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Christopher Dawson, Sam Diaz and Matt Weinberger

How will Google Wave be reincarnated?

By | August 4, 2010, 9:06pm PDT

Summary: Wave may have been removed from active development in Google Labs today, but it’s safe to say that it’s far from dead.

ZDNet’s Sam Diaz, among others, mourned the death of Google Wave on Wednesday when the company announced that it would no longer be developed due to lack of interest. While this story was widely reported as one of Google’s few failures. However, the mourners, naysayers, and critics are largely missing the point of a Labs group within an organization. Wave will most definitely rise again, with all signs pointing to some enterprise-class social features.

Google Labs is the home of projects Googlers want to test with a larger audience. Wave is one of the highest profile Labs projects and was released (and then revamped and more widely released) to considerable fanfare. Most of us in the technology press keep a pretty close eye on major projects that come out of Labs, After all, Google Docs and Spreadsheets, GOOG-411, Google Reader, iGoogle, Google Maps, and Google Groups all were once Labs projects.

Labs groups are popping up in many larger companies, where bureaucratic processes and rigorous structure tend to stifle innovation. Labs-like organizations are meant to be incubators for ideas where the best can mature and percolate to the top to be turned into real products for the larger company and the worst offer learning experiences and help develop new technologies. When projects succeed, you get great products like Microsoft’s Ribbon Hero or Google Docs. When they don’t succeed, you get Google Wave.

Yet as Google pointed out in their blog,

Wave has taught us a lot, and we are proud of the team for the ways in which they have pushed the boundaries of computer science…The central parts of the code, as well as the protocols that have driven many of Wave’s innovations, like drag-and-drop and character-by-character live typing, are already available as open source.

Wait a minute…Drag and drop? Google just announced that attachments could now be dragged right from Gmail in Google Chrome to a Google Apps user’s desktop. And drag and drop within Gmail has been supported for a while. Character-by-character live collaboration and multi-user editing? That was introduced in Google Docs not so long ago and is shown in the video below.

In contrast to a typical corporate environment, where failures can cost a company millions (or worse yet, a brand), a Labs setting values successes and failures equally. Failures, after all, are lessons learned and technologies built. Clearly, in this case, Wave has contributed directly to two of Google’s core enterprise products.

Perhaps a more important question is why would Google continue to support Wave when we all know that they are deeply involved in building social technologies? Many of the capabilities in Wave are ripe for social media applications, particularly those that could add considerable value for Google’s enterprise customers.

I, for one, am not mourning the death of Wave. I’m far more interested in the ways it will be reincarnated across Google’s existing products and in their not-so-secret pipeline. If Wave is dead, then long live Google Wave.

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Chris Dawson is a freelance writer and consultant with years of experience in educational technology and web-based systems. In 2011, he became the Vice President of Marketing for WizIQ, Inc., a virtual classroom and learning network SaaS provider.

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Christopher Dawson

Christopher Dawson is the Vice President of Marketing for WizIQ, Inc., by day and a freelance writer and educational technology consultant by night. Well, most of his colleagues at WizIQ are based in India, so really he's working with them whenever he can stay awake. He has worked for his local school district as a teacher and technology director, for the Johns Hopkins University School of Public Health, and for Biogen, Inc. (now Biogen-IDEC, Inc.). He has also consulted with STATNet and Cytyc Corporation and retains close ties with X2 Development Corporation (now owned by Follett Software, the supplier of the student information system he administered for several years). Follett is paying him a monthly honorarium to act as a presenter for their "SIS Voices for Student Achievement" community (he produces occasional blog posts and hosts a monthly webinar on the use of student information systems to inform data-driven instruction and school-wide change. He regularly purchases and/or recommends Dell hardware. This is because Dell makes good hardware and has truly committed itself to education in innovative ways, particularly with their "Connected Classroom" initiative. It isn't because he has dealings with the company through his role at WizIQ (which he does) or because they have provided him with long-term loans of a variety of equipment for in-depth testing (which they have). Intel (reference designer for the Classmate PCs he has implemented in his local schools) has provided him with long-term loans of Classmate PCs for testing, as have Dell and Lenovo with their educational offerings. He may report on any of these companies as his experiences with them have direct bearing on educational technology; positive reports are not necessarily an endorsement and he receives no direct financial compensation from these companies or any others. Intel paid all expenses for his attendance at the 2009 Intel Classmate PC Ecosystem Summit which he attended as the sole representative of the technology press. He was invited to attend in 2010 but his wife would have killed him if he spent 3 days in Vegas geeking out and left her home alone with a new baby. Acer provided him with a 50% discount on an Aspire One netbook in early 2009 after he tested it for 30 days through their educational seed program. He liked the netbook at the time but it has since broken and sits unused in his office. Canonical sent him Ubuntu lanyards, t-shirts, and mousepads for his kids. He stole one of the lanyards and proudly hangs his keys from it and occasionally features his 8-year old wearing an oversized Ubuntu t-shirt on his Facebook profile. Gunnar Optiks sent him a pair of computer glasses to evaluate for a holiday gift guide. He is wearing them now as he types this because they never asked for them back and they rock out loud. Seriously - they work brilliantly and make it much easier to spend 20 hours a day staring at an LCD. If they ever asked for them back, he would fork over the $99 and buy a pair. Microsoft gave him 2 free copies of Office 2010 professional, a desktop clock, and a useless book on Office 2010 when he attended the launch of Office/Sharepoint 2010. He occasionally uses the SharePoint lanyard they gave him instead of the Ubuntu lanyard for his keys, but feels dirty afterwards. Adobe provided him with a pre-release version of the CS5 Master Collection for evaluation and ultimately provided a full, licensed copy for ongoing testing of educational applications of this admittedly expensive software. Like the Gunnars, if the license expires or they come out with CS6, he'd actually go out and buy it himself. Which is saying something, because he's actually pretty cheap. Any other companies wishing to send him cool things to evaluate, wear, or otherwise adorn his kids are more than welcome to; he promises to disclose it here if he keeps any of the stuff. Finally, because WizIQ is a virtual classroom and learning network provider, Chris, as VP of Marketing, frequently interacts with, seeks out deals with, and directly or indirectly competes with a whole lot of LMS, SIS, and other Education 2.0 companies. In general, he'll limit his reporting about these companies to news that does not impact his relationship with them or with WizIQ. If he reports on them, it's because what they are doing is newsworthy or worth the attention of his readers and not because he's trying to broker some deal, damage competition, or otherwise advance his position in his day job. LMS and SIS companies, along with other online learning communities, are a pretty important part of Ed Tech. If he stops reporting on them completely, there won't be a whole lot left. He'll be sure to call out any overt conflicts of interest if they are unavoidable. Finally, Follett Software Company pays him a little tiny honorarium every month to present on their SIS Voices webinars and to write the occasional blog or discussion thread for them. Since Follett recently bought X2 (maker of an awesome web-based SIS that Chris just happened to have used, served in advisory groups for, and frequently reported on), this is probably also worth disclosing.

