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Google selling more phones than Apple, but why?

By | May 10, 2010, 7:41pm PDT

Summary: I would never have guessed Google could jump ahead of Apple in US market share this quickly. If recent reports are accurate, I’m wondering why Google is doing so well, or perhaps, why Apple is starting to falter?

This is definitely interesting — I would never have guessed Google could jump ahead of Apple in US market share this quickly. If these numbers are accurate, I’m wondering what might be behind this statistic — why is Google doing so well, or perhaps, why is Apple starting to falter?

We’re talking about #2 and #3 spots here — RIM is still in first place with the Blackberry, but the trend really isn’t looking good for them. Based on the chart, it’s not hard to imagine that RIM will fall to second or third spot by next year.

So what is Google doing well? Well, in my opinion, Android is seeing some success mostly because there are so many devices with the operating system. Google could not have seen this type of growth with a single phone — especially since the operating system and applications aren’t nearly as polished and user friendly as the iPhone.

Why is it on so many devices? Google is free for hardware manufacturers to use — that sure beats spending money developing a home-brew operating system, or licensing something like Windows Mobile. This has no doubt lead to the numerous Android devices available today.

Even though the operating system is relatively consistent across many different handset manufacturers and models, Android gives users choice. Most people naturally want to both a) follow a crowd, and b) be different. Seems like an oxymoron, but with Android, it’s possible. All your friends could have Android devices made by different manufacturers, with different specs.

If you and all your friends have an iPhone, it can get boring after a while — it’s not special to own an iPhone anymore, so I’m guessing that’s why people are looking to be different.

What’s your take on these latest numbers? Do you think it’s possible they could be accurate? If they are, what’s your explanation for the success of Android?

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Garett Rogers has always had a deep interest in computers and the Internet, which led him to a degree in Computer Information Systems. He is currently employed as a programmer for iQmetrix.

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Garett Rogers

Garett Rogers is employed as a programmer for iQmetrix, which specializes in retail management software for the wireless industry. He has no other formal associations with any software or hardware companies.

Biography

Garett Rogers

Garett Rogers has always had a deep interest in computers and the Internet, which led him to a degree in Computer Information Systems. He is currently employed as a programmer for iQmetrix, which specializes in retail management software designed specifically for the cellular and electronics industry.

Garett's journey into Google started with his employer asking him to "get a better rank on Google." Diving into search engine optimization sparked his curiosity for how things work and led him to create a blog dedicated to what interests him most--Google.

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We Know Android Has Succeeded When the Fear & Loathing Starts!
Monarky 13th May 2010
@Stellardyne "all powerful Google"? lol... you need to stop reading iHitler Jobs latest novel "iMein Kampf"! Sorry... but if any company is trying to be all powerful, it isn't Google.... it's Apple!

So in case you aren't aware of this public information, Android is held by a group of hardware, service providers, etc. The group is called the "Open Handset Alliance". That's kinda like "Nato" or or "United Nations" in WWII against Hitler.

Actually Google isn't even the largest most powerful member. They are like France. They donated Android (which they paid for in 2005), to the cause, without expecting any returns. Each member has voting rights and a say so in how Android is developed. So there are more than just the original Android Developers, who do not work for Google btw. Google does donate funds to pay their salaries though. Just like the other 70 or so members! grin

http://www.openhandsetalliance.com/oha_members.html

It's not hard to see one of Apple's soldiers coming unglued (like you) over the success of it's competitors, though. Can't wait till HP gets rolling with WebOS and their Palm to the backside of the iPhone. We'll have another supposed big bully kicking sand in Apple's face. hmm.... wonder when HP (OHA Member) will be suing Apple? Well they'll at least wait for the inevitable Apple suing them first! haha...

