there is no harm meant, it does make me uncomfortable,” she said.

Logrippo shares the same concerns as many others with whom I have spoken:

  • If a user is that outspoken about chosen religion, will there be judgment against those not of the same religion?
  • Some users claim to only use social networks as a social tool, but then shouldn’t they disconnect from business contacts.
  • If you do block a feed, then you always remember that contact as someone you filtered out. Furthermore, if you unfriend someone due to blatant relgious expression, how do you explain it without offending them (even if you were first offended)?

Not everyone shares Logrippo’s opinion, however. Robin Hardy, business consultant and motivational expert, said that as a business building expert she encourages her clients to be personal. That includes including faith-based messages on social networks where business contacts might exist.

“I myself put up Bible verses, prayer, what God is doing in my life and it has actually increased my business,” Hardy said. “Why should people draw the line with their faith when they are open to use profanity and sexual content and no one seems to mind?  People place their party photos where they are drunk as a skunk and no one minds.”

Next: Is it ever OK to pray online? –>

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Jennifer Leggio, aka "Mediaphyter," writes about the "social business" side of social media - including enterprise, security and reputation issues.

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Jennifer is also involved with Silicon Valley Tweet-Up, a philanthropic networking event that brings people together to raise money for local family-oriented charities.

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Jennifer Leggio

Jennifer Leggio (@mediaphyter) has been a communications professional for more than 15 years, focusing primarily on enterprise technology and security. She is currently the director of strategic communications for a leading network security vendor. Jennifer is also passionate about all things social media, especially enterprise, security, privacy and reputation issues, which is why she writes about these things for ZDNet.

A well-connected communicator, Jennifer has led or supported interactive social networking efforts for security industry conferences including RSA Conference, Black Hat USA and SOURCE Conference, and founded the Security Twits, a community for network security professionals. She also helps run communications for the Security Bloggers Network.

Finally, Jennifer co-hosts the Quick'n'Dirty social media podcast with Aaron Strout, is a founding member of Technically Women, a communal blog project, and manages marketing and public relations for Silicon Valley Tweet-Up, a networking group that raises money for family-oriented charities. Jennifer was profiled in Silicon Valley San Jose Business Journal's "40 Under 40" edition, as a rising star for 2009.

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good idea about facebook
gavin.chan 2nd Oct
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Isn't this a universal problem...
JB King 1st Dec 2009
People have put various signs and markings on their lawns and cars for years and this is merely putting that on-line in the same way, IMO. It may work well for some and backfire for others. This is a classic, "Damned if you do" and "Damned if you don't," problem.

If this is different, I'd like to know how, other than it may be easy to not notice my bumper stickers, of which I have none but others have all kinds of stuff.
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In my life experience, the louder a person brags about being Christian, the worse human being they are.

Your life experience my be different.

In any event, I don't want to hear about the religious beliefs of business associates. Go talk about it on MySpace.
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They pray for you on Sundays...
Feldwebel Wolfenstool 1st Dec 2009
...then they prey ON you, Monday to Saturday.

Religious Freedom is Freedom from Religion.
Whatever people pray for at their own home or in their churches is their business. I don't see any reason why they would have the need or the urgency to do that anywhere else.

Mixing religion with business is also not a good idea, because it doesn't convey a sincere message. Selling a product is about earning money, not about pleasing a particular God. Anyone, who doesn't belong to your religion, would find your religious appeal highly annoying as well.
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And you are concerned...
bjbrock 1st Dec 2009
about your faith annoying someone? That speaks volumes.
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Yes, I am concerned
Tom62 2nd Dec 2009
"One man's religion is another man's belly laugh." (Robert Heinlein)

My faith in the Flying Spaghetti Monster has been riduled many, many times by unbelievers. From the teachings of His Holy Noodleness it is clear that all these blasphemers will burn in a lake of bolognese sauce till the end of time.
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So I perceive your concern....
bjbrock 2nd Dec 2009
is being laughed at or riduled, (whatever riduled is, perhaps you meant ridiculed). Truly a much worse fate than being fed to the lions. I can understand your fear now.
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I don't see any reason...
whoflungdung 3rd Dec 2009
"...why they would have the need or the urgency to do that anywhere else"

Sure they do, (at least in their minds it makes sense) they are in fact urged to 'promote the faith' (hence 3rd world missionaries) by actively preaching it to the world and to other non believers in general.

