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Ford triumphs with Touch, Sync; brings connectivity to fourth screen -- your dashboard

By | January 7, 2010, 1:09pm PST

Summary: CES 2010: Ford’s new Touch and Sync in-car communications systems open up the automobile to the power of the Internet. Your dashboard will never be the same.

LAS VEGAS — What’s got an operating system, Bluetooth and Wi-Fi connectivity, USB and SD card ports, two LCD touchscreens, touch-sensitive buttons, MapQuest turn-by-turn directions, support for Pandora and Twitter, app stores, an SDK and a direct feed into the cloud?

No, it’s not the latest smartbook. It’s the next-generation of Ford, Lincoln and Mercury vehicles, and they’re coming to show you what it’s like to tether a V6 engine to your laptop or phone.

Ford dropped a major, industry-disrupting bomb on Thursday with the announcement of the MyFord Touch in-car communications system, which completely revamps your car’s dashboard by replacing the familiar speedometer, gas, battery and mileage dials with an 8-inch interactive display.

Paired with the company’s previously-announced Sync device-to-car communications system, Touch offers a GUI, TUI (T for “touch”) and VUI (V for “voice”) to turn your vehicle into an Internet-connected smart car.

The new system is so powerful that CEA president Gary Shapiro couldn’t help but call Ford CEO Alan Mulally the leader of “a technology company.”

TOUCH, SYNC AND GO

Ford’s new communications systems rely on voice and touch commands to ensure that the driver’s eyes stay on the road and hands on the steering wheel.

Five-way directional controls on the steering wheel control the graphical dashboard interface, which is dynamic in what information you want to display.

The Touch system also moves into the space where your car radio normally resides, replacing it with a color LCD screen that serves several functions divided into four color-coded categories: Phone, Navigation, Entertainment and Climate.

What that means is that you can access MapQuest maps, in-car GPS navigation and turn-by turn directions in one quadrant; mobile phone and SMS text messaging in another quadrant, weather, news and stock quotes in a third quadrant; and local music, Internet radio, movie times and Internet browsing in the fourth, all controlled by touchscreen or — when the cars is at speed — voice commands.

Better still, the system gets better over time by “learning” and adapting to your voice.

Bye bye, Bluetooth headset.

That’s not all. Combined with Sync, which talks to your mobile phone and other devices, Ford can leverage that local ecosystem — everything inside your vehicle — with the greater, Internet-powered ecosystem outside of it. Along with the maps and Internet radio and GPS the car can access, it can also sync preferences (such as whether you want to follow a certain sports team, or whether you “favorite” a song that’s playing in Pandora) to the cloud, thanks to the Ford Service Delivery Network.

Example 1: You can “tag” an HD radio song you hear playing and the car will send that information directly to your iPod so you can then purchase the track.

Example 2: With MapQuest, you can send a map you look up on your computer directly to your vehicle — so you don’t have to print directions.

Example 3: The car can read text messages (or Twitter tweets) received in real-time and allow you to respond via text or, in the case of an SMS, actually just call that person back, entirely hands-free.

Example 4: You can buy movie tickets or make dinner reservations on the way home from work using only voice commands.

Example 5: Now that your speedometer and gas gauges are intelligent, they can actually coach you to be a more fuel-efficiend driver.

To boot, the luxury Lincoln brand gets exclusive details that the Ford and Mercury systems do not. For example, the entire center console is touch-sensitive — no more mechanical buttons — meaning you can adjust the fan speed by sliding your finger along a touch sensitive slider.

Even better, the car knows you: as you open the door, the system welcomes you by name. And the color of the ambient cup holder and foot well lights are adjustable from central Touch display.

“Who would imagine that five years ago, regular people could afford a car with Internet access?” said Jason Johnson, Ford’s user interface design engineer for Sync.

That’s not all, either. By leveraging the power of the smart, connected, Internet-ready vehicle, Ford can explore ways to create a smart highway ecosystem.

One example given during the keynote: If several cars driving on a road turn on their windshield wipers or lights, Ford could use that data to warn others within a few miles’ radius to do the same in anticipation of inclement weather.