Just think folks..... we'll be witnessing War of the Worlds Patent Holders, right from our own PC's, Cell Phones (w/flash), Laptops, etc obliterating every iNazi device Apple's iHitler owns! grin .....how do ya like them rotten Apples? "Android Locked Down"? ....yeah right, everything about Android is OPEN!
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As an iPhone user I enjoy the ease of use and simple OS upgrades. Don't Android users have to buy a new phone to get an OS upgrade because the installed OS is so device specific?
@Robert Feiger

For the most part, you don't need a new phone to update the OS. However, there are some hardware requirements which android phone may not meet to upgrade. For example, the original android G1 cannot upgrade to the 2.x version. Your iPhone is exactly the same though. The original and 3G iPhone will not be upgradable to the upcoming iPhone OS 4.
@mgy78 "The original and 3G iPhone will not be upgradable to the upcoming iPhone OS 4. "

says who? of course the iphone 3G will be upgradeable to OS 4, just not all features (i.e. multitasking) will be available...
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Geez, I am running 2.1 on my G1
Uralbas Updated - 11th May 2010
Who sais you can't?

Only newbies do or those who have no clue what they are talking about.

Yes its a custom rom, buts its cool and fast, just go to androidspin and look at their matrix.

Any rom for almost any android phone. So please.

Now Froyo Android 2.2 will run even on the G1. Thats more than what 4.0 will do on a Iphone 3, 3G or 3GS.

If you have an iPhone, you will only drool for what Android has, like they have for multitasking, form, options and now, flash, translation, google maps, google navigation, sky fire, should I continue?

FYI Android fans don't drool for iTunes, cause we have more options and alternatives.

Out of the box, their is only one thing that iPhones do better than Androids currently, and that's video cam and editing. Though its easily fixable with the money saved every month. There are many options on the Market.

How many Apple fans are coming over to Android?

How many Android fans are going over to iPhone?

NPD stats shows, that iPhone even though its increased over 130 percent since last year, it barely held its ground, while Android kept on growing.

In another year, unless Apple gives an impressive WOW factor or changes its stand on many fronts (ATT, Flash, dictartorship), Android will have more apps, more phones more market share, more options, more carries, more innovation, and iPhone will only be dust in the ground, like Palm is now.

Oh, and so many of you actually defend your ground on other opinions you found on the net. First you search for what you want, that narrows your vision considerably. I for one have had a 3GS and a 3G, jailbroke them and saw their capabilities. I will try the 4GS when it comes out, and return it. Wasting time and money on an iPad, only time wasted was at Best Buy. Tried it for a few things and realized its not worth my money.

Apple fans, please, try something before you trash it, you come out as very simple minded with statements like "you have to buy a new Android phone to upgrade the OS" ... please.
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@mgy78
Actually the G1 can run 2.1 as my phone is living proof...as is my other two friends G1's. You just need to know how to do it.
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RE: @Uralbas, how is your YouTube, how is your audio
Rama.NET Updated - 11th May 2010
I upgraded my G1 to Froyo and they are gone. I had to revert back to 1.6. Sorry, don't you think unlike the geeks like you and I, ordinary one wouldn't be interested in going for Custom ROMs. Isn't it one of the reasons WM failed. I lurk on XDA a lot more than anyone. I own vareity of WM and android devices, I started disliking upgrading ROMS because it is never ending. The main disadvantage of Android, the same WM faced, fragmentation. Apps that run on 1.0 may not run on 1.6 and so. This is due to problem that Google didn't have control on the hardware that the OEMs put on. Period. The same issue WM faced. In the case of Apple, they control the H/W and most of the 4.0 features available for older iPhones
--Ram--
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@kolvas The iPhone 3G and 3GS will be able to be upgraded to 4.0, but the first iPhone will not be able to upgrade to OS 4.0.
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Rama.Net
Uralbas Updated - 11th May 2010
@Rama.NET

Use OpenEclair v1.3.0. if you want a stable 2.1 OS bluetooth works, video not. But the G1 is not great with its camera or video capabilities. Youtube great! The one you are trying to use is clearly marked experimental.

Or go back to CyanoGenMod 4.5 which is stable and all runs well.

I use everything on my phone, but extend roms done by others for my personal use. So yes, all runs well on mine with version 5.