Sometimes it appears there aspirations are more about global prothlytising over providing help & communal services.
?Most people, especially non-believers, want to do business with those that are faith-based as they tend to have a label of integrity ? so [the non-believers] know business will be as business should be, most of the time.?

Jim and Tammy Bakker
Ted Haggard
Jimmy Swaggart

Shall I name more religious frauds who have no integrity? I see a crook when I see a bible thumper and would never engage in a business deal with them.
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And I bet they aren't...
bjbrock 1st Dec 2009
worried whether you would or wouldn't.
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All religions are fraud
deaf_e_kate 2nd Dec 2009
amen
They sell you a product of faith and promise stuff but never deliver.

They sell tall tails and ignorant superstition as fact.

They talk about love while preaching hate and intolerance.

If that is not a scam, what is it?
God knows everything Past, Present, and Future. Facebook is also in those catagories, so I know God knows of Facebook. God has many ways to communicate with everyone, on His Own timing.

-moonshadow^..^
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Why are there....
Feldwebel Wolfenstool 1st Dec 2009
...no dinosaurs in The Bible?
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Because there doesn't...
bjbrock 1st Dec 2009
need to be.
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ha!
whoflungdung 3rd Dec 2009
That's a funny decry. But by that logic there also doesn't have to be *other* (fantasy) mythical animals listed in the bible either, but there they are, and some listed many times, and despite all the references there is no physcial evidence for them. Here are a few:

Unicorns, cockatrice, witches, wizards, dragons, satyr.
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Have you...
iTeaBoy 2nd Dec 2009
...read The Bible?
God knows everything Past, Present, and Future. Facebook is also in those catagories, so I know God knows of Facebook. God has many ways to communicate with everyone, on His Own timing.
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Delusion is endemic to the religious
deaf_e_kate 2nd Dec 2009
or are you just a troll?
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And based purely on your posts...
iTeaBoy 2nd Dec 2009
... one could conclude that intolerance and stereotyping are endemic to the non-religious.
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intolerance and stereotyping
deaf_e_kate 2nd Dec 2009
Intolerant? how? Anyone who believes in faeries, unicorns etc are deluded and the same goes for non-existant super natural beings - thats just a fact, not intolerance.
Stereotyping? Where?
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Actually, it is not a fact
aep528 2nd Dec 2009
There is no empirical evidence proving OR
disproving the existence of a higher being. So
yes, it is intolerance and stereotypical because
you have no proof to indicate religious believers
are "deluded".
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you cant prove something does not exist
deaf_e_kate 2nd Dec 2009
its a fact until someone proves he/she does exist. so to believe in something that has no proof of existence is deluded.
The onus is on the deluded to prove it exists.
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Russels Teapot anyone?
whoflungdung Updated - 3rd Dec 2009
"There is no empirical evidence proving OR
disproving the existence of a higher being."


So based on this sole criteria, why is it rational to conclude said being exists?

Using this rationale, it's akin to saying, 'there is no emprical evidence proving OR disproving the existance of a celestial teapot for which we have zero evidence for.'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell's_teapot

But no rational person would conclude believing in something in the absence of evidence is logical.

And lets not forget, that your claim of a 'higher being' is one of an extraordinary level. And to paraphrase Carl Sagan, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Therefore it translates that merely normal evidence will not suffic for belief in said proposition.

"no proof to indicate religious believers
are "deluded"


I do, and really all one need to is take a cursory look over the history of religions and the actions permitted under them to understand the close link between otherwise rational people acting utterly illogical or allowing for despotism for sake of religious beliefs. The Branch Davidians were a group of highly confessed religous folk and their acts were deluded. The acts of 'bo and Peep' who formed the 'Heavens Gate' cult and urged many other followers to drink poison, were deluded. The events of 9-11 were committed by people w/ a religious commitment under the condition that they were doing 'gods work' and would be rewarded in 'heaven' where they would be given '72 virgins'.
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Jesus! This reminds me...
Feldwebel Wolfenstool 1st Dec 2009
...I have to send my letter off to Santa Claus at the North Pole.
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You obviously don't understand...
bjbrock 1st Dec 2009
the faith of someone that puts God above all else. Someone that "gets" to go to church instead of "has" to go to church. At the risk of offending you, if putting your faith out in front of everything you do concerns you you need to take a look at your faith. If you are worried that your faith may offend someone you need to take a look at your faith.

