Quora content quality quelled by its own constituents

Summary: Quora attempts to make conversations more meaningful but cannot escape the social media popularity contest.

Co-authored with Jennifer Leggio

Have you ever been camping during the summer somewhere that happens to be notorious for it's yellow jacket population. You know, those little winged friends of ours that bite and sting? It's noon and you get out some hot dogs, burgers or veggie patties to throw on the grill and cook up for everyone. You then place said finished grilled product onto a plate, ready to enjoy and share with others. You turn around for one second and the buzzing "visitors" start pouring in, ready to devour what you just finishing cooking, swarming all over it, ruining it for everyone else. Sound familiar? (Social, ahem, media.)

While the freedom to say what you want when you want it as quickly as you want is one of the famed beauties of communities built by today's social network environments, it is also its cancerous bane. The line between meaningful engagement/resourceful conversation and everyone's apparent built-in desire to market the living hell out of themselves without evaluating their own value as a contributor, is as blurry as your longest evening at the local pub.

We recently joined the Quora community in hopes that we could FINALLY be part of a new approach to a social community that was less noisy, asking more intriguing questions about social business as well as many other topics (music, hockey, you name it). Quickly, Quora is a question and answer platform that leverages a person's social graph to share information. It also includes a bit of crowdsourcing, as it allows users to vote up and vote down answers. Given all of this, and much to our dismay, and unfortunately lack of surprise, the signal to noise ratio was already out of control. We felt as if we walked into a yellow jacket-infested barbecue, with swirls of noise buzzing around our heads and the obvious chore of having to dig for hidden gems.

The good news about Quora: the gems are there. For example, Lucretia Pruitt has a great topic called "Welcome to Quora: Do Yourself a Favor and Slow Down." This must-read was her attempt to squelch some of the noise, some of the mis-use and some of the craziness. The problem was that we really had to dig to find this little gem. Here are the main problems with Quora:

  • Redundancy: Several of the same questions asked different ways, making any potential value split
  • Sarcasm: We're two of the most sarcastic people on the planet, but while looking at answers we want to find value, not snark. Beyond that, people are up-voting answers they think are "funny" versus "valuable"
  • Spammy: While you can change your email notification settings, the tricky "auto-follow" of folks from other services gets messy
  • Did we mention noise?

There's one other problem that we see with this approach. As Quora leverages an existing user's social graph, each user is pretty much just porting in its existing contacts. This not only makes it exceedingly hard to find new resources and contacts and experts, but makes it so that the most "popular" users on other platforms are automatically the most "popular" users here. This makes it harder for people looking for fresh answers and ideas to find them. When Twitter really hit the mainstream three years ago, one of the most exciting parts of it was the discovery of new users. Now, has the average overgrown social graph of most users diminished that fun in discovery? It's not just about popularity (and no, we aren't jealous). This goes back to the value conversation. If a person with a larger social graph posts an answer, that is more likely to get voted up out of popularity principle than the answer of a lesser known contributor. And, if social media has taught us anything, it's that the person with the loudest megaphone is rarely the most valuable voice. Quora exacerbates this issue.

The other question we ask is, now that social networks have become such relied-upon personal branding and corporate marketing vehicles, is it possible for a service like Quora to really get off the ground without becoming wholly bastardized? The problem with everyone exploiting new social applications for marketing is that useful conversations became out of whack in minutes. Like the bees to our campground bbq, the social media types with their incessant quest to push their own personal brand swarmed Quora with a vengeance, populating it with questions that were as unique to read as a corporate press release from 1982.

Given that there are so many who cannot for the life of themselves contribute to a conversation without up-selling their own blog, business, or otherwise, will Quora quickly succumb to its own hype? To us, these issues are indicative of chasm that stands between platforms for true thought leadership and platforms for screaming from the mountaintops. We'd like to see Quora be the former, but sadly, it's becoming the latter.

What solves this problem? Well, we will concede that the concept of Quora's crowdsourced Q&A is a good start, but clearly that went awry awfully fast. The great tools and accessibility that social media has brought to the top of the net communication heap demand a whole new level of tending to if we want to be able to keep them useful for anyone. Some elevated type of moderation that seeks out redundancy, blatant self-marketing and other unfiltered noise is a good idea. If this isn't explored, it is a guarantee that the more cautious adopters of social media practices for business, especially those that are still on the fence about its value, may retreat.

