Office 2010: Can it beat Google Docs at its own game?
Summary: Office 2010, combined with Sharepoint 2010, is a powerful collaboration platform. But is it powerful enough to beat Google Docs even though it's drastically more expensive?
Although it was hard not to be enthusiastic about some of the Office and SharePoint features unveiled at Wednesday's Office 2010 launch, I had to wonder how much of what was unveiled was just a pretty, expensive face on Google Docs. I also had to wonder if that pretty face was enough to beat Google Docs at its own collaborative game.
As Janice Kapner, Microsoft's Senior Director of Information Worker Product Management, noted when we spoke after the launch, the word "collaboration" means different things to different people. From my perspective, Google had the market cornered on collaboration for quite a while, though, allowing for the simultaneous creation of content in their Docs products. For the low, low price of $50/user/year (or for free if you were an educator or were willing to sacrifice some features), Google Apps subscribers could share and create everything from websites to presentations to spreadsheets together, regardless of their physical location.
Sure, the documents might not be the most beautiful creations unveiled to mankind, but they could genuinely be team efforts without complicated commenting and versioning, emailing, and reconciling. Other people, as Ms. Kapner noted, viewed collaboration in the context of social and communication mechanisms. While Google wasn't Facebook, it certainly bundled enough powerful, fast communication tools with Apps that businesses could tap this aspect of collaboration quite handily as well.
Microsoft had introduced SharePoint a while back, improving document management and sharing capabilities within Microsoft-centric organizations, but the real time capabilities that Google could offer just weren't there. Where Apps lived and breathed the connected Web for organizations that adopted it, Office and its approach to collaboration (however you want to define it) among information workers felt decidedly pre-Facebook.
That feeling changed, however, on Wednesday. Office 2010 combined with SharePoint 2010 is such a polished, powerful platform that it feels like it's leapt ahead of Google Docs in collaborative potential. But was that just marketing spin and a great presentation at NBC Studios? After all, when the presenters noted that they could finally simultaneously edit documents using the features of SharePoint, I couldn't help but wonder just how long that had been possible in Google Docs. Later, I tweeted
Speaker from KPN is talking about the idea of workspace so workers to [sic] do their jobs anytime anywhere. Sounds like Apps :)
As the presenters demoed Outlook 2010, it was like deja vu all over again:
Outlook now supports conversations. I think Gmail has been doing that for a while. Like since its inception.
So was Microsoft introducing anything particularly new in the 2010 products or were they just putting a better UI on old Google features? As it turns out, I think it was a bit of both. To some extent, Office 2010 takes the best collaborative features of Google Docs, combines them with an improved Office look and feel, and even manages to render them on the Web and Windows Mobile smartphones with incredible fidelity. Not new, but pretty and highly usable.
On the other hand, the social layer introduced by SharePoint out of the box gives organizations an immediate in-house social network that can rival anything Facebook has to offer. The Office suite itself provides everything from extraordinary data mining and business intelligence capabilities natively within Excel to social networking and noise reduction features in Outlook that don't exist anywhere else in terms of productivity software (in the cloud or on the desktop).
The trouble comes when trying to really assess the value proposition in the Microsoft vs. Google war. Google gives you everything it has with frequent updates to features and service for $50/user/year. SharePoint Online (Microsoft's hosted version of SharePoint and the only product for which enterprise pricing is published) starts at $63/user/year and this doesn't even include the initial cost of Office licensing. Microsoft cited Forrester research suggesting extraordinary returns on investment due to increased productivity from Office/SharePoint 2010 adopters, but the initial costs (particularly if organizations look to deploy SharePoint internally instead of using Microsoft's hosted service) are tough to ignore.
In the end, as always, organizations must fully understand their needs if they want to invest in the right platform. However, while I think that ZDNet's Zack Whittaker is wrong when he says that Google Docs no longer stands a chance, Google is suddenly the one playing catchup to some powerful and compelling features in Microsoft's 2010 offerings.
So, um, Google...Got any plans for that Apps-integrated social network I was talking about?
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Can Google beat MS Office at its own game?
