5 top reasons it might be time for an iOS desktop

By | March 23, 2011, 5:01am PDT

Summary: What do you think? Is it time for an iOS desktop?

The above is a mock-up of a possible iOS desktop device. Blame neither Apple nor Photoshop for your esteemed author’s lack of mocking-up skills.

As many of you know, I’ve often been critical of Apple for the restrictive and closed nature of its iOS. I’ve complained that users should have the freedom to modify their devices in any way they see fit, and companies like Apple shouldn’t dictate what device owners can and can’t do. I’ve also been critical of Apple because of some of the reported conditions at its factories.

Then I had the opportunity to observe my neighbor in his natural digital habitat. As I wrote Monday, I have an elderly neighbor who’s a malware magnet. Although this last bout of malware was the fault of the security companies who left him high and dry, it’s anyone’s guess when he’ll get himself in trouble again.

See, my neighbor loves the Internet. He surfs, clicks, downloads, and opens attachments with reckless abandon. You can almost picture him hanging his head out of the car window as it roars down the information superhighway, yelling “Whee, whee, WHEE!” at the top of his lungs.

My neighbor desperately needs a restrictive and closed OS.

Many of you suggested we should move him to Linux, but with this man’s ability to get himself in digital trouble, Linux is not the weapon of mass destruction we want him to get his hands on. My wife fears for our home’s safety if I get my hands on a plasma cutter (for good reason!) and our neighborhood fears putting more power in my friend’s hands.

But iOS is perfect! He can be locked into a browser that doesn’t support add-ons. He can be locked into an OS that doesn’t support modification. He can be locked into using email, but only opening attachments that are safe to open.

With iOS, my friend could be set free, free to roam the wild Internet, free to click to his heart’s content, free to open silly email attachments from his buddies, free to play all the Flash games… Oh, wait, well, maybe not that free.

Of course, he could have this freedom now with an iPad, except he’s a senior citizen in his 80s, and uses his current 22-inch monitor at 1024×768. The iPad screen is just too small.

We actually thought about using the HDMI port on the iPad 2 and feeding that to a large monitor. The problem is, he’d still have to look at (and actually see) the small screen to control the large screen, and that’d be a problem for his eyes.

What he really needs is an iOS desktop computer. He needs a computer with a big screen that’s got all the draconian strictness of iOS. XP can’t reign him in. Windows 7 can’t reign him in. Linux might reign him in, but Linux might also give him unnatural and dangerous superpowers. What he needs is iOS.

So what would an iOS desktop machine look like?

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RE: 5 top reasons it might be time for an iOS desktop
jfreedle2@... 1st Jun
It is a blessed day in which I never open a web browser. Local application offer many benefits that will never be seen with a web "application". All web browsers were never designed to host "applications", so people should stop trying to make web pages mimic applications. You should develop applications which run local to whatever operating system that the people are using and then tie that back to the data center system. It works best that way. Why do you think businesses are now developing applications that go on these mobile devices, but accessing web pages suck to replace applications. Web pages are designed to replace newpapers and magazines, and that is it.
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No.
wolf_z Updated - 23rd Mar 2011
Look, just because you don't have two brain cells to rub together when it comes to security Win 7 doesn't make it that hard.

Install MSE, Run a restricted account and don't give him the admin password. Problem (mostly) solved. For the rest there's group policies.

Jeez. As if we needed another desktop...

To anyone who complains, the author specifically *said* he wanted a locked down OS...
@ David Gewirtz

OH LORD
by a wide margin than the Windows 7 competition. That could be a huge mass market success that Apple has not had yet in desktops. In any case, iOS is a ton more secure than Windows 7 out of the box with nothing special to do. With Windows 7 security, it is only safe if you know what you are doing.
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@DonnieBoy I agree with you...as long as you don't touch it and do nothing productive iOS is the most secure OS in the world.
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@DonnieBoy Donnie, I haven't thought someone was more deserving of a hug until now.

Here is YOUR hug.

I think you have completely lost it.
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Yeah right...
cosuna 23rd Mar 2011
@wolf_z : last week we had a virus circulating on the office. We all thought that the "trend setter" group with Win 7 virtual machines (yep... no direct access to the hardware) would fare better than our 10-year old Windows XP system.

What happened? Several XP system didn't even got infected, while all the VMWared sandboxes got infected spreading the virus to the host (also Windows 7 Enterprise), even without having admin rights, which were prohibited by IT.

So, stop joking about Win 7 "security" and start facing the fact that deep down, Windows 7 is Windows, with tens of thousands of insecure dlls prone to an attack.