Fragmentation is only a problem for Verizon and Sprint users who just have 1.5. 1.6 has almost all the main features 2.0/2.1 has. I develop for 1.6 / 2.0 - 2.1 Very minor changes and recompiling is not an issue 2.2 should standardize everything.

We've stopped all Apple development cause its not worth the time if Apple thinks it competes against products it doesn't even carry.
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Uralbas, thanks for the help
Rama.NET 11th May 2010
@Uralbas
I used OpenEclair, but somehow I felt it is still unstable. I will wait for some more time for it to evolve. At this moment I am tired of upgrading custom ROMS. I don't know why JF stopped, but he had an updater that would update his custom ROMS OTA. I think Cyanogen should use that.
--Ram--
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Rama.NET YVW
Uralbas Updated - 12th May 2010
@Rama.NET

Hey, OpenEclair works. You said Froyo?? we just tried froyo last night on a G1 and on a N1 and Legend. I can tell you the following. G1 is Double the speed compared to the best standard rom 1.6 (TMob). the new JIT compiler does wonders. The G1 worked smoother than an iPhone 3GS! now thats something!
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@Robert Feiger

You don't have to buy a new phone in order to have a new Android OS! Think about going from Android 1.5 in Motorola Droid to Android 3.0 when it comes out. It does depend on hardware specifications (mostly CPU and memory), though.
@Grayson Peddie Yeah... these people just don't get it. These are the same people on iPhone that'd be happy in a dictatorship or communist society. Having all their choices made for them.

Most Apple Users would be Lost with Android!!!
Which Service Provider would you like, Sir or Ma'am? a.. do I have a choice? They'd flip out with Android on every service provider in the World.

How about keyboard and processor speed? How would you like them? YOU.... mean I'm free to choose???? shocked Yes it's a free and open society we live in here on Android! grin

You can also choose how you want your desktop to look! grin
What???? o.O shocked But.... but.... I don't know how to make those decisions for myself! (as they start going into brain overload and freaking out about being forced to make choices and decisions)

This is only one of the scenarios that no doubt would unfold if Apple offered true choice. Some people just don't know how to make decisions for themselves and so they try to lock others into fixed choices that aren't really there in the competition! wink
@Robert Feiger No. I bought my Motorola Droid and it had Android 2.00. After about a month of ownership, it was updated to Android 2.10. By the end of the year, I expect it to be updated to Android 2.20.

The reason the version of Android seems to device specific is because different devices are released at times of different Android OS's... and the manufacturers don't necessarily release updates at the same pace they come out. Nexus One's had Android 2.10 from launch. Mine didn't. Droid Eris users are still using Android 1.5, but it is expected that Droid Eris users will see Android 2.1 soon.
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A very sad trend
NonZealot 10th May 2010
@Robert Feiger

No offense but I've noticed that Apple owners, on average, have absolutely NO clue about the capabilities in competing products. You only believe what Steve Jobs tells you. Hint: Steve Jobs wants your money. He LIES to you in order to get your money. You wouldn't go to a Ford dealership to learn about the capabilities of a Chevrolet, why would you believe anything Apple tells you about Android?
@NonZealot

First, that is a pretty broad rationalization you are making. You could just as easily say that Windows users know nothing about Apple products because they do not care to actually learn anything about it. While it may be true in certain cases, it is certainly not the norm.

I am an Apple owner and do not recall Steve Jobs ever mentioning the upgrade process for Android phones. I will not speak for Mr. Feiger, but all of my Android info comes from scouring the internet and reading blogs, reviews and official releases. I have encountered several customer reviews that have mentioned upgrades that were not available until they purchased a new phone. Like any hardware/software solution, this is to be expected. Software is generally written for the most recent hardware capabilities. That tends to leave devices that are even a little older out in the cold. Just like iPhone OS 4 will finally drop the original iPhone from the supported ranks and leave the iPhone 3G missing some features.