OpenOffice works very well with GoogleDocs and Zoho. It's like my Offline Google Docs. Also very useful when the Internet is slow or not available.
The extension OpenOffice.org2GoogleDocs (gdocs_2.2.0.oxt 2.2.0) helps me upload to Google Docs or Zoho in just 2 clicks!
No need to buy
If Google wanted to do that, they could just fork and go with a new version. They don't want to do that, though: their main sales point is no deployed apps.
Well, MS would probably love to have Google try to fight them on their own
RE: Office 2010: Can it beat Google Docs at its own game?
Now I'm not saying that Google Docs will "win", but more and more public schools are moving to Google Docs every day. As OpenOffice gains more visibility in the plain old user market it will gain market share. Yes, OpenOffice has it's share of issues, but when it's essentially free people tend to accept these.
In the end I think the winner will be the consumer. They will have the choice of using either or both based on their needs.
As long as Google keeps pushing their cloud apps
Plus nothing beats full featured office suites. Google Docs doesn't come close to being able to replace MS Office or OOo for that matter.
I don't trust cloud computing either
I second that. First, the best security is physical security, and second, the best backup is a physical backup.
However, I've used Google Docs to collaborate with off-site workers in outside organizations, and it was fast and effective. If Google could build an MS Office plug-in or more specifically a plug-in for Excel and Word that would update an on-line (cloud) document with changes made to a hard drive based primary version, and allow careful updating of a hard drive based primary version from a Google Docs version, the consumer would no doubt win, but Google could prevent SharePoint from taking over the Cloud.
I like Apple's old idea of "Publish" which they introduced circa 1990 in Mac OS 7.1 before the "cloud" was even a tinkle in anyone's eye. But even now I use Google Docs to rapidly collaborate, I'm just careful to keep it subject to my physical copy and extra careful to keep proprietary info from getting into the "cloud" version. Extra work, but does the trick.
RE: Office 2010: Can it beat Google Docs at its own game?
This is not exactly what you want, but do you know about DocVerse? It's practically a hosted Sharepoint killer.
http://www.youtube.com/googleapps#p/a/u/0/qSfNQ0WeHXE
RE: Office 2010: Can it beat Google Docs at its own game?
RE: Office 2010: Can it beat Google Docs at its own game?
Easy answer
And, the price pressure on MS Office is only going to get stronger.
Looks like Google was the one
The problem is that while Google is busy building their apps to force people over to their cloud, MS looks to building things that apply to the needs and wants of the people using them.
The competition is very good for the consumer. Microsoft has been forced to
Then why didn't Google notice
All they've done these last years is stay at "wannabe"
RE: Office 2010: Can it beat Google Docs at its own game?
Google scares me, whether it be their moniker (do no evil), or the fascade they hide behind (the coolness factor, anti-MS), the fact remains that they make money of your information and providing that to others, whether it be anonymously or not. I use google search on an hourly basis if not more, but I do so with the knowledge that my searches are mined and I don't really care. Most business cannot afford this luxury with internal documents, IP and the like.
Also, many organisations I know won't touch google docs for this very reason, and it's an important one. Regardless of features, in Australia I have seen many company go down the docs path due to cost, then return to the MS hosted path due to issues and lack of support. Microsoft is setup to support it's users, google relies on community support, with continual stories of no returned emails or no contact from those users that find themselves in trouble.
For these reasons, MS can justify a much larger price. The technical basis is such a small part of the puzzle - business cannot base itself on any product set that suffers these ills, without even factoring in the retraining costs and other costs of change.
I even had a contact at a lage US company that switched to docs advise they had a special agreement with google that their data wouldn't be mined / would be silo'd before going ahead. This alone gives me pause.
Information is really one of the last remaining valuable things left - if you give up the right to this, it is a scary world indeed. Nothing in life is free, it just gains value by other means - I can't believe this was ignored in this artical.
(however, I do agree that google docs is a great product, assuming the above doesn't bother you)
does Google docs exist?
I don't think it will take much to beat Google Docs...
As you might be able to tell, I'm not impressed with Google Docs ;)
RE: Office 2010: Can it beat Google Docs at its own game?
Google bought Docverse
http://www.docverse.com/