I hope when I stand before God some day he doesn't ask me if I was too embarrasses by Him to put Him in something so tiny as a social media message, no matter what someone else's belief was.

But after reading your post, I can see why you might hesitate to put your faith out there. You obviously don't have enough of it to profess it to everyone. It's only those people that don't have true faith that are worried they may offend someone by their faith. No matter who it is.

And anyone that has faith isn't going to care what you think about it anyway. Their faith trumps all and they are especially going to profess it in their business dealings.

This is a sad post. I hope I never get to the point where I'm worried about my faith offending someone.

It appears there are more important things in your life than your faith.
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My opinion . . .
CobraA1 1st Dec 2009
If my religious beliefs affects my relationship with a business, then quite simply I never wanted to work for or with them in the first place.

In addition, religious discrimination is illegal. It's a lot more dangerous for a business to look at my religious beliefs than it is for me to express them openly.
I don't see a distinction. My faith is what makes me
who I am. I don't throw it on people but it will come
up in casual conversation. i.e. "I was leading a bible
study the other night and this guy told me the
funniest joke."

It's funny that when a person of faith brings up their
faith it's inappropriate but if a guy talks about how
his 3rd divorce is the worst of all three that's
acceptable conversation in a business relationship.

If it weren't for the my knowledge of God then I
wouldn't understand the above.
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My faith is what makes me who I am
deaf_e_kate 2nd Dec 2009
thats a sad thing to say as it demeans your family and their input to your upbringing.

Do you think you'd be different if you didn't have faith? I doubt you would be. You don't need faith in an non-existent being to be good.
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Give me a break
cornpie 1st Dec 2009
I'm not religious myself, but how is someone talking about their religion any worse than people making dumb a$$ posts about their cats? How about drooling over the latest celebrity doings (as in who's doing who)? And what about the all time leading subject on the web: Porn? Is religion really that bad?
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Porn doesn't discriminate
imetcyndi 1st Dec 2009
Historically, most religions have promoted discriminations.
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I'm not so certain.
CobraA1 1st Dec 2009
There are so many stereotypes and wives tales
surrounding religion these days, that it's hard
to find somebody who truly has a grip on what
religion is and what is really taught by
religions.

A favorite tactic of people who don't like
religion is to ignore the difference between
what a religion really teaches, and pretend
some really bad historical events are an
accurate reflections of what religions teach.

I'd say that most religions do not actually
teach discrimination, even if
discrimination has sometimes happened.

Just because some religions have some black
spots in their history doesn't mean that's what
they teach.
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You have to be kidding
deaf_e_kate 2nd Dec 2009
They do teach discrimination by saying that their religion is the only true religion.

Don't cherry-pick what you want to believe from the good book, you know the one that glories in genocide, homophobia, misogyny etc. Take the 9/11 killers, they followed their religion to the ultimate as they were true believers in their good book. What about the people in Waco and their beliefs.
Belief in a supernatural being is all delusion, i don't think any believer really knows why they believe. its all so sad that they waste their lives.
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I'm not.
CobraA1 2nd Dec 2009
"They do teach discrimination by saying that their religion is the only true religion."

That's ultimately a belief about the nature of God, not a belief about how we treat other people.

"Don't cherry-pick what you want to believe from the good book, you know the one that glories in genocide, homophobia, misogyny etc."

Considering you haven't even named the religion you're talking about, you could be talking about anything, including atheism.

And you're just proving my point about people confusing what religions teach and what people practice.

"What about the people in Waco and their beliefs."

I was careful enough to say "most" religions, not "all" religions.

There are plenty of examples of religions being peaceful. Hinduism and Buddhism are commonly cited as examples of peaceful religions. Some denominations of Christianity and Islam are more peaceful than others.

IMHO it's pretty unfair to lump all religions in a group like that. Many religions have had both peaceful times and less peaceful times.

"Belief in a supernatural being is all delusion"

A totally unprovable assertion.

"i don't think any believer really knows why they believe."

Wow. You totally contradicted yourself there.

By definition, a believer is somebody who believes something. If they didn't know what they believed, they wouldn't be a believer.

"its all so sad that they waste their lives."

No more wasteful than people who go around believing that ultimately the universe will fizzle out into nothing but low levels of energy and that ultimately nothing you do will matter.

