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Five lessons Apple can learn from Amazon

By | March 25, 2010, 12:05pm PDT

Summary: The iPad has the potential of being a unifying device but because Apple claims to have the right to restrict all content on its device, the iPad can’t be trusted. Apple should take some lessons from Amazon.

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Yesterday, ZDNet’s own Jason Perlow wrote the Kindle’s epitaph, claiming April 3 (the date Apple faithful will start getting their iPads) marks the beginning of the end for the Kindle.

He may be right, in that the iPad has the Kindle (at least the high-end Kindle DX) beat on price and performance. But does the iPad have the Kindle beat on a much more important factor: not alienating its customers?

Future-proofing your ebook purchases

Amazon’s Kindle started as a hardware delivery platform for Amazon ebooks. But in recent years, it has become so much more. According to Citi Investment Research, Amazon sold something like 35 million ebooks in 2009 and accounting for more than 80% of all ebook sales.

Amazon’s strategy has been the complete opposite of Apple’s. Amazon realized that their product was really the books, not the book reader. That old saw about selling the blades, not just the razor, holds true for the ebook market. While still protecting their books through DRM, Amazon opened up the Kindle format, not by letting others write Kindle readers, but by porting the Kindle reader to other platforms.

Today, you can read Kindle books on the iPhone, on your PC, Mac, laptop, or netbook, on your BlackBerry, and — unless Apple completely flakes out — on the iPad. You can’t read Kindle books on Android yet, but since there’s no corporate-imposed friction in the process, we presume it’s a mere matter of programming before and Android-based Kindle reader becomes a reality.

By making Kindle software and all those Kindle books available for devices other than the Kindle hardware, Amazon has effectively future-proofed not only its distribution strategy, but the purchases of millions of their customers.

A Kindle book purchase is a safe purchase, because you know that even if you don’t read the book on a Kindle — or even if Amazon discontinues the hardware — you’ll still be able to read your book on other platforms.

The Kindle is one of the first cases where a centrally-controlled DRM-based product actually has some level of future-proofing. When Wal-Mart initially decided to shut down their music service, millions of customers were told to either transfer their music to CD or lose it all. When MSN and Yahoo! both decided to shutdown their DRM servers, customers screamed.

While all three services have since relented, and are keeping their servers online — at least for now — we can see a fatal flaw for DRM-based products. The difference between these services and Amazon is that Amazon’s able to keep broadening its market by letting users choose where to read their books, while these other services limited access only to PCs and certain second- or third-tier hardware devices.

Competition as profit-center

Amazon has repeatedly shown it’s not only not afraid of competition, it’s found ways to co-opt its competition in ways that turns potential competitors into both partners and Amazon income streams.

Amazon’s Sellers program is a perfect example of this strategy. Once Amazon’s management saw that there was a clear potential of losing new book sales to those reselling used books, Amazon added a used book market.

This was a smart move on its own, but rather than relegating that used book market to an unreachable corner of its Web site, Amazon instead integrated used book listings right into the main book listing for each title.

This not only gave consumers an at-the-point-of-purchase choice, but made it immediately and obviously clear to consumers that there was choice, and reduced the reasons customers might have for ever looking for books anywhere other than on Amazon.

Today, if you look up any given book title on Amazon, you can find new books sold by Amazon, new books sold by other retailers or individuals, Kindle books, and used books — all in one place. As a consumer, it’s clear that there’s a wide range of choices and it’s also clear Amazon is willing to celebrate consumers’ choice.

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This is the complete opposite of Apple’s approach to everything except music. If you buy an iPhone, there are certain apps you can’t run because they “duplicate functionality,” they’re violating some term of use or another, they’re too racy, or the moon isn’t in some predetermined, but unspecified phase.

When it comes to music, Apple seems to be open to pretty much anything, including songs with highly inappropriate lyrics. And here’s another place where Apple could learn something from Amazon. Amazon is relatively predictable. You can pretty much assume Amazon will generally make sense in its strategies and communicate them to its partners and customers.