“What the mouse did for the PC, we need to come up with for [the car]” said Jim Buczkowski, Ford director of Global Electrical and Electronics Systems Engineering. “We need to come up with a mouse.”

A MAJOR DISRUPTION

It’s hard to convey just how groundbreaking and disrupting this move is. With Touch, Ford is showing electronics behemoths like Sony and Samsung that they, too, can create a computing environment that consumers will buy into.

And with Sync — which is built in partnership with Microsoft — Ford is opening up millions of possible revenue streams, thanks to the wealth of services that the company can offer to the driver/consumer with Internet connectivity.

Leading manufacturers of the big 3 screens (computer, phone, TV) ought to take note: Ford and Microsoft are creating a fourth one right in our driveway.

Ford CEO Mulally stressed during his keynote speech here at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas, noting the company’s “four principles” — quality, safety, fuel efficiency and “smart” technologies — and how Touch and Sync work to accomplish the last two.

“These are the features that set us apart — our signature brand technologies,” Mulally said, adding that the features were “strategically important” and help to differentiate the company’s offerings from competition.

Some of these other features include:

  • Active park assist — an intuitive system that accommodates for driver assumptions
  • Radar-based blind spot information system, including cross traffic alerts
  • Easyfuel capless fuel filler — racing inspired tech
  • EcoBoost, to increase the efficiency of traditional internal combustion engines (parallel to hybrid development)

Announcing a new Ford Taurus that’s equipped with all of these technologies, Mulally said it was “challenging” and “fun” to “move at Silicon Valley speed.”

With more than 1 million Sync-equipped vehicles on the road already, Ford has set an aggressive timeline for rolling the new Touch system out to its new vehicles: 80 percent of Ford’s new vehicles will have the system within five years, and the first vehicles to get it include the new Ford Taurus, the Lincoln MKX crossover, the 2011 Ford Edge and 2012 Ford Focus.

The company has rolled out a Developer Toolkit for its “driver-connected technology,” and it is smartly designing the system to leverage existing mobile app stores instead of making a new one.

The idea? More apps, more quickly, more affordably, with no additional fees.

Ford also worked with Nuance to make voice commands more conversational and IDEO (of Apple mouse fame) to make more intuitive multi-modal input and interfaces.

Ford outlined five guidelines for its approach:

  1. 5-way controller
  2. LCD screens
  3. Color conveys functionality
  4. Logically organized information in repeatable way
  5. Relevant information

The company’s so bullish on the approach that it made reference to the hands-free, heads-up displays used by Tom Cruise’s character in Minority Report and Robert Downey, Jr.’s character in Iron Man.

THE STORY BEHIND THE SCENES: MICROSOFT

If Ford’s got the financial leverage to roll such an ecosystem out worldwide, Microsoft’s got the breadth to effectively engineer a new computing ecosystem that most folks can’t help but use.

But Microsoft’s deal isn’t exclusive with Ford, and the company just announced a deal with Kia (owned by Hyundai) for a similar in-car system built on the same underlying technology.

While Kia’s system is expected to be much simpler than Ford’s at the outset, the announcement demonstrates that Ford has first-mover advantage when it comes to implementing the technology — and Microsoft stands to benefit greatly if wider adoption occurs.

(So do all those content partners. The car’s new, more robust, Internet-connected ecosystem means there are virtually limitless avenues to make money on services.)

THE TOYBOX TAKE

With Sync and Touch and Kia’s Uvo system and others like it, auto makers are quickly becoming tech companies.

It’s not just about Ford, either. The car’s dashboard has truly become the “fourth screen” for which to develop — as robust as any netbook or smartphone — and the companies that can successfully break into that environment stand to gain a significant advantage. The development benefits the driver greatly, but also benefits all the companies that can leverage this new platform — the car — to more roundly offer services already available on computers and phones and partially available on televisions.

Computing, somehow, has become more ubiquitous than ever. Only this time, it’s at 65 miles per hour.