Honestly, this whole Apple vs Windows/Google thing is getting old. We are a techie generation. We can understand the intricacies of more than one platform. Many of use dual or triple boot our machines to get the best of all worlds. Though there are still plenty of people that will pick a platform based on cool factor or some other nonsense, many of us choose based on what suits are specific needs, likes and wants. I chose to switch from Windows to Apple back in 2003 because I felt that the hardware and software integration was a wonderful solution. The same company that made the OS was designing the cases and developing (or acquiring and optimizing) the multimedia software. To me, this was great. No other company was doing anything like that. And although I see great improvements in Windows 7 AND some very solid hardware from Dell and HP, Apple is still doing it best in my opinion. And that is what it all boils down to. Each consumers opinion.
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@Robert Feiger
Umm...no...the problem is that the vendors are too slow to implement upgrades. My G1 is running Elcair just fine. So if you don't mind bypassing the cell phone company you are tied to, it is usually easy to upgrade.
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@Robert Feiger Android has an even simpler upgrade process than the iPhone - as soon as there is an upgrade, it is downloaded directly to the phone, installed by clicking "Install Now" and takes only about 10 minutes to upgrade. The iPhone on the other hand has to be connected to a computer and the upgrade processed through iTunes.
@explorer5 Every time I've installed iTunes, I've regretted. With it's built in malware and adware to upgrade Quicktime. Then you have to still contend with removal of their spyware process. It's so slow opening that I end up opening several instances, thinking it's not going to open.

I just use K-lite Mega Codec Pack with Media Player (classic) Cinema Edition. It plays everything and pops open in an instant!

So I don't think I'll ever be buying an iPhone if it requires iTunes!
@Robert Feiger Wrong. In fact, my phone has more ease of use, because not only does the OS upgrade, it does it on its own without me having to plug into a computer or have iTunes installed ANYWHERE.
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@Droid101 So, just how long after 2.1 was released, and shipped on the Nexus One did it take for you to get that over-the-air 2.1 update? Six weeks? Two months? Oh, that's right it was one week short of three months for Verizon and Motorola to get around to upgrading your device to the newest version of Android. Yeah, that's way better than being able to get an iPhone OS update the day it's released by simply plugging in your iPhone to your computer.
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@Robert Feiger That's fine! ...if you like being told what Service Provider to use, how your interface can look , the camera quality and whether it has one or two or none, what applications you can or can't install, locked in a controlled closed walled garden, what processor it uses and it's speed, only able to upgrade your OS if you have iTunes installed, locked to proprietary formats (H.264, aac, mov, etc), what hardware maker designer your phone was made by, all for an OS that isn't any easier than Android. Then go for it! grin

But given the CHOICE, most people in the civilized non-communist World are going to take FREEDOM of CHOICE.... over iPhone's intrusive dictatorial single device control scheme, on one service provider and without FLASH or Java when they should have the CHOICE!

btw.... learn about the competition first, before attempting to lock Android in on anything! ....especially software upgrades!
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wow
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@Monarky
level is pretty low here at zdnet but your post! wow, new quality. proprietary formats? H.264, aac? you gotta be kidding. please go back to ihateapplesomuch.com and post there.
@banned from zdnet Not really hard to hate on Apple with you and your twin brother DuesExMachina the Apple iDoozy around here. wink .....besides anyone with any common sense can see how much Apple wants to control the entire World YOU live in..... except YOU! lol
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Read the article
frgough 10th May 2010
It's all android OS phones, not just those sold by google. And the sales are driven by huge discounts and buy one get one free deals. So, yeah, when you practically give away your device, you're going to move a lot of them. What's really telling is that even with these huge discounts, ALL android OS phones from multiple vendors just barely squeaked by Apple. Who still isn't discounting phones and who is due for a phone refresh in June.
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@frgough Yes, and if hardware alone mattered to developers or if huge corporate profits mattered to consumers, then all of this would be great for developers and consumers.

The main driver for consumers is apps. The main driver of apps is developers. The main driver of developers is users. So, the more users of the OS (hardware notwithstanding), the more potential buyers for their apps (or users of their ad-driven apps). This, in turn, drives more apps... which, in turn, completes the circle.

