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Ricardo Bilton & Gloria Sin

Apple could merge iOS and OSX next year, says analyst

By | August 3, 2011, 10:45am PDT

Summary: With OSX beginning to feel more and more like iOS, how long will it be until Apple merges the two platforms? According to one analyst, the move could happen as soon as 2012.

If you have spent any time at all with Lion, the latest upgrade to OSX, you may have noticed how much like iOS the whole deal feel as times. It’s not bad, exactly - just strange. It’s also evidence that Apple could one day merge to two platforms.

But would Apple really go that far? That’s the theory supported by Jefferies & Co analyst Peter Misek, who says that the move, which could happen as soon as next year, would both improve Apple’s margins and make it easier to share content across devices.

Only problem with that theory, of course, is that Apple already has a way to make it easy to share content across devices: It’s called iCloud. Apple wouldn’t need to merge two distinct operating systems solely for that reason.

More likely is that the move would make it as easy to use as Mac as it is to use an iPad - a major boon for the less tech-savvy consumers out there. Merging iOS and OSX would make the process of moving from and iPad to a Mac seamless. And that’s the very sort of thing customers have come to expect from Apple.

So Misek is both right and wrong. Apple very well could merge iOS and OSX, though the move wouldn’t have anything to do with iCloud. Nor is it likely to happen as soon as 2012.

[TechTraderDaily, Forbes]

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Ricardo Bilton writes for ZDNet's The ToyBox. His work has appeared in The Japan Times, The New York Observer, and The International Business Times, among other publications.

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RE: Apple could merge iOS and OSX next year, says analyst
non-biased 9th Aug
@Eleutherios I think it's almost like people think just because they add gestures with the track pad that it's all of the sudden almost iOS.
It is possible, having said that I don't trust the so called Financial Analysts at Wall Street.
@Rama.NET

I didn't know Jason Perlow was a Wall Street Financial Analyst?
@kenosha7777
I am not talking about Jason Perlow, I am talking about Jefferies & Co analyst Peter Misek.
@kenosha7777
Where was Jason Perlow involved in this? Is he working for a Wall St firm now?
@Rama.NET: (most of them)
@Rama.NET

Agreed ! "Financial Analysts at Wall Street" is an oxymoron. Or maybe just moron.
So you wouldn't be able to run Flash on a desktop Mac? And all software would have to come through iTunes? Um... no thanks.
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Like Flash would be relevant
john@... 4th Aug
@ccrockett@...

Adobe have already got out an HTML5 development package out now. And you can install stuff other than the App Store. Methinks you are trying too hard.
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HTML5 isn't final...
shryko 4th Aug
@john@...

As for installing without the App Store? Not on iOS (at least not without Jailbreaking).
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RE: Apple could merge iOS and OSX next year, says analyst
deusexmachina  Updated - 4th Aug
@ shryko
Not really.
1) HTML5 apps can be installed with not problem on iOS devices. It makes no difference if the final HTML5 spec has been released or not. That is totally irrelevant.
2) More to the point, side-loading of apps outside of the App store has been supported for a while now. Where have you been?
So Apple is going for the opposite of Microsoft's approach so far with Windows.
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A little Far Fetched...
Snooki_smoosh_smoosh 3rd Aug
I think that the look and feel may get closer, but iOS is a touch centered OS, and OSX is geared for the Desktop, which to me is the right approach. The latest with Air Drop and iCloud, along with Air Play, makes it really easy to share and stream Content around the home.

A complete merge of the software could result in the orphaning of thousands of OSX apps, not a good business plan if you ask me.

The unified feel of it though makes sense.
@Snooki_smoosh_smoosh
+1. Yes there would be a disaster and OSX will become another Windows ME if the apps suddenly stop working after upgrade.
@Snooki_smoosh_smoosh
As a developer, I'm not sure how I could use iOS to develop applications happy. Also, merging the two systems would mean that iOS would have a "visible" file system structure, Xcode, etc. (developing apps on a touch device is not something I'm looking forward to). An alternative would be to have the dev tools and infrastructure remote, but you'd still have to use some touch approach to development. Really?
If you read what the analyst guy actually wrote, he claims that MacBook Air will switch from MacOS on Intel to iOS-like system on ARM while MacBook Pro will remain on Intel as it is.
This supposedly allow to share applications and will lead to some "synergies". Sounds more like forking MacOS than merging.
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OSX/iOS hybrid?
jscott69 4th Aug
@Scrabbler

Your post reminded me of several related things from which I was able to jump to a conclusion ... of sorts.