But Apple isn’t like that. As Perlow says, Apple is pretty much like North Korea. It seems to be run by a relatively unhinged leader, everything is shrouded in darkness, and very little useful information leaks past its borders.

The iPad has the potential of being a unifying device, the one device that will display books in all formats, display most media, and provide a lightweight window to view the digital world.

But because of the Apple both refuses to open up (Flash, anyone?) and because Apple claims to have the right to restrict all content on its device, the iPad can’t be trusted.

Will Apple censor what you can read on your iPad? Will Apple retroactively remove things you like to use on your iPad. I had a very handy WiFi scanner on my iPhone that I used for identifying dead zones on my network. One day after an iPhone update, the program was no longer on my phone — because Apple deemed WiFi scanner programs as having “mimimum functionality.”

I’d paid for that program, but I no longer had access to it — and Apple refused to refund the measly two bucks I paid because it was a purchase over 30 days old. That program had exactly the mimimum functionality I wanted for my $2, but because Apple decided it was going to be the judge of what software I was allowed to use, I had to resort to other tools for network testing.

To be fair, Amazon pulled this stunt with a copy of 1984 (of all things). But unlike Apple, as soon as Amazon became aware of how grossly stupid it was to yank a book off Kindles (and the delicious irony of it being 1984), Jeff Bezos came out with an apology and made an explicit promise not to do it again.

Can you imagine Steve Jobs doing that?

Readers are collectors

Most avid readers have huge collections of books. Part of their pride is showing their book collections and being able to touch and feel those books. Collections are translating to the digital world, and it’s likely that most readers will gravitate toward one or two large “libraries” for their books, not a fractured set of DRM-limited books provided by many providers.

Kindle may well be the library of choice. With 35 million books sold last year alone, there are a lot of Kindle libraries. I just checked my Kindle library and I have 35 books in it — and I don’t own a Kindle (I did, thought it sucked, and returned it). Instead, I read Kindle books on my iPhone.

Collectors may also gravitate towards whatever the iBooks library becomes. While you can almost definitely be assured that you’ll be allowed to read whatever you want in your Kindle library (if not on the iPad, at least on other devices), there’s absolutely no promise that (a) you can read what you want in iBooks, and (b) those books won’t be censored or edited in some way to meet Apple’s bizarre requirements.

Five lessons

Here are five important lessons Apple can learn from Amazon:

  1. Don’t be afraid of your competition, co-opt them and profit from them instead.
  2. Don’t restrict what your customers can buy.
  3. Don’t restrict how and where your customers can use what they buy from you.
  4. Be predictable and set clear guidelines for how you’re going to behave.
  5. If you make a boneheaded mistake, apologize and then explain what your policy will be into the future.

This issue is bigger than just Apple and Amazon. As more and more of our information goes digital, as the books we read become digital, as the news we get comes in digital form, as magazines, radio, and TV are all distributed digitally, there exists the potential for information control.

Once these companies start to exert control over what we can and can’t watch, what we can and can’t read, once they start attempting to dictate what we can and can’t think, this becomes an issue of civil rights, and far more than just an issue of distribution and DRM.

Think about it. While you still can.

Disclosure: the author derives a small personal income from both Apple and Amazon.

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RE: Five lessons Apple can learn from Amazon
birumut Updated - 3rd May 2011
Great!!! thanks for sharing this information to us!
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Oh Brother...(NT)
CowLauncher 25th Mar 2010
nt
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exactly
john_gillespie@... 26th Mar 2010
brace yourself for a flood of fan-boy juvenile teeth-mashing ... "so is
your mama!" etc.
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I have no idea if you two are defending this
story or making fun of iPhone/iPad fans making
contemptible comments. But this all seems to
me, to be very true. Will it be able to stand
the test of Father Steve's Jobian Priest Style
control? While at the same time being judged by
his unpredictable predictability? haha... Doubt
it, only Steve knows that!