The same thing happened in the game console business. Nintendo Wii outsold all other consoles. Some say it is because of the innovative motion controller. Others say it is because of the Nintendo brand. It shouldn't be ignored that the Nintendo Wii is much cheaper than the other game consoles. This doesn't mean the Wii is necessarily "better" (this is a very subjective term)... it just means that many more people can afford the Wii... which, in turn, makes the Wii more profitable for developers... which, in turn, drives more hype for the Wii... and this completes the circle.

The sheer "power" differences between the iPhone and today's best selling Android phones is minimal... not nearly as much as the power differences between the Wii and the other game consoles. The only differences are that the iPhone is "sexier" to some... but sexiness aside, people have cell phones to USE them... not just to show them off at coffee shops. So, at the end of the day, this is what brought Blackberry to the top originally... utility... not sexiness... and it is what is bringing Android phones to the top.

Now that developers clearly see that developing an Android app will reach more eyeballs than developing an iPhone app... you will see a shift in the development cycle. Rather than developing an app for the iPhone first, then rolling out an Android version later... this will reverse. You will see more developers programming for Android first, then rolling out for the iPhone later. Focus on the majority of the users first, the next wave of users next, etc... This is similar to the Mac/PC market where most developers write for PC first, then port to Mac then Linux. It is also similar to the browser market where developers write for IE first, Firefox next, and Chrome/Safari last.

Once apps start becoming available for Android phones first... and as more and more Android phones continue rolling out (I believe Motorola has about 12 more Android phones coming out in 2010)... the momentum will continue in Android's favor. Yes, selling hardware for cheaper (with buy one, get one free deals) is going to increase this momentum... and this should just be more of an incentive for Apple to lower their prices. If they don't, it will be clear where their consumer loyalties lie. Rather than being truly competitive, they're satisfied with just profiting huge from a smaller loyal consumer base with over-priced products. That's fine and that's likely where Apple is safe remaining. It works for them, but it doesn't work for the majority of the consumer base.

Combine all of this with the fact that Apple refuses to support Flash (and Android phones are expected to support Flash soon)... you'll see the continual increase of what Android phones support that the iPhones will not support... and the feature list will continue to lean in Android's favor. It's great for consumers, because it continues to provide choice for consumers, constant innovation in a market space which has been ignored for way too long (let's thank Apple for being the catalyst for this)... and everyone will finally be able to treat the smart phone market like they've been treating the computer market for all of these years. Android will be the new "Windows"... iPhone will be the new "Mac"... Blackberry will be the new "Linux"... and Microsoft will possibly struggle trying to strong-arm themselves past Blackberry, fighting for third place.
@BIGELLOW I guess that explains the success of the OVI store?

Nokia's smartphone sales dwarf all the US smartphone sales put together.

Except OVI is a failure compared to the App store.

Apple's Apps are compatible with iPod Touch's and the iPad as well as the iPhone, that's a hundred million devices WORLDWIDE.

Your scenario has a while to go yet, one segment of one market based on a survey rather than hard sales figures does not amount to much.
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@BIGELLOW

Great Comment. You nailed it!
@BIGELLOW

I agree with much of what you are saying here. It does all boil down to what will be profitable for developers to invest their time and energy into.

My one concern also follows your comparison of this battle to the desktop battle of yesteryear. The thing that started many people moving back to the Apple platform was OS X. That release showed the positive side to a company developing their own hardware AND software to work optimally together. I for one switched from Windows because of the bugs and issues involved from being spread (in my opinion) too thin across a vast market. Windows developers could not test using every known configuration out there. Not even close really. I personally got tired of tweaking my system after every big update to the OS. Apple coould control their product performance to a much higher degree.

I realize that this is a sticking point for many people. To me (and many other Apple users) this is actually one of Apple strengths. The "walled garden" is not for everyone. If you like customizing, tinkering and tweaking your system...look to PC's. If you like having a system that was built to work with very little upkeep...Apple fits the bill. Not everyone wants/needs the openness offered by Windows/Linus/ Google. I will gladly call one support line that gives me a technician that is VERY familiar with my entire setup. I did not get that from Windows, Dell or HP when I was still on that side of the fence. It was more akin to finding out which side was to blame for the problem. After about my third go-round of "That is a software problem.", " No, that is a hardware issue.", I just switched to a company that actually owned both sides of the equation.
@BIGELLOW And you think this is a good thing? It's called fragmentation, and good product managers try really hard to avoid it.