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Touch is locked out plus
stano360 1st Feb 2010
Most of the problems I see nowadays (in SoCal anyway) are people driving slow using cell phones or trying to figure out where to go. This should eliminate both of those problems
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Nobody would buy a windoze operated car!
People would only trust Linux in their car.
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Kiss of death
relwolf 7th Jan 2010
Pretty soon there will be more Microsoft cars than
there are Linux desktops happy
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Zing!
Fark 8th Jan 2010
Assuming MS properly tests the system, and secures it, I think relwolf's conclusion is all but assured.
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keep dreaming
Linux Geek 8th Jan 2010
Ford and Kia will go under because they used M$ products.
All the car interfaces will be Linux based in 2015.
Microsoft controlling my car? You've got to be kidding me!

They made me waste to much of my time on the desktop and to
have them controlling my car, dream on Microsoft!
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Kiss of Death? Huh?
tculler@... 21st Jan 2010
1. Over 1 million Ford Sync-equipped cars sold.

2. Billions of miles racked up on those cars. Not one blue screen. You would have heard of it by now.

Get over your Linux bias and accept the fact that a Microsoft-related project can be successful. In addition, there is a lot of Ford development involved in this tech - developers just like you and me, that can create good, reliable code that must be tested ad nauseum. Microsoft just developed the technology platform.
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Yikes!
Userama 7th Jan 2010
That's all I can say. Just....yikes!
I hope they also install flashing lights on top of the car when this system is in
use so that other drivers can be warned that they're nearby.
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Hahahaha.....
OhTheHumanity 8th Jan 2010
Man so original jokes man. Someone get this guy an agent.

My sync has been zero issues so may want to actually get some first hand on it instead of seein microsoft on the label and just being a shill about it.
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Not anti-Microsoft at all
Userama 8th Jan 2010
I don't care who makes the damn thing. I think it's irresponsible
for Ford to put a distraction like this in a vehicle. And don't give
me the "it's not a distraction because it's voice controlled" line.
Anybody with half a brain can see that it will be distracting. It's
called "MyFord Touch". See that "Touch" in there???
I sure hope other auto makers won't think they have to add all
this junk to be competitive.
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Touch or Voice......
OhTheHumanity 8th Jan 2010
You choose. I would have no problem with this and its not like you are playing on the internet while you are driving. Very handy for the passenger to do some nice things too.

As I have stated before drivers that know the road is their first objective seem to have no problems doing alot of things while driving. Its the clueless drivers that daze into their stupid devices and take their focus off the road. Your analogies are like the ones that claim guns kill people and not people themselves that pull the trigger.

Its a shame that a few idiotic drivers cause death and regulations for others that are responsible drivers first and foremost.
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You're deluding yourself
Userama 8th Jan 2010
"drivers that know the road is their first objective seem to have no
problems doing alot of things while driving."

BS. Period.
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Whatever man......
OhTheHumanity 8th Jan 2010
I have been driving a long time and haven't had issues but from other idiots hitting me all the time. Also I can rattle off plenty of other things that are more distracting to drivers than this and people just seem to forget all that. Wise up man and keep your eyes on the road and watch out in your mirrors for those pathetic drivers that are too damn dazed or nervous, they are bound to hit you just as they have with me. Good day sir.
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Then you just KEEP YOUR EYES IN THE ROAD!!!
Grayson Peddie 9th Jan 2010
Don't you EVER be like the drivers who don't keep their eyes in the road.
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Touch is locked out plus
stano360 1st Feb 2010
Most of the problems I see nowadays (in SoCal anyway) are people driving slow using cell phones or trying to figure out where to go. This should eliminate both of those problems
You own a car? Ever adjust your A/C? Change the radio channel or volume? Set cruise control on/off? change a CD while driving?
Dial your cell phone while driving? Adjust your mirrors while driving? Check your oil, battery or heat gauges while driving?