I would say #1 it wouldn't change his mind,
however unpredictable that is!

Will he heed any of the warnings? Steve has a
reputation for not listening to anybody but
himself talking in his own head!

My guess? iBooks will be permanently locked to
Apple Macs, iPad and iPhone platforms. Will they
allow Amazon ebooks to be read on their iPad?
You could make a safer bet predicting next
year's snowfall around the great lakes. But yes,
It'd be suicide otherwise!

If they don't. Then you'll never see iPad iBooks
beat out Amazon..... EVER!!! grin ...and it's
doubtful closed will beat OPEN this late in the
game, anyway!

Never mind the fact iPad is a highly incompetent
device as a true complete WWW access tool. If
they don't open up the platform, they will die
in their own clone of AOL Hell (in theirDRM
Garden Walls) with it's WebTV style lack of
full web access! wink ....only difference? It's
portable!
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1984
dogbreath1 25th Mar 2010
I'll bet Amazon is really regretting it didn't do more to avoid
surreptitiously removing "1984" from users' Kindles last year.
Otherwise it could better keep a straight face when people
lament Apple's content restrictions.
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Amazon's world domination
daengbo 26th Mar 2010
Amazon is kind of like Google. Google has the goal
to index all the world's data (and sell ads on it
...): Amazon's goal appears to be to offer
everything in the world for sale over the
Internet.
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This is one of the best posts I read in a while
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RE: Five lessons Apple can learn from Amazon
David Gewirtz 25th Mar 2010
Thanks, Frank. Now, where did you say you wanted me to send my five bucks? happy

Seriously, keep reading. I'm planning a little bit more on this tomorrow.
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RE: Five lessons Apple can learn from Amazon
enestlerode@... 26th Mar 2010
Mr. Gewirtz, thanks soo much for writing this,
and yes, I will be looking forward to tomorrow's
post. Your information here is invaluable.
After reading Kindle's perhaps premature obit
yesterday, I was truly saddened, I'm almost to
the purchase point for it, and I'm not generally
buying anything right now that isn't necessity.
I have enough confidence now to purchase,
understanding what you have written. And yes,
I'm old enough to have lived through the Betamax
vs VHS fiasco. What was that?? Those who do
not learn from history are doooooomed to repeat
it?? happy
Eleanore
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So True, Eleanore!
i2fun@... 27th Mar 2010
I had forgotten about BetaMax vs VHS history
lesson. It set a precedent on closed corporate
hardware distribution. Smug snobery thinking
you're all that has never been tolerated by the
public for long.

Sony blew it by not allowing their format to be
licensed by other manufacturers. But they still
haven't learned, haven't seen several of their
proprietary formats die. BluRay is the only recent
one that made past the chopping block. But how
long will it last? Control is good in the right
hands. But over control by locked closed formats
with unforgiving DRM, will be any product's deaf
nil!

....that's why they call it Digital Rectal
Manipulation of a product's own customers! wink
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Not exactly correct
rahbm 27th Mar 2010
"Sony blew it by not allowing their format to be licensed by other manufacturers."

Not true. Beta VCRs were made by Sony, Sanyo, Toshiba, NEC, Zenith, Aiwa, Pioneer and Marantz, plus some other smaller vendors. The main problem with Beta was that early machines were limited to one hour of recording; by 1980 or so this was fixed, with Beta offering up to 5 hours of recording, but rental tapes were mostly VHS, and this sealed the deal.

Totally agree with your dislike of DRM though!
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BetaMax
Jkirk3279 28th Mar 2010
What people seem to forget is that VHS would be IMPOSSIBLE
without patents developed by Sony.

Is the BetaMax still in common use by consumers?

No. It evolved, and became the professional standard used
by TV stations.

However, every consumer who purchased a VHS VCR was
basically sending a nice little present of cash to Sony by
paying for those patents.

In my mind, that puts a different spin on the matter.