P.S.: All systems were hardened by IT and UAC settings were on high with no possibility of change
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I don't believe
sackbut 23rd Mar 2011
@cosuna a word you are saying.
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@cosuna

Well I cannot just base my opinion of your comment of your lack of English comprehension but I can tell with what you wrote you obviously have no clue what you're talking about.

Windows XP is the Swiss Cheese of security holes although many have been patched it still gets a ton of security updates monthly. Windows 7 may get a couple a month.

I do IT work for a large corporation and we run XP machines and Win7 Machines. We by default turn off UAC and have some security hardening. We still don't run into those issues. Maybe you work for a 10 person company with an incompetent IT department? Sounds about right.
@cosuna ... Goes to show ... win7 is just Vista re-heated, which is ... .
@wolf_z >>Look, just because you don't have two brain cells to rub together when it comes to security Win 7 doesn't make it that hard.

Tee hee
Maybe hp with webOS will head up in that direction. Or someone may build an android 3 iso for desktop, customized for mouse use instead of touch. But i don't think that apple will ever do that. Or it will, but it will cost you 2000$ or something close.
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@d.marcu Stop it with the expensive crap. WHile Apple doesn't support the low end market their prices are in line with Dells and HPs with the same specs and in the tablet market.. they've actually beaten the competition with prices. Stop the FUD please!
@Tablazines, true but what if you can't afford a top line product? hp, dell etc have products for those who live in countries where you don't earn the same amount of money as those in more developed countries. Here the cheapest mac costs 1800$ (24%VAT + import fees + retail stores interest etc), an ipad 1000$, iphone 1000$ while a salary average is 300 - 350$. And i can assemble a pc with the same configuration of a mac for 300$
@d.marcu

A keyboard, and a touchscreen monitor, pre-installed and preferably pre-calibrated. Just need to have it put together such that it won't be rooted by some script/program.
with screaming quad-core Arm chips. I see ChromeOS taking the lead here with native client providing super fast native applications for things like video editing. But, would love to see HP push WebOS as well.
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Windows 8.
P. Douglas Updated - 23rd Mar 2011
Hopefully Windows 8 will be what your friend needs. If Windows 8 does in fact come with a touch interface, touch oriented apps, an app store, etc., you will have desktops with touch screens of various sizes, which pivot between 0 and 90 degrees, and look something like this . (Also see here.)
@P. Douglas
and we might just see it in about 3 years. Phew. Hope it's worth the wait.
just way too far into the future. By the time it comes out, Apple will have released two more versions of iPad, and Google will have released a few more versions of both Android and ChromeOS. Oh, and lets not forget about HP working on WebOS.
@P. Douglas Kinect technology might work better than touch for a desktop. They need to work out pinching gesture instead of that hovering though. Kinect is definately capable of emulating that experience without the fingerprints or reaching.
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Just like courier...
cosuna 23rd Mar 2011
...this are just Silverlight for (Windows) Embedded facades/demos.

Up until know, these had no IDE, no API nor any SDK. Today (with WP7), what Microsoft has created is SL4WE "launchpad" which executes third party applications using a Silverlight 4.0 plugin or and XNA plugin. Since this architecture is built as a plugin there's no native API now nor never, and "apps" (which are really content for SL4.0) can't access the launchpad in any way.

With that said, Windows 8, might be even more restrictive than iOS, so I don't see it as a candidate for any future development, aside from "fancy" initial work (just as Silverlight on the Web).
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Or Windows 9, or...
Economister 7th Apr 2011
@P. Douglas

Windows 10 wink
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The elephant in the room
JohnVoter 23rd Mar 2011
When will Windows, Linux or OS X reach a point where we don't learn of major security flaws every week? If you found your uncle leaving the house without pants day after day, you would start taking precautions. The people who frequent sites like this, myself included, are highly likely to be programmers and experimenters. But for 99% of what you and I and the general population require, an inherently closed environment is probably more suitable than the traditional OS.
@JohnVoter
By all means, unplug yourself from the internet, JV!
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Don't use iOS so I don't know, but.....
Economister 23rd Mar 2011
that is certainly the the direction the consumer OS is heading. Apple, Google and HP will surely move towards common OSs from smart phones to desktops for lighter consumer environments. It just makes too much sense for it not to happen. The non-techie consumer will rejoice.

And this is MS's nightmare scenario. I can't wait for it to play out.
@Economister

"And this is MS's nightmare scenario."

It sure is. I love where this is all heading and also can't wait to see it play out. Microsoft have to worry not only about iOS following the same path of domination like the iPod, but WebOS, BB PlayBook, Chrome OS, Android OS.....

I think everyone is staking their own claim on the mobile market. It's set to explode leaving the traditional desktop space in its dust (for most gen consumers that is).
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One minor issue with your analysis
use_what_works_4_U Updated - 23rd Mar 2011
David,
Generally I think you are spot on here for the demographics you defined and the reasons you discussed, with one glaring exception. You stated
He can be locked into using email, but only opening attachments that are safe to open.
and my jaw dropped.