Your argument doesn't hold water if you ask me. With voice activated controls to do the same things you have always had to do manually while trying to drive, it's at least somewhat more safe.
It's odd that suddenly in car systems are unsafe because it's got MS associated with it when navigation, high end stereo systems with tons of options and other in dash instrumentation that requires more than just a touch to operate have been in vehicles for decades.
I think Sync is an improvment in driving safety over cars without it yet full of in dash features.
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Here's the thing, x.
Userama 11th Jan 2010
The "old manual knobs" are in a fixed location and don't change
function as a multi-function display does. That A/C adjust knob
is ALWAYS in the same place and ALWAYS does the same thing.
Same with the radio controls, cruise control, etc. Compare this
with a multi-function display that changes controls layout and
functions with each screen. You HAVE to look at it to figure out
what functions are on it at any given time. Let's face it---fixed
controls are a lot less distracting than a multi-function screen
that keeps changing. And the MyFord Touch system has THREE
multi-function screens on the dash! Not good.
With any new car you have to get used to new control placement, some things are on the steering wheel, some on the main dash area that divides the driver and passenger side and some are on the lower part of the dash to the left of the steering wheel, which are all but impossible to see and you have to know them well by touch, some are directly between the seats near the cup holder area and some are on the door in front of the arm rest.

Are you saying any average driver is not capable of learning the placements on 3 screens? They don't change within themselves.
They are all centrally located and again, voice controlled so you don't need to worry about touch. But even w/o voice I know I could learn it's screens as quickly as the placement of controls in a new car, I'm not sure why you don't feel you can?
People get used to interfaces they use every day very quickly. I feel you are blowing this out of proportion, but that's just my opinion and Ford's as well.

Just in case you are someone who buys the same model every time and even though things change from model year to model year anyway, once someone has owned a vehicle with Sync, it's the same difference next time they purchase.
New ideas and technologies have to start at some point in time.
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Re: YIKES
roymac 11th Jan 2010
Thank You Sir - A voice of reason. I watch them crash just trying to text - Can't wait to see them surf the web from behind the wheel.
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Airplane Cockpit
tgschmidt 7th Jan 2010
Alan Mulaly... Airplanes... need I say more?
Everyone knows that Windows is the hands down most popular desktop OS and arguably the most popular server OS in the world if you don't count the old Darpa dinosaurs that end in the letter "x"...yuck...that old moldy dinosaur technology and everything derived from it has to go,it's been around way too long and people are just sick of the *N?X.
But to continue, Microsoft also enjoys overwhelming popularity on many other products as well....hands down on dev tools, hands down on Office suite, hands down on SQL Server, hands down on product integration, hands down on intranet web server, hands down on internal managed code runtime....the list goes on and on.
And now they are conquering a new market with Sync technology and soon Windows will be in a billion cars, just like it's on a billion desktops.
While other companies are buying into fads, like the ipod and iphone, Microsoft continues to develop long term relationships with business and continues to be the platform of choice everywhere.
Ford is the only Detroit Auto maker to decline government(tax payer) money and they are due to be in the black by 2011.
This collaboration with Microsoft has been ongoing for some time now and Ford is a company that is on the right track and knows what it's doing.
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Yeah pretty much......
OhTheHumanity 8th Jan 2010
These people only see things through their fad glasses and can't actually see big pictures. You are right Microsoft does alot of things pretty well that no one even knows about or would care to acknowledge.

Ford is also a well run company now that Bill Ford is not CEO. Alan Mullaly has been a breath of fresh air for Ford and not taking tax money actually pushed me into the Ford camp and I am so happy I did and I love my new Ford and sync is great.
makers to catch up.
I've owned a few Honda's over the years and they are excellent machines to be sure. But they lack the small but very useful touches you get in a Ford or GM, such as a dome light switch on the dashboard....although i think Honda has that now.
But we looked at the Honda Pilot in 2008 and the EX-L which is the top of the line, not counting the EX-L NAVI or EX-L whatever the letters are for rear entertainment center) and it still did not have dual climate control, something you can get on American vehicles for far less.
I hope GM survives things too and regret they had to take money. The new Buick LaCrosse looks very good and the Malibu is in the Accord class along with the new 2010 Ford Taurus, which is another very sweet car.
I still miss the old cars though, all of those models from chevy, pontiac, olds, buick, gmc, cadiallac, AMC (my brother had a 1973 AMC Javelin with a 360, it was a super sweet set of wheels for the 1980s. I was a kid but old enough to appreciate a nice muscle car. ), ford, mercury, Lincoln and the imports of the older days.
All of those colors of the 60s and mainly the 70s and all of those models were part of Americana but it's gone forever. Cars are all becoming named by a number and colors all seem to be muted and dominated by grays and browns.
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Not fit for a HotWheel!
ShazAmerica 7th Jan 2010
I wouldn't trust MS software to run a fisherprice car, let alone a
real one! Sorry Ford, you just lost a customer. Once this piece of
crap system blue screens and causes a fatality, then the old
saying about Ford, Found On Road Dead, will unfortunately come
true.
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Get a life
CrashPad 8th Jan 2010
The software that would affect that kind of failure is already in the cars, and is not writting by MS. You do know that cars have had even rudimentary computers in them since the 70's? Oh know you wouldnt, you have the official FUD blinders on.
LOL Where do you people come from?