Frankly, I've found that people who believe they can make a difference are far less wasteful and far more productive than those who don't. Religion provides a solid ground for that belief.
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deaf_e_kate 3rd Dec 2009
"Considering you haven't even named the religion you're talking about, you could be talking about anything, including atheism."
1. The Abrahamic religions, bible, koran etc., you knwo, the ones that cause most wars and generate most hatred.
2. Atheism is not a religion.

"And you're just proving my point about people confusing what religions teach and what people practice."
1. Religions preach intolerance, morals are driven by secular and social attitudes that negate religious preaching.

"By definition, a believer is somebody who believes something. If they didn't know what they believed, they wouldn't be a believer."
1. you obviously didn't understand the meaning of what i said and when you analyse it properly you'll see its not a contraction.

"A totally unprovable assertion."
1. No proof required, the "believers" have to prove it.

"Some denominations of Christianity and Islam are more peaceful than others."
1. This just means they do not follow their religous book to the letter hence cherry pick what they follow. This is in some instances a good thing if they follow a secular moral path. You don't need religion to be moral. All morals are determined by society and not religion (thank goodness)
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Is religion really that bad?
deaf_e_kate 2nd Dec 2009
yes, until it gets relegated to the same importance that a football team fan club has in the running of a country. If people must believe in a delusion to ge through life, it should be up to them to waste their own time and not inflict it on anyone else.
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Judging Others
iTeaBoy 2nd Dec 2009
Quote from the article...

If a user is that outspoken about chosen religion, will there be judgment against those not of the same religion?

Aren't you now judging them?

If we all judged ourselves a little more harshly and were more understanding/accepting of each other, the world would be a much happier place
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all the deluded gave up believing in a non-existent being.
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Beliefs
iTeaBoy Updated - 2nd Dec 2009
So you believe that there is no such being as 'God'?

It's great that you are so passionate and sure (zealous even) about your belief.

But don't you think there's room for being a little more tolerant and accepting of those who may have other beliefs?
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its not a belief
deaf_e_kate 2nd Dec 2009
i'm tolerant of them having delusions as long as they do not impinge on the running of government policy, economics etc but unfortunately they do. So they are target for criticism from all angles.
What would you do if your government representative said he believed in Faeries or Unicorns?
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That's the joy of democracy and elected representatives.

The hope/intention is that they represent the masses - so if the majority of people believe in fairies and unicorns there'll be a larger representation of people with the same belief in government influencing policies with a fairy/unicorn believing bias. That's a rather simple summation of govenrment/politics and social behaviour but it's the guts of it.

BTW if it's not a belief what is it? You obviously think/believe/know there is no God because you say those who do are delusional.
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?Faith is no reason?
deaf_e_kate 2nd Dec 2009
Its not a "belief" that there is no higher being, basically until someone provides evidence of a higher being then its a delusion.
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Please do share it.
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Provide proof there is......
deaf_e_kate 3rd Dec 2009
its amazing how many people do not understand that you cannot prove the non-existence of something does not exist. you basically have no argument.

Its up to the ones who have faith to prove existence and not upto rational people to prove it does not exist.
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Let me rephrase the question...

Please provide proof of your assertion that people who believe in God are delusional.
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Easy to understand
deaf_e_kate 3rd Dec 2009
If you believe in something that doesn't exist then you are delusional about it. There are plenty of asylums full of people who believe in non-existent entities, its just that religious belief gets a free ticket.
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A crazy quote
john.lemme@... 2nd Dec 2009
?Most people, especially non-believers, want to do business with those that are faith-based as they tend to have a label of integrity..."

Uh, no. Especially the word "especially".
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The Epitome of Secularism
rjacksix 2nd Dec 2009
The idea that someone's religious views makes others "uncomfortable" has nothing to do with the medium. There was a time I (and still is with many) when the integral presence and providence of God are inherent and acknowledge in every aspect of life. While no one should offend, I think that there is absolutely nothing wrong with letting that attitude carry on into the cyberworld as well.

People that get uncomfortable probably need to read their own rantings on tolerance.

(IMHO)
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it makes them uncomfortable because
deaf_e_kate 2nd Dec 2009
can you trust a decision to be made for sensible and sound reasons when the decision maker prays to nothing for an answer? That is the scariest thing ever - look at Bush and Blair as examples
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good idea about facebook
gavin.chan 2nd Oct
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