What do you think?

Topic: Social Enterprise

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  • Amen!

    One of the best posts on Quora I've read so far...you are so right about the popularity thing. It's just a big, confusing echo chamber to me, filled with all the same voices I already read other places....with links back to all the same content I already see on Twitter, etc. And I cannot get past the fact that it's all edited.
    maggielmcg@...
    • RE: Quora content quality quelled by its own constituents

      @maggielmcg@... - "echo chamber" is a perfect description. Thanks for the comment!
      Rich Harris
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  • Hopeful the SNR can be controlled

    Great summation of Quora. I am hopeful that the Signal to Noise ratio will prove to be controllable enough to make the platform useful. For those of us in Agriculture I see the opportunity to address questions about farming.
    raylindairy
  • RE: Quora content quality quelled by its own constituents

    My first question(iPad user behavior related), <a href="http://bit.ly/hIOj8W" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/hIOj8W</a> on Quora had pretty good engagement, learned a lot, both from individual experiences and someone who provided hard data. Someone modified the phrasing of the question(which freaked me out a bit at first), but contributed to the discussion. When I goofed on my smartphone sitting in the fast food drive-thru and inadvertently posted a comment as an answer, the mod/group were right on top of it, keeping the topic clean.<br><br>I think the recent user influx has challenged the ability of the system to keep things running smoothly. I'm hoping that folks who are not honestly interested in these kinds of interactions will slowly drop off as their spam yields no results, that is, if the Quora model can scale up to interrupt this behavior.
    AnthonyGadgetX
    • RE: Quora content quality quelled by its own constituents

      @AnthonyGadgetX - Hey Anthony! I hope you are right however that same 'dropping off' hasn't even come close to happening yet with Twitter, etc....maybe we just haven't reached that threshold yet in social...the same one that made the dot com bubble burst...
      Rich Harris
  • WOW!!

    What an amazingly boring article.
    james347
    • RE: Quora content quality quelled by its own constituents

      @james347 - My buddy James!
      Rich Harris
  • Hacker News provides a useful example

    My answer from Quora to this very question (http://b.qr.ae/eFT41k):

    Hacker News may be a good model here. The community itself does a good job of surfacing the best new content and answers. And similar to Leonard Lin's response here, Hacker News empowers high reputation members to police the site (which Wikipedia does as well). I can very much see Quora developing a sub-community of people who:
    * Have developed good reputations here
    * Have the time and interest in maintaining the condition of the site

    Hacker News has continued to provide very useful information and perspectives through its mix of reputation (Karma), community voting and designated members who watch over the site and people's comments.

    The Hacker News members are harsh, and quick, to call out crap answers. Can the same culture take hold at Quora?
    bhc3
  • Quora is better than your impression here.

    Quora can be more like wikipedia than other QA`platforms. Questions can be refined and I find it conversational as opposed to sipping from the firehose.
    conceptual
  • dumb questions on quora

    personally, I like sarcastic answers. there are so many pompous windbags on quora that it's refreshing to see some people who don't take themselves quite so seriously.

    even better: really dumb questions. like the ones I write about here....

    http://www.esarcasm.com/20688/the-10-dumbest-questions-people-ask-on-quora/
    dan@...
    • RE: Quora content quality quelled by its own constituents

      @dan@... - ....excellent.
      Rich Harris
  • Quora just give it some time

    I've been on Quora since right after the initial beta launch. I think the concept is better than any other QA or social content sites. They do have a challenge with separating the quality answers from others. That's going to continue to be a challenge on anything that's social.

    They've take some steps to help improve that with the voting mechanism. So, it's a start. I believe Quora has a smart team and they'll continue to watch for patterns and trends to refine their voting/ranking system, possibly establish some kind of weighted voting system based on reputation, activity or other metrics and continue to improve the system.

    If they can find a way to make it easier to find the quality content and harder to find the crap, then they're going to succeed. If not, then they're going to fizzle out. So, they have a challenge, but I think they're capable of pulling it off.

