Google Street View cars nabbed locations of Wi-Fi devices
Summary: Google Street View cars are at the center of a brand new privacy scandal after it was revealed that the search giant collected the street addresses and unique identifying information for millions of laptops, media players, and other wireless devices.
Google Street View cars are at the center of a brand new privacy scandal after it was revealed that the search giant collected the street addresses and unique identifying information for millions of laptops, media players, and other wireless devices. And until recently, the data was available to anyone who put in the right Google search.
The story emerged when the French data protection authority, known as the Commission Nationale de l'Informatique et des Libertés (CNIL), contacted our colleagues at CNET to confirm that its investigation had turned up the Street View cars' questionable data collection practices. Back in March, CNIL fined Google 100,000 Euros, or $143,000, but at that time it was unclear if the issue extended to client devices.
CNET's own investigation, published Monday, has the complete details on the history and context of this issue, including a list of questions that Google spokespeople have yet to answer. It's well worth a read for any dedicated follower of Google's privacy struggles.
But the really salient points are that Google has been collecting this data despite an earlier public statement claiming that "we collect the publicly broadcast MAC addresses of Wi-Fi access points." There's no opt-out method. And as noted above, the data was available through the Google search engine until late June.
Anecdotal evidence suggests that the location information collection was uneven at best, with some users poking into the database only to find that their location data is sometimes years out of date. That suggests that the location logging wasn't systematic.
The simplest explanation is likely also the closest to the truth: Just as Google Street View cars accidentally grabbed unencrypted Wi-Fi traffic, leading to a privacy scandal and lawsuits a-plenty, the search company probably gathered this data by accident - a supposition backed up by the incompleteness of the location database. Regardless, the legality of Google's data collection is definitely in doubt.
Google's troubles in this area brings to mind the iPhone tracking scandal, which resulted in headline-making legal headaches for Apple. And I wouldn't be surprised if this issue brought a whole new slate of class action suits to Google's desk.
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Public Airwaves and Privacy
If you want privacy AND want to use wireless, make sure your signal does not leave YOUR property.
This seems to be struggling to create an issue where none exists.
RE: Google Street View cars nabbed locations of Wi-Fi devices
Gathered by accident? I don't think so
GPS, sure, but that different then wifi.
The fact that it's speradic could be that their detection and storage method was flawed, nothing more,
RE: Google Street View cars nabbed locations of Wi-Fi devices
People should have nothing to hide is they are not terrorists or child molesters.
May be the collection was done on behalf of the NSA like any patriotic corporation should do.
RE: Google Street View cars nabbed locations of Wi-Fi devices
Write whatever you like, nobody will take your comments seriously. So whats the point???
LOL! That was your best one yet!
I told you if you keep at it you would hit your stride again!
RE: Google Street View cars nabbed locations of Wi-Fi devices
RE: Google Street View cars nabbed locations of Wi-Fi devices
RE: Google Street View cars nabbed locations of Wi-Fi devices
geesssh ... you're just another troll for the "people should have nothing to hide" crowd. Obviously you dont value your privacy like the rest of us do. Shades of Na*i Germany!
RE: Google Street View cars nabbed locations of Wi-Fi devices
I cannot think from your point of view. Exactly how flexible do you have to be to insert your head in your rectum before you type into ZDnet anyway ?
The problem...
... would seem to be that people aren't at least bright enough to not broadcast their wide open, unsecured wireless signal to the world. There are enough simple to implement security steps that would prevent someone from compiling a list like this. Are they perfect, no. Closing and locking your door isn't perfect, but it will keep the average Joe from walking into your house off the street in broad daylight. Don't broadcast your RFID. That's like closing your door. Use at least basic WEP encryption for all wireless traffic. That's like locking your door. Use more robust encryption if you feel your door needs a dead bolt. When a car driving by can pick up your RFID and MAC address without slowing down, imagine what an actual criminal can accomplish.
RE: Google Street View cars nabbed locations of Wi-Fi devices
Skyhok
The collection of access point names is legitimate, if they are trying to get away from Skyhook licensing fees. Collecting data, other than the MAC address and SSID of the router is however wrong.
This sounds like it is directly related to the first "scandal", they recorded both sides of the conversation, which means that they have the data from all devices in range, when they scanned, without filtering it... If this information was collected after the first scandal broke, then it is very bad, if it was collected with the first set of data, then this is old news.
Huh?
When a companies motto is "Do Evil" what do you expect?
Hmmmm
But I wonder how Linux Geek will react after seeing this article. Another conspiracy by Apple or Oracle or Adobe or Microsoft or ____ or all of them?
RE: Google Street View cars nabbed locations of Wi-Fi devices
You betcha!
they are badmouthing google for doing what's right.
see my post above.
RE: Google Street View cars nabbed locations of Wi-Fi devices
Yeah most people are not terrorists however some may not know they are broadcasting their finances, medical records, and any other number of personal (none of your business) files. They are ignorant of security settings on their network but not deserving of possible privacy violations of a company you deem so just. No company and I mean no company deserves such devotion that you espouse on Google. You are nuts.
RE: Google Street View cars nabbed locations of Wi-Fi devices
Google's actions may equate to criminal behaviour under european law. These 'software thugs' should be put in prison.
RE: Google Street View cars nabbed locations of Wi-Fi devices
But this time you've gotta start to wonder what is going on. Have they learned nothing?
Once again, though, I do wonder what they are using the data for so let me ask this. What MAC addresses do Android phones or the Chrome browser send to Google when they do location look ups? Do they send back all the MAC's they see, or just the MAC's from beacons?