Yes, for now Apple has limited the experience enough that you don't have to worry about nasty file attachments. As is so frequently pointed out, though, there is no such thing as hack proof OS. At some point iOS will be popular enough that malware will begin to target it. I'm surprised it hasn't happened already to be honest, and the rise of the iPad only makes it more likely.

Whether it's an email attachment or a malicious website (CanSecWest anyone?) iOS is vulnerable and people like your neighbor and my step-dad will get bitten. With luck the constrained experience will mitigate/minimize the damage, but damage will be done. That's why McAffee and Sophos already have iOS apps. I'd keep that in mind when iOS comes to the desktop. It will eventually. I give it 3 years at most (but I've been wrong before).
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@macadam Yeah, I was thinking that, too. If it was an account on my server, I'd block attachments at the server level, but that's out of my hands.

The only possible saving grace (and I'm convinced this can be broken, even on a non-jailbroken machine) is that the iOS apps tend to have application-only data stores.

Of course, a malicious piece of code that breaks EMAIL and then decides to exfiltrate data could be quite productive (in an evil sort of way) just grabbing data from an email database.

Sigh. There are bad people out there. Makes these things far more work than they should be.
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@macadam While I agree that iOS will become a target or at least more of a target mentioning the McAffee and Sophos apps is a bit miss leading. These are not security apps as you would think based on your statements. These are apps that keep you alerted to current threats for all OSs, they do not provide security at all.
@David,
You say that iOS is porn free, but it really isn't. Maybe you can't get porn apps, but Safari can surf to porn sites with the best of them! And many of them are changing to HTML5 to avoid Flash. At least that is what I hear!
@John_DeG
I think it was irony. It's no different to any other browser except it doesn't have flash.
Chrome OS is better suited for this purpose than iOS.
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@30otnix Chrome OS doesn't have the apps iOS has, altough I agree it is a pretty good choice and probably will end up with cheaper solutions than an iOS-based desktop.

I wrote about a similar experience with my own Father-in-law.

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/perlow/the-pc-industrys-forgotten-market-grandpa/15207?tag=mantle_skin;content
@jperlow
On a desktop, the concept of 'Apps' just goes back to being all-that-stuff-that-I-do-over-the-internet-and-don't-need-the-helpful-formatting-and-trendy-packaging-of-an-"app"-for-doing-the-same-on-my-desktop.
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No
Michael Alan Goff 23rd Mar 2011
It isn't time for an OS that does less than a desktop to be put on a desktop.
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Who are you to say?
LTV10 24th Mar 2011
@goff256

Are you King Of Software or what...

I say open your mind and bring it on!
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It's just an opinion
Michael Alan Goff 24th Mar 2011
If I was going to use something that doesn't give me the capabilities of a Desktop OS, it would be ChromeOS. Chrome is faster than Safari.
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Then qualify that by saying so
LTV10 26th Mar 2011
Instead of making ridiculous, definitive statements like that.

I personally would like to see another OS out there, even though I recognize there are other forces (who shall go nameless) out there who don't.
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ROFLMAO, is this a serious comment? Sure, why should my computer do actual work, run actual programs when I can spend my days playing Angry Birds?
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You missed the point
use_what_works_4_U 23rd Mar 2011
@timspublic1@...
This article isn't about a computer for you and I, it's about a computer for my Mom, David's octogenarian friend, schools and libraries. In other words it's about providing an appliance with a limited subset of functions to people who only need that subset and don't know how/need to deal with the hassles that more capability brings with it.

This would never be a solution for many (if not most) of us. I will say, though, that if I weren't convinced of the lecture I'd get for spending my money on them I would have long ago purchased an iPad for my mom and step-dad. This is exactly what they want - a way to get online (reasonably safely) without having to know anything about computers.
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@macadam and beleive it or not most schools and libraries already have the group policy installed on them to limit the set of applications, web-sites, and other things that the user can do. It is SOOO much easier to dumb down a PC with a decent OS than to try to invent a solution when all you have is already dumbed down OS. I am sure OEMs (like Dell, HP etc) can easily create a really dumbed down account for the general public
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@pupkin_z

" Believe it or not", one of my major clients is a mid-sized school district. They limit applications, they block quite a few websites over and above what the province already blocks, they keep their anti-malware tools up to date. And still they have problems. Too damn many pieces of malware from sites that have been hijacked as one example. Malware that goes we don't need no steekin' administrator rights; we can get them for ourselves. Malware when you visit a trusted site that is now dispensing scareware -- some of which is getting harder to remove than a rootkit.

