Buy too much Sudafed and you may get a visit from a cop
Summary: If you have a runny nose and run to the store to purchase a decongestant, don't be too surprised if a detective shows up at your door shortly thereafter. Ever since a federal law went into effect that regulates pseudoephedrine, tracking systems have begun to pop up in local pharmacies, reports the Associated PressSince the law went into effect in 2006, pseudoephedrine, a key ingredient in the manufacture of methamphetamine, has migrated behind the counter at pharmacies.
If you have a runny nose and run to the store to purchase a decongestant, don't be too surprised if a detective shows up at your door shortly thereafter. Ever since a federal law went into effect that regulates pseudoephedrine, tracking systems have begun to pop up in local pharmacies, reports the Associated Press Since the law went into effect in 2006, pseudoephedrine, a key ingredient in the manufacture of methamphetamine, has migrated behind the counter at pharmacies. Customers must show photo ID to buy the decongestant, and the legal limit for purchases is 9 grams per month - roughly the equivalent of two 15-dose boxes of 24-hour Claritin D, or three 10-dose boxes of Aleve Cold & Sinus, or six 24-dose boxes of Sudafed.
Tracking systems such as MethCheck send local law enforcement the buyer's name, address and age with a swipe of a driver's license or state-issued ID card. If a customer is on a list of suspicious persons or he buys more than the legal limit of 9 grams per month, a detective is notified via email.
MethCheck will soon be able to track purchases by neighborhood or street, which would locate areas where meth chemists enlists others in the neighborhood to buy pseudoephedrine. MethCheck will be used at some 7,000 pharmacies in 43 states by next year, said Rick Jones, spokesman for Louisville-based Appriss Inc., which developed MethCheck.
Critics of the tracking software have raised concerns that people with colds or allergies could be suspected of meth production just for buying more than the average amount of cold medicine.
"People's health information - it's intimate, it's personal, it's something people desperately want to keep private," said Beth Wilson, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union in Kentucky. "For law enforcement to do an investigation, there must be a reasonable suspicion. I'm not sure just the amount of medication justifies that."
Law enforcement counters by saying that the type of evidence from MethCheck only leads to preliminary interviews with police and is not enough to warrant an arrest.
"It's just an investigative tool," said Van Ingram of the Kentucky Office of Drug Control Policy. "During the course of any investigation, you're sometimes going to interview people who aren't guilty of wrongdoing but who are part of the investigative process."
From a Fourth Amendment perspective, there would be nothing wrong with this if the pharmacy customer is truly free to decline the conversation. But if police are authorized to insist or to impede a person's free movement (or take her into custody), there must at least be reasonable suspicion that the person has committed a crime. Does buying too much Sudafed (perhaps because it's on sale) qualify?
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Our laws can be so stupid
The national news (I saw it reported on NBC or ABC news) the meth manufactures just steal or buy the pseudoephedrine in live stock medication which is exempt from this law.
Just another stupid law that removes law abiding citizens rights without affect or inconveniencing the criminals in any way what so ever.
The war on drugs is ineffective. This is just another prime example of just how ineffective it is.
throw out the baby with the bathwater
I agree that the meth problem is a serious one, and that this particular drug is one of the most destructive we have ever seen, but I somehow doubt that the motivations of the government and law enforcement are entirely out of any altruism or real concern for law-abiding citizens. It is an excuse to gain more police power and more control over our free society.
We would be far better off to legalize all drugs, make them widely and cheaply available, and leave people with their own choices whether to destroy their lives or opt for something better out of life. If we are serious about curing drug problems we need to remove the financial incentive from the equation and not allow the criminal element to derive benefit from suffering. The organized criminals would go out of business pretty fast, and those who decided to take the road of drug use would not be with us for long either...that would be their sole choice and at least they wouldn't be able to take the rest of us down with them.
Re: throw out the baby with the bathwater
These laws will evaporate over time (a long timue) or a national crisis will make them irrelevent. But as long as there is prohibition the problem will not be solved.
It used to be that ephedrine could be bought OTC. But now it is not available. I never was even tempted to buy and use it. However, when the news broke that it would become unavailable the first thought I had was; Do i need to buy some before it is not available? But I did not. I do not even like a much caffeine.
The same thing with pseudoephedine. I do not like to take the stuff. In fact I probably only take a 3 or 4 doses a year.
However, when I buy it I like to be able to buy the generic at the lowest price. I read the ingredient labels and the amounts and calculate the best price. I also do not like to take chemical cocktails Now it annoys me that someone will have to stand there and watch me read the labels if I can even do that. I guess I will have to google "Make your own pseudoephedrine"
I also believe this is going to be an opportunity for the retailers to offer less options at higher prices.
At any rate, this just keeps the meth addicts from making their own. This is just providing another opportunity for cartels to step in and make the product in larger quantities with much more violence.
Largo vive te Uni? la guerra de la droga del Estado
They Have To Convince Us We're Stupid
http://machiavelli.blog.co.uk/2007/07/10/the_scandal_that_will_not_go_away~2608346
It's for the common good
fear
But most drug laws are passed by spreading fear. If you can get enough people afraid of something they will gladly give millions to control it.
Sad part is that most often the targeted drug is not that big of a deal untill AFTER the law is passed.
Where previously you may have some isolated cases of people getting wasted on a quasi legal substance, and hurting themselves or possibly another, you now have people who stand to make MILLIONS by providing it, and others who stand to make millions by attempted control of it, and both sides are willing to KILL to protect those millions. It is NOT about the public at large, it is about the income derived from the substance.
prohibition turned a minor problem into a major issue where millions died and many more millions were spent on controlling a minor issue, and on incarcerating thousands of people who otherwise would have led productive lives.
marijuana, sorry, but I used to be a big pothead, and of the hundreds of people I knew that got high, I've never known anyone to get violent. mellowed out, laid back, and sleepy yes, violent no.
Now you have billions spent on it's control, thousands of people dieing and killing over it and unsavory characters making millions on it. And you have millions of people suffereing pain because it is a controlled substance and they can't use it legally. legalize pot and you will eliminate the funding for many criminal organizations, reduce the load on criminal courts, reduce the threat to law enforcement personel, and bring relief to many sufferring people. Marijuanna has no more effect on social harmony than booze does, so why not subject it to the same laws and regulations as booze? If it were legal it would provide a new cash crop, and provide revenue for the feds who could/would tax it the same as liquer
sorry, but I have NEVER seen more control as being the answer, making something illegal will only make it easier to get for those who are likely to abuse it. Making an otc drug too hard to get will mean you'll start seeing people getting killed over cold meds.
Ken.
Prescriptions
If the government is so concerned about Sudafed, they should put it back into the "by prescription only" category. We should not have controlled substances available "over the counter". And if anyone believes that Sudafed is not a controlled substance, let them go out and buy too much of it. We'll see if their opinion changes.
tweekers sux....
Totally Overblown
The only sinus medicine that really works is Sudafed & I get aggravated that I have to have my purchases recorded by the government and its corporate welfare service bureau. Maybe they should look at being this thorough with their military contractors.
Internet
Be sure to use tor, when visiting Mexican pharmacy websites.
The key to slamming this regulation is...
To buy or steal from a store
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