Now VHS is dying out. But check your local TV station: are
they totally digital, or are they still using Beta tapes for
backup?

Ironic, isn't it?
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Porn
Graham Ellison 28th Mar 2010
And of course the porn industry lead that trend in the early days. People
tend to forget that, in the same way they forget that good business is
about getting the whole mix right, not the simple surface stuff that's
easily discerned in one simplistic glance, and easily mistaken as the
decisive single factor in any success or failure.

The question of how these myths get started is as easy to answer as how
the people who peddle them get by in life. They simply don't bother to
ask enough questions, and settle for half the information. And, when
this satisfies them, they assume everyone is the same as them and
equally easily gratified.

It's all very well gushing at Gewirtz Eleanore, but if you really think his
information is "invaluable", and you're about to buy a Kindle instead of
an iPad, you're in for a shocking disappointment.

Not only is the Kindle a horribly limited and retarded product, only good
for reading black and white text [great for bodice rippers, C R A P for
magazines and text books etc], it has absolutely nowhere to go
commercially from this point on.

One [and only one] of the reasons Apple has decided to go with the iPad
[instead of a netbook for instance] is that Amazon have demonstrated
there is a market for an ebook reader as a stand-alone device.

But that's all Amazon have done. They've comprehensively failed to
realise that people want more from any device they carry about.

Oh sure, there will be die hard Kindle users still using their unsupported
devices long after Apple has owned the ebook market, just as there are
still using their Newtons. And for a while Amazon will continue to sell
small numbers of Kindles to reclusive spinsters, reluctant grey tech
market and those equally easily gratified by mediocrity. But that's all.

Another device for the nearlytech museum. Make space next to the Zune.
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jhimes 26th Mar 2010
And no I don?t see this article is not blatant Apple bashing (although that is how you make apple sauce!)

Kinda makes me glad I have yet to follow the steps of Adam and take a bite into the Apple.

Can?t believe people stand for your purchased products to be taken from you & not be reimbursed for the purchase. Talk about biting the hand that feeds.
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I agree...
lostark98 26th Mar 2010
This is an excellent discussion of technology, business, and culture. Very nicely thought out and well reasoned.

Now all we have to do is keep all the religious warfare (Apple vs MS vs Amazon, etc.) at bay!
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No it isn't,
Graham Ellison 26th Mar 2010
it's utter fud
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jail for failure to purchase health insurance.

Now tell me again how coercive Apple is.
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Too late he already responded...his "religion" was
TheBottomLineIsAllThatMatters 26th Mar 2010
attacked in the article and he's upset.
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Here's the blogger's logic:

Amazon locks you into their DRM, but lets you get locked in on many
different pieces of hardware. This is Good.

Apple does not lock you into any one DRM, but limits you to one piece
of hardware. This is Bad.

And the reason? Because Amazon might pull a wal-mart and shut
down their DRM servers and...oh, wait. You'd be screwed. Gee, I guess
I was fooled on that one.

OK. But the number one consumer electronics company in the
country, Apple, could stop making their highly successful, record
breaking in sales and profits iPad or iPhone or iPod touch at any
moment and you'd be screwed. Or Apple with $50 billion in the bank
and the number one music retailer in the country could shut down
their DRM server at any moment and you'd be screwed.

No excuse me while I go look for my brain.
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3rd (or 4th) (nt)
tikigawd Updated - 26th Mar 2010
nt
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Ha! I get it...
trefire 26th Mar 2010
Took me a while and I couldn't figure out why someone would think this blatantly anti-Apple post was anything extraordinary. There are daily anti-Mac rantings on zdnet, this pointed to no new ideas about Apple and simply regurgitated the old pro-PC saws, the usual attempt to paint Jobs as a monomaniacal odd ball out of touch with what people want, all kinds of "legendary" faults Apple is supposed to have. It's like listening to FoxNews version of 'reality', truth be damned, just repeat the same things until the idea of them takes grip. Then I realized you were being facetious with the fawning praise. Very clever.
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Sane insight
Graham Ellison 26th Mar 2010
Thank you trefire for your sane insight.