My opinion for what's it worth is that the only way to protect those machines properly would be to disable the NICs, plug the USB slots with epoxy, rip out the optical drives and generally turn them into paperweights.

As for my local library, they finally reached the point of running VMs on their public access desktops. Each user gets a fresh copy. This was the only way they found to keep their machines up reliably and keep one user from causing issues for subsequent users.
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@timspublic1@... As macadam point out you completely missed the point. I actually thought there were some good points but based on past pieces by David I also thought there was a lot of back handed compliments going on.

This would be a great fit for a lot of uses. I can see a family having a few of these on their home network. Each kid could have one in their room allowing them to do what they need for school, safe games to play. Apart from the screen costs these should be fairly cheap to produce so could be priced where it's not unreasonable to have a few in the house. I certainly wouldn't replace my desktop with one of these but I am also not the target market. I could see having one in the house though.
No there are many reasons to have a different OSes. Mainly it depends on what you are going to use it for.
For a desktop/Notebook: I want a full OS
For a tablet: I want a tablet OS that is touch based
For a phone: I want a phone OS
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David, you know I'm a firm believer in Apple's vision
kenosha77a Updated - 23rd Mar 2011
But I have to agree with "30otnix" on this topic. Chrome OS might better fit the needs of your neighbor's particular requirements.

I agree with all your article's bullet points (especially that comment about Apple's recent cash flow problems) but have we overlooked the "Lion" in the room, possibly?

I've heard rumors that OS X Lion will have increased security (at least elements I've read will bring it up to Win 7 standards and perhaps past them) With Apple's App Store concept in place, OS X can become as "locked down" as a consumer wishes.

By the way, I was just a bit puzzled over your dismissal of the iPad/HDTV combo option. Surely the mirroring feature would prove easily mastered by your neighbor. The only disadvantage is the HDMI cable umbilical cord arrangement. AirDisplay is better in that regard but would require an additional ATV2 purchase.
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@kenosha7777 There's only one problem with Chrome OS. You can't install it on ANY commodity PC hardware you want to buy. Right now it's in beta, you need a CR-48 notebook to run it or you have to build it from source as an OEM. There are supposed to be products that you can buy soon that have it pre-loaded, but its non-existent for the normal population at this time.

Right now, the closest thing to an installable Chrome OS is something like Jolicloud.

http://www.jolicloud.com/download

Personally, I would welcome an apple iScreen or iTerminal or iCloud or iClient or whatever this box connected to a monitor and mouse/keyboard is. I'd give it to my own father in law in two seconds.
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@jperlow

What would you consider a reasonable price point for such a device? An Apple TV2 retails for about 100 dollars. An iPad, as we all know, for about 500 dollars.

Would you consider a "stand-alone" large iPad a good consumer investment at the iPad price point or must that price point be somewhere between the ATV2 and the iPad 2 for a commercially viable Apple product.

Personally, I fully understand the need for such a device but if Apple sold such a thing at a price only marginally below an standard iMac, I don't see it being more than a "hobby" device .. to quote a popular Apple term for niche products.
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Interesting idea
oncall 23rd Mar 2011
@kenosha7777

The ifixit teardown of the ATV 2 described it as being a couple connectors short of a full computer. It has basically the same guts as an iPad 1 including a Bluetooth chip so the parts are all there, Apple just needs to add a keyboard and mouse.
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@oncall

A thought just occurred (beginner's luck) but after reading your comment and thinking about Apple's current infatuation with content consumption, why not include standard HDTV components into this hypothetical product.

Apple could leverage the manufacturing facilities of the current iMac line by just "gutting" the current iMac insides, install Apple TV2 components, the necessary HDTV components and integrate the whole ensemble using iOS.

That type of iOS internet TV could sell to the demographics targeted by David and Jason's articles.
@jperlow
peppermint looks interesting, too.
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Maybe
oncall 23rd Mar 2011
@kenosha7777

Though I have become less interested in the all-in-one machines recently. Cheap PC tech moves fast, very fast, monitor tech not so much. A small ATV type device could cheaply leverage the millions of monitors/TV's out there to deliver a simple iOS interface. Maybe if they made an iMac type device that you could just plug in a new motherboard next year when the A-whatever chip comes out and memory prices drop in half.
It is a blessed day in which I never open a web browser. Local application offer many benefits that will never be seen with a web "application". All web browsers were never designed to host "applications", so people should stop trying to make web pages mimic applications. You should develop applications which run local to whatever operating system that the people are using and then tie that back to the data center system. It works best that way. Why do you think businesses are now developing applications that go on these mobile devices, but accessing web pages suck to replace applications. Web pages are designed to replace newpapers and magazines, and that is it.

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