First, people inherently interact differently with desktop & laptop computers vs tablets and smartphones. The form factor of the latter makes them more suitable for a touch-centric interface because you're physically holding them. With desktops and laptops, however, it's somewhat awkward to be touching and pushing on the screen all the time. (Though you'd never think that, judging by all the fingerprint smudges people get on their screens in our office.)

And since direct (touch) and indirect (via input devices) interaction are not entirely similar, forcing either onto a device designed for the other would seem less than optimal. Not very Apple-like.

But ... then I remember that Apple was granted a patent for a device that operates one way (say, like OSX) when the display is vertical and another (say, like iOS) when the display is horizontal. The same could be triggered when the device (an iPad) was nestled into a keyboard/trackpad dock, thus essentially converting it to a laptop. (It could be a desktop ... but the screen isn't that big, which to me is the most notable difference -- aside from portability -- of a laptop vs desktop.)

Now, when you think about it, the big difference between a tablet and a laptop is basically the touch screen ... and that keyboard thing (forgetting issues like Flash ... which is less and less of an issue each day). If Apple were to equip MacBooks with touchscreens, they'd essentially be like a big iPad that was permanently mounted to a foldable keyboard dock.

So, how tough would this be to do? Well, when Apple intro'd the iPhone several years ago, they explained that iOS is essentially OSX Lite with a different UI. I don't know how accurate that it is, but it seems logical. Assuming it's true, then it should be fairly trivial to have one OS (iOSX?) with two UIs that it switches in and out of as appropriate. Of course, it would be best if they functioned similarly enough all the time that the only things that change are natural changes that don't confuse a user. For example, the touchscreen might still function perfectly well in vertical orientation ... even though people might do most of their work with a keyboard and mouse/trackpad then ... because you don't want it being non-responsive if someone does reach out and touch the screen.

As someone else pointed out, iOS might need to be opened up a bit to allow installation of programs from USB drives or other sources. But supposedly Apple is working on better sandboxing technology that might make that possible without raising security issues.

It seems not only plausible to me that Apple might eventually merge the two platforms, it seems likely. I wouldn't be surprised at all if, in a year or two, MacBooks are much more like iPads running a hybrid OS. That would allow Apple to actually eliminate the MacBook product line, leaving the ultra-portable iPhone/iPod Touch; the tablet iPad with optional keyboard/trackpad dock; and the Mac desktops, all running a shared OS.
The OSX and iOS environments have very different takes on security. OSX is what I call a traditional, "open barndoor" model which has few impediments to the user adding a new application, even one that compromises security.

Apple is expected to come up with a security fix, closing the barndoor after the horses are long gone.

iOS takes a less programmer friendly, closed approach more like manufactures take to refrigerators.

To merge the two operating systems would seem to require the inclusion of backward compatible OSX features into iOS. Which would mean that Apple forfeits the low maintenance aspect of iOS.

What I am saying here is that there is more to merging the two operating systems than simply achieving superficial similarity.
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"classic mode"
shryko 4th Aug
like they did with Mac Classic (OS 9), they added a VM to support the backwards compatibility stuff.

Yes, it'd be more than just the superficial change, but for Apple, it may be their path of choice for the non-pro lines.
Good lord. The only thing about Lion that feels like iOS is Launchpad and Mission control! The rest of it still operates just like OS X! If anything, the full screen apps feel like Windows.
@I12BPhil
Agreed! I would add the Mail app in Lion, which very much behaves like Mail in iOS. Other than that, Lion is very similar to Snow Leopard.
@Eleutherios I think it's almost like people think just because they add gestures with the track pad that it's all of the sudden almost iOS.
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Windows 8?
tmccorm 4th Aug
Microsoft is rumored to be pursuing this path with Windows 8. The reviews of this strategy seem mixed. It does indeed seem difficult to believe that one OS can be appropriate for both desktop and ultra-portable (i.e. small screen limited text entry).
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Maybe it's because I've been a professional journalist, but do you think you could maybe have an editor proofread your copy before posting it?