You are all like people at the fair. We never see them anywhere else and are very happy about that fact.
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I will sue Ford for everything
javajunkie@... 7th Jan 2010
if one of their cars runs over my child because the driver was texting.

They are selling a product (constant internet access) when it's known that that product is deadly for drivers.

Liability Ford Liability.

Stop looking at Android/iPhone and come up with a product that is safe for the roads.
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@javajunkie
Axsimulate Updated - 8th Jan 2010
Relax! In case you haven't noticed, but Ford, Chrysler, GM, etc have been selling vehicles with DVD players in them for years. Where are all the stories of people getting killed because of those?
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Oh lord.....
OhTheHumanity Updated - 8th Jan 2010
You are freakin paranoid. This system can be voice activated so not sure why you would have your eyes off the road.

Also for years people have been doing their makeup, shaving, eating, smoking, cd fumbling, cranking with the heater/AC, yelling at the kids in the backseat, and the list goes on and on. From most of those things this system is safer than that. You just want a damn excuse to make a fuss over a feature you wish you had in your ride. Oh and like the others your opinion may have something to do with Microsoft attached to the word Sync. Open your mind, its in tunnel mode from what I see.
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Sue Ford?
tculler@... 21st Jan 2010
Howabout those folks who text now who don't have Internet access while driving, but rather send SMS messages? You know, the ones that drive Toyotas, Hondas, BMWs... Are they exempt from your lawsuit, or do you sue Verizon and Toyota because a driver texted while driving?
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Love the Technology
jpr75_z 7th Jan 2010
But seems like too many distractions for someone who is driving. Time will tell, but I hope people who have these "smart cars" don't forget they are driving a 2 ton killing machine.
I wonder what will happen when a person gets a BSOD while
driving 60mph down the freeway.... happy
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so what if it happens.
CrashPad 8th Jan 2010
That part of the auto is not affecting the safety and contrl features of the unit. Read and listen and learn you idiots.
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Reminds me of the story ....
johnfenjackson@... Updated - 8th Jan 2010
... asking if you would be happy with a car having the reliability characteristics of a Windows PC. One crash a year is perfectly OK, right?

"My onboard navigation system indicates that I am good to travel up this one way street, officer."

The President's car has a fifth panel accessible only via the secret password of Joshua equipped with a few extra options:

1. Increase tax on {commodity}
2. Request speech appeasing minority {faction}
3. Global Thermonuclear Warfare.
4. List party fund raisers: week to view.
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Heds-up display anyone?
Robert Carnegie 2009 8th Jan 2010
A few years ago, someone on a TV show pimped their ride with a home-made heads-up display for vehicle information. On the windshield, maybe even presented with focus for distance so it's like your speedometer and stuff are projected onto the road ahead. How about that?

Having said that, I don't drive but I would like a car to tell me the speed and so forth when it seems likely I'd want to know. So I can reserve my eyeballs just for driving.