This article is a very sad indictment of the current downward trend in
quality of the faux 'journalism' employed to damage the reputation of
Steve Jobs and Apple.

Jealousy is a strange and rather ugly human trait.

But more seriously perhaps, the characterisations of Steve Jobs here
are deeply insulting and very poorly judged, indeed, as poorly judged
as the so-called 'advice'.

I think the author should apologise.
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I have iPhone and it sucks
dcdavy 26th Mar 2010
I agree with the author 100%. Apple took over where communists lost. Anybody who claims Flash is not essential, that some apps are not suitable for me, and other BS like that, is not my friend anymore. I like the iPhone for the overall idea, I hate it for: - no flash, 5 hr battery life, no tethering, locked up in AT&T junk network. Anybody disagreed ?
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wasabitobiko 7th Apr 2010
you can lead a horse to water...
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re five lessons
garybellinger 27th Mar 2010
Great insight and writing - as always.
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RE: Five lessons Apple can learn from Amazon
brian.fitzpatrick@... 25th Mar 2010
I have an Itouch and Apple has removed an app I paid for too. I will not buy an Ipad but some other tablet probably an Adam. I will not buy an Apple product again because of their crazy policies.
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What did they remove?
KiltedTim 25th Mar 2010
Just curious as I've never heard of this happening... What app, specifically
and what were the circumstances. It was my understanding that they
have no way to do this once you've purchased and downloaded an app.
They may make it unavailable for others to purchase from the app store,
but I've never heard of them remotely removing apps from the iPhone or
iPod Touch before.
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Never heard of this happening...
dave95. 25th Mar 2010
I am curious to know also because I've never heard of Apple pulling Apps from a users iPhone or Touch. Their would be more outrage if this even happened.

I know many users who still have and use the original Google Voice App before Apple pulled it from the store. NOT the users iPhone or iPod Touch.
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Rob Oakes 25th Mar 2010
I'd be surprised if they were still using the Google Voice app, as it no longer works. Google made a few modifications to how information is retrieved, and the original Google Voice app can no longer connect to the service. This has since been changed in the version available from Cydia. Thus, unless, they are using the updated version, I would be very surprised if they are still *using* the Google Voice app.

As to the general topic, I've never heard of this happening either. Once you have paid for and downloaded an app, I didn't think that there was anything Apple could do. I can still install my copy of Google Voice, but I'm not sure that it would do me any good.
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Was this recent modifications by Google?
dave95. Updated - 25th Mar 2010
Will have to look into when Google closed down access to the server. But yeah this is Google shutting down access (probably in favor of their recent Google Voice mobile web app), not Apple.


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Google Voice App
Gritztastic 26th Mar 2010
I have GV Mobile on my iPhone still, even though it was pulled ages ago.
I've synced many times and it's never disappeared.

Sure, it doesn?t work any more now that google changed the login
mechanism, but it's still listed in iTunes and on my phone.

Now, If I deleted the app myself and tried to re-download it, that
wouldn't work, as it's no longer available in the app store, but
Apple/iTunes/ATT did not at any point try to delete the app from my
phone or my account.
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Exactly the way it works
tmhale13 26th Mar 2010
This is exactly how it happens. If you do not delete the app, you keep it forever. In the case of the wifi finder and Google Voice, changes to the firmware or backend keep it from functioning.

On the other hand, Delicious Library (a great OS X app!) made an iPhone app to work in conjunction with their computer app. It turned out that it violated some agreement between Amazon and Apple (pulling metadata or something). So the App Store stopped carrying it. It is still on my phone and works just fine. I was told by yhe developer that if I liked the app, "Do not delete it!" as it would then be gone for good.

This was not simply an Apple decision though. It was based on a binding contract with Amazon. It was Amazons policy that was being broken and Amazon dictated the removal.