Consumer choice is great, but with everyone and their brother jumping on the Android bandwagon, the consumer is going have a very hard time differentiating devices brand-to-brand, let along within a brand (seriously-12 devices from 1 company?!), and backlash is bound to happen. The iPhone looks very attractive in comparison. Consumers know what it does, they know that every app they buy will run, and they know that they'll be able to get easy OS updates, for at least the near future. I predict a new term for the mobile sector analysts, "Android fatigue."
@frgough

The next iPhone was merely a whispered rumor in Q1 before the gizmodo leak, so the argument that people were 'holding out' doesn't hold much ground. That may the case for Q2 though, leading to an even larger market share loss for Apple. Hopefully iPhone OS 4 has some big tricks up its sleeves if it is going to compete with the upcoming Android Flash rollout.

Personally, I find that fact that Android phones are competitively priced with variety in design a strength of the platform, not a weakness.
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Barely squeaking by?
NonZealot 10th May 2010
@frgough
The trend suggests that your apology won't last more than a few weeks. Soon, Android sales will dwarf iPhone sales.

And only an Apple apologist would suggest that getting a discount on a product is a bad thing for consumers. I guess when Apple discounted the iPhone to $99, that suddenly made it perform less well? (Yes, you are LYING about Apple not discounting phones.)

Besides, if you are SOOOOO concerned about vendor profits, it looks like it is the cell companies that are eating the discounts. No one can show that HTC or Motorola are losing any money from these devices. And Google could sell these things at a loss and still make money from their ad revenues.

Consumers like Android phones. Why are you SOOOO threatened by this?
@NonZealot

So, shouldn't your name be BizarroZealot? You are a zealot, just on the opposite side. No one said that discounts on a product were bad. frgough simply stated that the discounted hardware can affect the end sales numbers. Much like the buy one/get one promotions that include many Android phones. It is a clever move that is paying off for Google.

As for the discount iPhone LIE that you speak of. You are twisting that a bit. Apple did not discount the iPhone 3G simply to boost overall iPhone sales. They released an updated product. They had to adjust the price of the previous model. It would be asinine not to. Would you pay the same price for a PS2 that you pay for a PS3? I think not. The 3GS will see a modified price once this new iPhone is released. That is just the way it is done.

It seems that frgough's point was more in line with the fact that Android OS is outselling iPhone OS by spreading itself out across MANY handsets over MANY carriers. Again, not a bad thing. But it does tend to skew the way these numbers are dissected. The iPhone OS is on four total devices that are being tracked. The phones are only offered on one carrier. That alone speaks volumes. Put the iPhone on Verizon, Sprint and T-Mobile and you would be seeing a completely different scenario. Then, on top of that, put the OS on some 20 different iPhone models with varying prices and functionality. Again, you would see a drastic change to these numbers.

Android is doing well. That is awesome. It is awesome for Google. It is awesome for all the carriers and it is ultimately awesome for ALL consumers. This drives innovation across the board. Apple has to stay sharp to maintain it's place (be that 1,2 or 3) and all the other handset makers have to keep pressing the envelope. Why are YOU sooooooo threatened by this?
@frgough
"So, yeah, when you practically give away your device, you're going to move a lot of them."

Pretty much all smartphones sold in the States are already heavily discounted through carrier subsidies. Also keep in mind that the Droid and especially the Droid Eris are cheaper than the iPhone 3GS, so the "discount" may not be that much bigger.
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Doesn't Apple have a motto "Think Different?" That motto does not seem to apply to how ever you want to customize your experiences with an iPhone. Perhaps an iPhone is about simplicity and elegance. Does Apple's motto of "Think Different" apply to that? Maybe this does not fit in well with anyone looking for a smartphone.