Also, are we getting electric and green cars yet?
It displays MPH, RPM, Oil Pressure & Engine Temp among other things. The newer Vettes also display a lateral G meter. It is all in what appears to be about an 8 inch square that seems to hover just above the hood of the car about 1 foot out in front of the windshield. Very non intrusive & lets you keep your eyes on the road! Used it extensivly on my Seattle to Bowling Green drive last September for the National Corvette Caravan.
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Pontiacs have had HUD is th mid 90's
CrashPad 8th Jan 2010
Love mine, some models even have the GPS in the HUD.
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Heads-Up Displays
tculler@... 21st Jan 2010
Part of the reason that Heads Up Displays (HUDs) haven't taken off is because some states consider them to be distractions and have ruled them illegal - like pasting a sticker on your windshield, or a waving/turning sign on the street (which have also largely disappeared for the same reason.) The car companies for the most part have avoided them because of the liability issues.

Tell you what - sit in a Ford with MyTouch, drive, press a button while staring straight ahead and say, 'Climate, 72 degrees', 'Defrost On', or whatever the words are. It's pretty sweet technology.

For those of you complaining about users browsing the Internet while they drive, Ford is going to great lengths to limit what's available to the driver while the car is in motion. They aren't adding anything that requires your hands or eyes...and with consistent use of the tech, it becomes second nature, so that even your brain isn't needed as much... wink

I'd even argue that a standard set of voice commands across manufacturers would help reduce training time in a new car's controls.
I don't think it's so much the kiss of death to Ford and Kia,
but I'm very concerned that MS will try to bottle the market
with their own proprietary standards. If the standards for
this smart highway ecosystem cannot be implemented by GPL
software, they are not open standards. And if it's not an
open standard, it won't be long before Microsoft is telling us
which gas to buy.

Kudos to them for thinking of this because it's an obvious,
logical next step forward in car instrumentation. But I won't
buy a car from a company that does deals with the devil.
Microsoft thinks of their shareholders before their customers.

So don't call me a Microsoft hater. I don't hate Microsoft.
I just don't agree with what they do. They are probably
really nice people until you take their monopoly away.
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Car manufacturers do that anyway.
Robert Carnegie 2009 8th Jan 2010
They think of their shareholders before their customers. Don't they?
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@sdunn2000
Axsimulate Updated - 8th Jan 2010
"I don't think it's so much the kiss of death to Ford and Kia, but I'm very concerned that MS will try to bottle the market with their own proprietary standards. If the standards for this smart highway ecosystem cannot be implemented by GPL software, they are not open standards. And if it's not an open standard, it won't be long before Microsoft is telling us which gas to buy."

I agree, Microsoft has a long history of doing just that. I hope Ford was smart enough to look at Microsoft's history and left themselves another avenue if Microsoft starts with their crap again.

I like Fords, but I'm not too found of Microsoft. I think the idea is really neat. I understand why Ford went with Microsoft. The cost in pulling the resources together using Linux would have been to great. They would have either created a group within Ford to put it together or contracted it out. And I doubt Apple would have been interested. By going with MS, all they needed to do is license the tech from them. A lot more cost effective. Hopefully one day Linux will have what it takes to do this.
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It'd be nice.
Grayson Peddie Updated - 9th Jan 2010
If Linux becomes competitive with Microsoft Sync for cars with as little to no resources needed to put the technology to work, For can jump into Linux instead.

I'd like to make an example if you don't mind. Okay, Ubuntu is as easy as Windows, right? But what if you want a Linux-based server? Okay, there's Webmin, but what if someone who came from Windows Server 2003/2008 background and want to move to Linux? Without a GUI for Ubuntu Server, there's a learning curve for that. Ubuntu Server is like Server Core for Windows Server 2008, as an Windows Server 2008 Server Core. But what about a Linux-equivalent server that compares with a normal installation of Windows Server 2008? Ubuntu Server has nothing like the Server Manager for Windows Server 2008. Yes, they can use Synaptic to dhcp3-server, bind9, mysql, etc. but still, it does not compare to Windows Server 2008. Yes, GUI is a security risk for Linux and I can say the same for Windows Server 2008, but there are services and some runtime environments (like .net Framework 4.0) that requires a normal installation of Windows Server 2008. You can still lock down your normal installation of Windows Server 2008 (yes, you can do that with the Server Core installation of Windows Server 2008, but I'm talking about the normal installation). For example, if you have SQL Server 2008 Standard Edition, you can lock down your database server by disabling features you don't need. You can do the same thing for Internet Information Server 7.0, too. You can disable FTP Server, if you like.