Just something to consider when Apple bashing. Or Amazon bashing, Microsoft bashing etc. Many times there are other forces at work...
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On Resync
rhonin 25th Mar 2010
I have had a couple of apps that post apple removing them from the store, when I resynced my phone I later noticed the apps were no longer on my phone.

To be fair, I have not seen this happen since v9.x but then again I do not currently own any apps Apple has decided to remove.
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You might not have heard of it
tikigawd 26th Mar 2010
because if people complain about it in the Apple forums the comments are immediately silenced by the GestApple.

But it happens. Just look at the author's experience with his WiFi scanner app that he PAID for.
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Macrumors?
Gritztastic 26th Mar 2010
MacRumors is not controlled by Apple, and is a huge Mac/iDevice forum.
Personally, I have never heard about Apple deleting a paid app off a
user's iDevice. Sure, they'll pull things off the App store now and then,
but not delete an app off the device.
Whether you believe this writer's story (and web
links around the web) not, isn't the question. What
does he have to gain from lying? Maybe you'll stay
stuck in the ignorant fanboii mentality, that is so
religiously loyal to Reverend Steve Jobs
propaganda, that you sit quietly by. While Apple
tries to bring another Hitler Regime into power
over it's faithful believers (Nazi Youth comes to
mind). Before they actually reveal the full DRM
Power Features of their closed, locked in a Garden
Walled AOL Hell Prison devices! wink

iPad will be the first Apple device to fall flat on
it's face, no different than the original Origami
(tablets) Microsoft launched and saw fail!

Give the world either a fuller better featured
slate or forget about breaking into a market (ideas
they stole) that's already broken. World will
always choose cheap and Open as in works on
everything over the closed proprietary formats.

Think VHS winning vs Betamax, UMD failure, Attrax!

Lock people in or lock them out, evidentially a
more approach available on a wider range of
hardware always wins. That's iPhone and it's iPad
cousin will fall prey to Android, Intel/Nokia's
MeeGo, etc. They'll run on anything. Even if it is
non Intel based. It's rumored that Intel will be
also having MeeGo installed on non-Nokia phones
with Intel chips.

We're talking the big boys now. Intel and Nokia!
...one controls our hardware chip World and the
other (Nokia) is the Giant that has more Cell
Phones in the market than any other cell phone
maker! wink
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BZZZZZZZ!!!
Jkirk3279 28th Mar 2010
I'm sorry, you are in violation of Godwin's Law.

In accordance with the Rule, the first person to invoke
Hitler loses the argument.

FAIL.
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WiFinder
hill60 26th Mar 2010
Is on my iPhone and in my iTunes backup.

It has not been deleted.

Sorry to burst your bubble of indignation.
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My bubble?
tikigawd 27th Mar 2010
I don't own an iPhone, so WiFinder didn't get deleted from said iPhone I don't own.

All I said was that the author claims his disappeared.

On that vein, I used to be a happy iPod owner and Apple customer. That was until they screwed me over: deleting posts asking for help on Apple forums, "Geniuses" at the Genius bar telling me I was having problems because I owned a WinPC instead of a Mac, etc etc.

Shady company, shady practices = I'm not their customer anymore.
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You have the wrong company.
frgough 27th Mar 2010
It was amazon, and it was the ebook 1984 by George Orwell.
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dunno
WilliamsiPad 25th Mar 2010
I honestly think you can't compare Apple to Amazon. They
both are in distinct markets (technology vs service)

William, theamazingipad.com
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Some overlap
Gritztastic 26th Mar 2010
Digital media distribution is where the venn diagram intersects. Apple is
king of digital music sales, Amazon is kind of digital book sales.
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I?d paid for that program, but I no longer had access to it ? and Apple refused to refund the measly two bucks I paid because it was a purchase over 30 days old. That program had exactly the mimimum functionality I wanted for my $2, but because Apple decided it was going to be the judge of what software I was allowed to use, I had to resort to other tools for network testing.