Methinks when people choose Android, I think "it's all about YOU!" If I'm correct, an Android phone is about "you." It's about how much you want to customize your phone to suit your taste, your lifestyle, and so whatever the things you can do with your phone, it's all about you.

But maybe that's not all of it that has to be you when it comes to choosing an Android phone, because not all phones are Android-based. Some users might go with Blackberry or Windows Phone 7 (when it comes out).

Or, could it be the halo effect that surrounds an iPhone user that starts to wear off when there are so many Android phones available?

There could be so many possibilities.

(Heh... This is my second time that I have to log myself out and back in in order to post my comment.)
@Grayson Peddie

You make some good points. Android does indeed seem to embrace the "customization" lifestyle. I compare it to someone buying a Civic and then tricking it out. That is great if you are into that stuff. I on the other hand, buy the car I want that will not require much attention from me. Sure, I can put some decals on it. Maybe I will tint the windows. But I will not be adding new components and installing nitrous. I am this way with computers as well. I buy a computer that has what I want and runs how I want it to. I may boost the memory if it seems to be dragging. That is about it. If that computer gets long in the tooth, it is probably time for a new one with the latest technology anyway.

Now how does this tie into your post? One, the iPhone (and really Apple as a whole) is about devices that are well designed and easy to use. If I wanted a challenge, I would run Linux or use a WinMobile phone. If I drive a Tesla Roadster I am "Thinking Different". But I may not be customizing my ride. It was different out of the factory. Not as many of them are on the road. Apply this to Apple. It was "different" from the norm. Using today's computer market shares, it still is.

On to your halo effect. If you look at the numbers and graph that accompanied this story on many sites, you will see that people are not abandoning the iPhone. Their numbers have stayed consistent. Android just made huge gains in the same time. They did not take iPhone customers per se. They took RIM customers. The numbers for RIM users dropped in this same period. WinPhone and Palm users also dropped. As many have stated (including myself) iPhone has held it's ground while maintaining exclusivity with AT&T and offering only two devices. That is still impressive considering the deluge of Android and RIM phones that are on the market...offered by every leading carrier. People HATE AT&T! Yet that is not keeping them from getting an iPhone.
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As an iPhone user - I'm holding out for the next version of iPhone and the leak(ish) of the prototype/next version/fantasy device probably has a lot of fanpersons waiting also. Plus, you eventually hit the ceiling of all the people willing to switch to AT&T.
@jumpsinpuddles

Pssst....

Gizmodo iPhone leak - April 19th
End of Q1 - March 31st
@mgy78

Oops...leak was March 19th.
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RE: RE: RE: Google selling more phones than Apple, but why?
pablo.station Updated - 10th May 2010
*IMO I think that the large gap that was there between iPhone OS and Android OS (quality-wise) is almost not there anymore.

*Any apple can argue that they have billions of apps in the app store but the average (normal) iPhone owner in reality has like 10-50 apps saved on their phone. Most of which are also available on Android.

*Hardware-wise iPhone is the same phone over & over again with minor upgrades, while Android is installed on many different types of handsets from many different phone manufactures. Choose one <img border="0" src="http://www.cnet.com/i/mb/emoticons/happy.gif" alt="happy">

*the reason Android is getting so big so fast is because its gotten so much better so fast in terms of usability. Not only the geeks and tech nerds buy Android but anyone who wants something more. Different.


"Sameness is the mother of disgust, variety the cure"
Petrarca Petrarch
Google's Android is open-source software. That contrasts to Apple's iPhone, and Microsoft's very closed 'Windows Phone 7', which will be a lock-up walled garden.

Microsoft thinks it will win with a closed platform, but it will lose by doing that.
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One thing which everyone seems to miss out is... that you are making wrong comparisons... iPhone is a handset while Android is an OS.. the correct comparison is either iPhone vs. Droid..etc... or iPhone OS (which would include iPod Touch along with iPhones) vs. Android... and i dont think there should be any prizes for guessing who comes out to be the winner in both fights...
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If you look at the graph
garethmcc 10th May 2010
The comparison is Android and Mac OSX. Android will never beat iPhone count handset for handset. But thats the point. One of the great advantages of Android is that as it becomes more pervasive, people can easily switch phones from one manufacturer to the next and still have the same, trusty, familiar OS they had on their previous phone. In other words, cell manufacturers need to compete on hardware features, while the OS is standard, which is as it should be.