This was painful to read, with so many typos and extraneous words throughout the copy. I literally had to re-read several sentences several times to figure out what you were trying to say. I felt like I was reading one of my 14 year old daughter's school papers.

It may be a blog, but it doesn't mean it shouldn't be grammatically correct.

Sadly, this is all too common on ZDNet.

If you guys need a proofreader/copy editor, drop me a note. I work cheap.
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You mean: "I work cheaply". Don't you?
adornoe@... Updated - 4th Aug
I want a file system. AFAIK, iOS doesn't have one. I don't want to see OSX dumbed-down for idiots.
@mcgonegal

Of course it has a file system, all OSes do, it just is not exposed in the UI.
Apple drones, prepare to be abandoned again.

Apple II Abandoned
M68000 Abandoned
OS9 Abandoned
PPC Abandoned
OSX ??? Why would you expect the pattern of abuse to change.
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RE: Apple could merge iOS and OSX next year, says analyst
deusexmachina  Updated - 4th Aug
@nick@...

Abuse? WTF are you talking about? Apple supported The Apple II for well nigh 25 years. They debuted in 1977, and Apple made them until 1993. Of course they stopped making them, it was 1993, for god's sake. Nonetheless, the continued to provide support for years afterward.
Likewise with the Motorola 68000 series. The processor had reached its zenith, and could not be expected to go much further. Many of the design ideas were, however incorporated into the PPC.
And it was not Apple that abandoned the PPC, it was IBM. Get your facts straight. Nonetheless, again, Apple supported PPC platforms for several OS revisions afterward.

You, quite simply, have no idea what you are talking about.
because, the iCloud will be doing most of the leg work for all things Apple.

Macs can be turned into cloud dependent slaves, but, with more storage and a bit more computing than, say, a Chromebook. Macs can then be the storage mechanism for the iCloud and all of the devices for a user. Apple would then be saving billions of dollars by not having to maintain a big and complicated OS, and the users would probably not notice much of a difference (until they could not connect to the internet or the iCloud, of course). And hey, a big plus, no malware or viruses for Macs, since there would not be any more OS to attack; just the iCloud.
@adornoe@...

ZZZZzzzzzz....
Apple.

But, look at it from the bright side. My post wasn't really negative towards Apple.

Maybe next time, I'll kiss some Apple azz, and you'll replace your "ZZZZZZZs" with smiley faces.
What are they trying to do? Are they trying to get a full OS to run on a smartphone and tablets? How stupid are those Microsoft, err, I mean Apple people?
@ Ricardo Bilton

"So Misek is both right and wrong."

You write this as if you have made an argument, supported it with evidence, and then used logical inference to arrive at a reasonable conclusion. You did none of these things.
You merely stated one pundits opinion, posted an irrelevant bit about iCloud, and then declared this statement.
It is almost as if someone came in and deleted 75% of the original post.

This wasn't even the outline of a reasoned, logical argument.
If you have OS X Lion, Launchpad already does this.
@ManoaHI

Um, no it doesn't
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Apple is all about integration
Herdpress 5th Aug
Apple is all about integrating features across their ecosystem. I think it is very likely that the two operating systems are merging. Here's why:

We've already seen a patent from Apple for a touch-screen iMac with a screen that can switch between an upright orientation and a flat surface orientation. It's easy to imagine how switching to the flat orientation might trigger the new Launchpad. The new full-screen mode was obviously developed for use on touch screens, so perhaps apps will automatically switch to their full-screen mode when the iMac is in this flat orientation. And with the App Store now available on the Mac, developers will be able to create universal applications that run not only on the iPhone and iPad, but the new touch screen iMac as well.

I should be an analyst.
Guess this might just be David Gewirtz's wish for an iOS desktop come through

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/government/5-top-reasons-it-might-be-time-for-an-ios-desktop/10205

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