Let me conclude this by saying that if you want to compete with the normal installation of Windows Server 2008, then Linux developers must get to work on making server configuration as painlessly as possible. Want to setup a domain controller in Windows Server 2008? Very easy to do by launching dcpromo.exe once the Active Directory Domain Services role is enabled. Want to setup a domain controller for Linux? There's Samba and OpenLDAP, but the configuration is not that easy. Yes, there's Webmin and phpLDAPAdmin, but it's still not going to be easy to configure a primary domain controller with LDAP backend. Yes, I've tried it in Ubuntu Server 9.10, but I forget about it. I'm telling you: If you don't want Linux to be competitive and if you brag and comment like "hey, Linux is as easy as Windows Server 2008. Why bother with Windows while you can go with Linux? And don't add GUI in Linux due to security risk," well, you're in the minority and you won't see Linux evolving and make it as a home server for consumers. "But...but..." Yah, yah, yah... I know what you're going to say: "Webmin is easy to use." But c'mon now, wouldn't they at least want to "remote desktop" into their Linux home server and access it from there if they feel comfortable doing this rather than using Webmin and SSH (Secured Shell)?

My, my... From most of Talkbacks I've read, you uber fans of Linux must grow up, man yourself up, and help support those of limited resources. Support and compete not only for server platforms, but for cars, PBX phone systems (yes, Trixbox/FreePBX in a Flash does provide an ISO for installing into a computer but why not provide a binary installation for Ubuntu users who don't want to compile from source?), music/video creation, render farms (for rendering a full or short-length animated movie), etc. Windows may not be a winner for the next couple of years, but let me tell you one thing: compete or you'll be heading straight out the door.

Apple wins in multimedia creation platform and Microsoft wins in desktop, server, development, and a platform for cars. Get over it, grow up, and man yourself up.

(Sorry for long paragraphs.)
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@Grayson Peddie
Axsimulate 11th Jan 2010
Show me where I said I was an uber fan of Linux.
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Wise up.......
OhTheHumanity Updated - 8th Jan 2010
Please let us all know what pubclicly traded company goes against their shareholders? Most companies are in the business of making money so may want to realize that.

So Microsoft is the devil? Wow, you really got some major tunnle vision and lost sense of time. It is 2010 now, yeah, it really is, its not 1999 anymore fella.

Oh and yeah I won't call you a Microsoft hater, you're just a shill for another product. And yeah calling someone the devil is not hating? What a world we live in.
What "standards" are you talking about anyway? Do you think it's going to display a new speed designation such as BPH (Bings per hour. A bing is a proprietary standard of measure in this context).
Any connection to the internet will be done standardly. These systems are built in and designed for specific functionality, which suits a proprietary system perfectly.