If you want to stick to iPhone, you have a choice of Original, 3G, 3GS and the mystery phone. Not much choice really is there :S
@garethmcc

Actually, the comparison is between Android and iPhone OS. Mac OS X is the computer OS on their desktops and laptops.

And you are missing a point yourself.Android has to be tweaked for all those different handsets. That in itself can cause issues. Many apps will not work between the different Android phones. The feature sets are too varied to make every app universal on Android. Plus, many manufacturers are creating another layer of OS to slap on top of Android. This means that your HTC Android and Motorola Android may not be so similar after all.

Android has some great features. It is on its way to being a very solid product. But, like Windows before it, the massive saturation could backfire. If Android is on too many phone models that end up being garbage (and there have been/will be some). It starts to take a toll on the reputation.
The subject.
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You are all totally missing the point!!! Who cares what app functions blah, blah, blah, apple, iphone, blah... Why are consumers still following through with purchases of "two year contracts" against their better judgement and also appear to be cheaper for the consumer, but actually cost more for the consumer in the long run? Why should a cell phone plan that would easily sell for fifty to seventy dollars jump to around one hundred dollars? It's a phone people! A phone! It's not the next Messiah! For current consumer prices it should tell you the secrets of life and to the universe at the very least!
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Android is on a greater selection of hardware and more networks. The problem with the iPhone and the reason I will not get another one is the crappy ATT network.
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Apple is locked into exlusive deals for now and people are waiting for the new hardware. simple answer.
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Apple is locked into exlusive deals for now and people are waiting for the new hardware. simple answer.
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Extremely misleading
KiltedTim 11th May 2010
The headline is extremely misleading.

To begin with, Google is not selling more phones than Apple. Google makes and sells 1 device. The Nexus One. Android phones as a whole are outselling iPhones, but this includes all Android based devices from all vendors.

In a way, this does resemble the Dos/Windows Vs. Macintosh battle of old, however, it should be noted that Dos/Windows didn't really beat down the Mac market share. In January of 1984, the Mac had 0 market share because it didn't exist yet. Market share for the Mac has had its ups and downs, but continues to rise.

I'm reminded of the famous quote about lies, damn lies and statistics. You can make the numbers day whatever you want.
@Stellardyne "all powerful Google"? lol... you need to stop reading iHitler Jobs latest novel "iMein Kampf"! Sorry... but if any company is trying to be all powerful, it isn't Google.... it's Apple!

So in case you aren't aware of this public information, Android is held by a group of hardware, service providers, etc. The group is called the "Open Handset Alliance". That's kinda like "Nato" or or "United Nations" in WWII against Hitler.

Actually Google isn't even the largest most powerful member. They are like France. They donated Android (which they paid for in 2005), to the cause, without expecting any returns. Each member has voting rights and a say so in how Android is developed. So there are more than just the original Android Developers, who do not work for Google btw. Google does donate funds to pay their salaries though. Just like the other 70 or so members! grin

http://www.openhandsetalliance.com/oha_members.html

It's not hard to see one of Apple's soldiers coming unglued (like you) over the success of it's competitors, though. Can't wait till HP gets rolling with WebOS and their Palm to the backside of the iPhone. We'll have another supposed big bully kicking sand in Apple's face. hmm.... wonder when HP (OHA Member) will be suing Apple? Well they'll at least wait for the inevitable Apple suing them first! haha...

Just think folks..... we'll be witnessing War of the Worlds Patent Holders, right from our own PC's, Cell Phones (w/flash), Laptops, etc obliterating every iNazi device Apple's iHitler owns! grin .....how do ya like them rotten Apples? "Android Locked Down"? ....yeah right, everything about Android is OPEN!

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