As someone who's been using free and paid WiFi scanner Apps on my iPod Touch for years, I find this suspect. My wifi Scanner still works the same today as it did years ago.
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Whoa! This is new news for me. I haven?t heard about Apple pulling off apps off the market without a valid reason. Then again, I have never been too happy with the flash restriction on the iPod/Pad models. If Apple is planning on censoring ebook contents on its iPad, they are in for a huge loss of consumers in ebook/tablet market. I say Apple should stick with making the hardware, and not fondle with its contents.
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Be serious
trefire 26th Mar 2010
I suspect your eagerness to be convinced Apple is a perfidious anti-customer faceless machine is due to you being a plant and writing a fake opinion. Be that as it may, Apple has removed some few apps from its store for a variety of reasons, none of them being a desire to censor. Some of them, the largest number, were removed for fraudulent positive comments that a large Chinese app-maker was posting to their own products. Some of them had to do with porn, I believe. Very little anyone but an anti-Apple pundit would miss terribly, and if they removed something because it dupped something already on the machine, so what? Unless the app was free, they have a responsibility to customers who might not know there is a free function to prevent duplication anyway, and if you MUST have something, go use another smart phone that carries it. If there were some mistakes made (Skype for instance) these were or will be worked out. It's hilarious to me the way you antis try to paint Apple as this un-caring machine, as if PC makers were all touchy-feely with their customers. I swing both computer ways and I have never ever gotten decent service from Dell, Compaq, or Toshiba. Talking to them is like shouting into the void, and trying to get reactions or response from them is like punching an amorphous blob. I use both but Apple's products are far better, their innovation is second to none, they actually design their stuff as opposed to the followers who imitate. There really is no comparison from a quality perspective. Yes, they cost a bit more, but they are more than worth it.
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Hey trefire:
Yam Digger 26th Mar 2010
How much did Steve Jobs pay you to write this fawning piece of drivel? Or is this Steve Jobs himself? Is that you Steve? Did you read the article, Dude? Your customers want choice!!!
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"Anti-Apple"
Barc777 Updated - 2nd Apr 2010
You missed the part, perhaps, that the author derives income from both Apple AND Amazon?

If he is taking a stance against Apple, he must have reason. Especially given that he makes some money from or through them.
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clueless fud from the apple haters
bannedfromzdnetagain 25th Mar 2010
so amazon didn't want to lock you in with their drm and
proprietary ebook format? and amazon is so open that they
love to disclose the number of kindles sold yet. oh wait a
minute. not.

amazon is all smoke and mirrors in their fight to own the
ebook market with their proprietary format. and you like that
approach? but apple is north korea? idiotique.
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I love apple, but I fear for them
paul@... Updated - 25th Mar 2010
Its probably a fair point that Amazon is not THAT much more benevolent
than Apple. ( http://bit.ly/9rPnqh ) But as a loyal apple booster for over a
decade now, I agree with the thrust of this article, that we are at a critical
point with the creation of models for digital content, and Apple are a
making I think, some bad, greedy decisions about the iPad. Its not just
FUD by apple haters, I feel the urge to save Apple from themselves at the
moment.
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Profits & Markets
Minnesota Steve 25th Mar 2010
It is true that Apple and Amazon will clash in the eBooks business. But I am not sure Apple has much to learn from Amazon Apple had $8.9 B in earnings in 2009, Amazon had $0.9 B. An overall 10% profit growth at Apple in one year equals the entire franchise of Amazon. Outside of eBooks, they do not compete that heavily. Apple has outright won the music distribution market while entirely profiting from it's iPods nt the music. Apple may get a better margin in eBook selling than with music, but as long they move a few million iPads a year, they will have more net income from iPads than Amazon will have from eBooks. It is not important that they become #1 in eBooks, just as long as owners of iPads are happy with quality content access.
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RE: Five lessons Apple can learn from Amazon
birumut Updated - 3rd May 2011
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