This "kiss of death" talk makes me wonder if the "open source" 1% of the market, 0% of the car system market, people actually think because they hate MS, everyone does? Even the vast majority that continue to use Windows and the smash hit that is windows 7.
If it had not become envogue to denigrate MS for being capitalists by the press and Apple's lie filled smear campaign, Vista would have gained wide adoption. I used it until I moved to Windows 7, which I didn't do because Vista was not capable enough, it was the best Windows, indeed the best OS I'd ever used.
There were a few pieces of hardware in which i had to install drivers in compatibility mode, but that was a piece of cake and they worked perfectly. Otherwise it had the most security built in than any other OS on the market. OS X has no built in security, has seen a rise in malware since it gained some market and Linux based OSes will experience the same thing should they ever become adopted by enough people to matter to cyber criminals and terrorists. A system in which the bad guys have the source code can never be a completely secure system. Windows has Billions of dollars, much of it state sponsored attacks against the U.S., used to create attacks, which have all but dwindled down to social engineering. No system can stop those.
Linux users seem to somehow think if they had a billion users of all walks of life, there would suddenly not be anyone following bad links in emails or attached programs and giving them permission to run. Linux will somehow magically make people tech savvy and those who are ignorant to malware and attacks via e-mail will suddenly be enlighted.
Security is a problem for all systems and we should all be working together as users to help anyway we can and not just spend time tearing down one OS because it's userbase includes the non tech savvy. Those people are entitled to have a computer. Cyber attacks are a law enforcement issue, period.
To expect end users to secure the network is an insance idea, which is why the internet is dangerous to all OSes. Would you deploy a network for client and design it so that the end users are required to provide the security for the network?
Sorry to go on, I just don't see, for years now, why we can't get past the accusations and mud slinging.
Why do you consider MS the devil? Their rise to desktop dominance was perfectly legal and done with Apple, SUN and IBM, to name a few companies, as competitors. I really don't think MS somehow performed evil acts on those large corporations. Apple waited until just 6 years ago or so to move to x86 and compete, had they done that in the 80s before MS was able to break free from IBM, they would be in MS's shoes right now. Would that be better?
Is Apple any less the devil to you and why?
I see it so differently SUN came out the DARPA projects, as did Apple's technology they "borrowed" and McNeally got the deal of the lifetime. A free startup with a system that was enhanced many times over with billions upon billions (billion meant much more in the 70s and 80s) that came from U.S. taxpayers because Nixon wanted the U.S. to dominate in technology. McNeally was prodded by the Feds to startup Stanford University Network, or SUN privately to continue the work DARPA had started at Stanford, Berkely and other universities and private research facilites such as the one taxpayers funded to pay vint cerf and company and for their facilities to come up with what turned out to be tcp/ip.
McNeally was also offered and given ANTI TRUST Exemption for a number of years because the Feds wanted the DARPA technologhy to now grow under free enterprise but they didn't want any controls on the growth.
As it turned out they had nothing to fear. SUN never grew anywhere near large enough to threaten as a monopoly. But with all of their resources, they had no eye for the consumer market, until Microsoft's visionaries saw an untapped market as big as every person in the world and went after that market any company does when they see a market and have a product to offer it. Then SUN wanted to grab in and take as much of that market as they could via middleware. MS had every right to resist SUN but ultimately SUN was able to capitalize on a market that MS created. SUN could have built a consumer OS and hardware instead of doing what they did but apparently they could not take on MS head on, even with their massive head start and government paved resources. Same with Apple, they could have thought...hmmm...these 5000.00 Lisa's are not really selling like hotcakes, and Microsoft is really taking off, maybe we should try to compete.
IBM owned PC-DOS and OS/2 after the split in '91 when MS started their own OS business. IBM had a monopoly on PCs and could have maybe tried to complete against the clones by doing away with microchannel and other closed standards. But they didn't.
So that is all MS's fault?
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Finally! A factory "Car-puter".
kd5auq 8th Jan 2010
Hobbyists have been doing this for years.
It is about time it was integrated into a vehicle by professionals who can study (and hopefully minimize) the safety issues.
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My only complaint ....
kd5auq 8th Jan 2010
My only complaint would be if like MS and AT&T you are tied ONLY to Ford and MS subscription services without "jail breaking" your car.
I had to hack my Blackjack to be able to use Google maps with its GPS for FREE instead of AT&T's subscription map service.
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Watching the road?
Feldwebel Wolfenstool 8th Jan 2010
Or watching the screen? More deaths, guaranteed. Yay, Ford!
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Good drivers will drive properly and bad drivers will drive poorly.

Let's hope This tech has been tested and doesn't diminish either drivers ability to control their vehicle.
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What's the point then
tgschmidt 8th Jan 2010
You have all this tech, but as soon as you let the e-brake off, it's all disabled to protect Ford from lawsuits. So lets concentrate the dollars on making cars safer, more fuel efficient, perform better & putting in safety systems rather than "just adding tech".
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Not revolutionary
HollywoodDog 8th Jan 2010
BMW and Mercedes did most of this already. Honda's latest
dashboards look just as good. To me this just looks like
a bunch of stuff that could go wrong.

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