    As a disclaimer, I've worked on community content systems in the past where creating some type of voting/raking/reputation system was critical to helping the community establish more relevant or helpful content from less relevant or helpful content. It's no small task, but if you know what you're doing, what to look for and what the community will adopt, it's totally achievable.
    zakiwarfel
  • Re: Quora quelled?

    Wonder if this is simply an analogy to the blogosphere world.
    New "sandbox" gets created. Early adopters. Gets more broadly understood. More people get engaged. Lots of content and choices, growing exponentially. Noise creeps in, along with the good stuff.
    Users start figuring out what they are interested in and what they're not. Manual filters get put in place. New technology options get created by the platforms and more importantly, by the users. Tips are shared, and we settle into the next wave of consumption/engagement/sharing.
    Just a thought.
    Glennengler
  • #1

    For a blathering article that makes no sense.
    james347
    • RE: Quora content quality quelled by its own constituents

      @james347 - Your talkbacks/comments help us get paid and elevate our articles in search & across the rest of the site, so for that, I thank you. :-)
      Rich Harris
  • Not so fast!

    You're awfully fast to write off Quora. I've been on the network for over a year now and it still continues to surprise me. I haven't found discovery a problem because when I joined Quora I didn't know a soul who was on it. I have connections there that don't carry over to Twitter or Facebook.<br><br>I am always puzzled by comments like you make (and which I have heard about Twitter for 3 years now) about their being too much "noise" and not enough "signal". The user controls which individuals, questions and topics you follow. Simply unfollow people or subjects you're not interested in and get no value from. If you're getting too much noise, maybe you are following too many or the wrong people. Either way, that is your choice, not a fault of the network.<br><br>As for snark, I'll admit it's there and was especially common in the first year when there were just a few thousand users. It was an intimate community then. People show their humanity, share their stories. It's not Wikipedia that requires a neutral point of view and asks people to cite their sources. People are opinionated. People flirt. Guys playfully insult each other. People, to some degree, are allowed to be human beings and not tone down their personality traits (for better or worse).<br><br>I can say without qualification that I had nothing in common with the other Quora users when I joined. Consequently, many of my questions went unanswered. But I've always learned a lot on subjects of which I was ignorant.<br><br>Quora is dealing with this huge influx of newbies as best as it can. But I think people signed up with inflated expectations. It's just a bunch of people (some of whom are very smart), asking and answering questions. Take it for what it is, not what you think it should be or, if that is unacceptable to you, spend your time on another website.
    nwjerseyliz@...
    • RE: Quora content quality quelled by its own constituents

      @nwjerseyliz@... Thanks for the thoughtful reply. We didn't really write off Quora as much as we wrote off a social platform's ability to stave off the popularity contest and the noise. New social media platforms that are onto something cool should not allow stuff like "connect to your XXX account, see who else is on here and auto-follow them." - It removes the ability for those of us that want to enjoy new innovation to keep it simple and build a 'clean' and more meaningful community from scratch.
      Rich Harris
  • Interesting Points!

    I really can't argue with "Like the bees to our campground bbq, the social media types with their incessant quest to push their own personal brand swarmed Quora with a vengeance, populating it with questions that were as unique to read as a corporate press release from 1982."

    The issue does seem to be one created in part by the 'when you sign up, you autofollow people that you were following on Facebook or Twitter who preceded you to the site.'
    It has been too easy in the past couple of years to 'filter out' the noise (or noisy) on Twitter or Facebook while still appearing to 'follow' those folks. But there is no such filter in place for Quora as yet. Your only option is to manually unfollow all of them! :\
    In the interest of trying to keep up the quality there? I fully intend to pass that feedback along to the Quora Team. They are really trying to make something amazing over there and actually listen to feedback on stuff like this. I have nothing but praise for those guys when it comes to trying to hone their platform so that it isn't just noise.

    I was actually kind of surprised to see someone the other day with a huge 'following' who had not really participated over there until recently. Then it occurred to me that the 'advantage' of setting up an account early on at Quora was that if you had a large following on FB or Twitter, their mere act of signing up increased your presence on Quora - whether or not you had participated at all. Seems a design flaw that was surely unintentional.

    Thanks for adding my (somewhat obnoxious) post in here guys. Love the analysis! Hoping the title is proved wrong in the next few months! :)
    LucretiaPruitt
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