Biography

Christopher Dawson

Christopher Dawson grew up in Seattle, back in the days of pre-antitrust Microsoft, coffeeshops owned by something other than Starbucks, and really loud, inarticulate music. He escaped to the right coast in the early 90's and received a degree in Information Systems from Johns Hopkins University. While there, he began a career in health and educational information systems, with a focus on clinical trials and related statistical programming and database modeling. This focus led him to several positions at Johns Hopkins, a couple-year stint in private industry, teaching high school math and technology, and 2 years as the technology director for his local school district. Most recently, he started his own consulting business and is now the Vice President of Marketing for WizIQ, Inc., a virtual classroom and learning network provider. He lives with his wife, five kids (yes, 5), 2 dogs, and a hateful cat in a small town in north-central Massachusetts. Although he is no longer teaching, his roles with WizIQ and ZDNet allow him to continue helping students and teachers add value to education with technology rather than merely adding to the bottom line.

Talkback Most Recent of 10 Talkback(s)

  • Anyone like to explain Wave
    We got FUD, we got fanbois. What we didn't get was a clear explanation of what Wave was and how it differentiated from email and social networks.

    I still find parts of Gmail impenetrable, Buzz was as clear as mud and Wave was a mystery.

    This might explain why Wave was retired wink
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    tonymcs@...
    4th Aug 2010
  • Wave is not dead
    At http://wavelook.com, we've created the first and only Wave client for Outlook and our wave web app is in private beta.
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    WaveLook
    5th Aug 2010
  • Google wearing partners thin
    Time after time Google presents "the next big thing". Time after time ISV jumps on the hype bandwagon in the hope that being early movers will land them a competitive advantage.

    But after being burned again and again, ISVs will grow more suspicious towards new hypes.

    Floating and hyping new ideas not only incurs the cost of development and marketing. The failed hypes also takes a toll on Googles image and their ability to drum up support in the future.

    Google is using wave inside their own products, fine! How about all those software vendors who banked on Wave growing as big as Google promised?
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    honeymonster
    5th Aug 2010
  • Not a failure
    I don't believe Wave is a failure. I think its an idea who's time simply has not come yet. Whatever comes next, people will see Wave as its forerunner.
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    ITsupportGuy
    5th Aug 2010
  • Yes, a failure
    @ITsupportGuy

    In its present form it is a failure. Not a technical failure. It is merely that some advanced need some middle stations. Some advances need the community to be cultivated and become ready for them.

    I agree that we need something like Wave. Google should pick it apart and start designing a standard with partners, e.g. Apple, Microsoft, IBM or Oracle. Google has some experiences from Wave to offer.
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    honeymonster
    5th Aug 2010
  • Wave as a Google Group?
    Group message boards, like Google Groups and Yahoo Groups, are cumbersome to read and maintain. The main problems are inline replies (copying the whole message!) and the inability to directly reply to something other than the last message. Google Wave could be spectacular as a Groups type forum. I wish Google Groups will switch over to a wave-like format.
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    tn77
    5th Aug 2010
  • RE: How will Google Wave be reincarnated?
    It's a real shame. The real-time multi-user apps supported by wave have a great future. We have a Google Wave travel-planner called "Travel WithMe", and people love the real-time experience.

    Sensing that wave might not be going places, we've put it on facebook now as well, but still with Google Wave's realtime features. It's at apps.facebook.com/travel-withme.
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    AndrewSittermann
    5th Aug 2010
  • RE: How will Google Wave be reincarnated?
    Personally, i'm sad. I liked Google Wave a lot, and in some scenarios, it was the best tool around to get the job done. I wish they integrate it into gmail as an optional "wave mode".
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    Vahidm
    5th Aug 2010
  • RE: How will Google Wave be reincarnated?
    nice article. this is what i love about Google: they are not afraid of failures. this encourages innovation amongst employees since innovation is majorly based on risk taking.
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    boxieblue
    6th Aug 2010
  • RE: How will Google Wave be reincarnated?
    I'd say Drop.Io but that was here first.
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    prof.ebral
    6th Aug 2010

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