Internet vs. US Constitution

Summary: Will the Justices be able to adapt, given the US Constitution is 223 years old with a 'few' amendments? Will government need to establish new amendments to modernize how laws are created and established in an Internet world?

I read every talkback to the stories I write. All are constructive and I learn something every day.  Thank you for your feedback. You all have a variety of different opinions, views, and interpretation of government law, regulations and authority as it applies to the use of the Internet and technology and politics. The debate on health care, antitrust, freedom of speech, liberty, Internet use, copyright and patent law are hot issues within this section of ZDNet.  In this technology saturated world, one statement that commonly appears to pop up in talkback comments is the U.S. Constitution and how laws affecting our lives and use of computers, social media and other services are perceived as being attacked. This poses some interesting questions, among them, is the U.S. Constitution capable of keeping up? Will the Justices be able to adapt given the Constitution is 223 years old with a 'few' amendments. Will government need to establish new amendments to modernize how laws are created and established in an internet world?

Associate Justice Stephen Breyer and A. Justice Antonin Scalia debated their views on a variety of topics surrounding the meaning of the U.S. Constitution. The choice of these Justices sets the stage for diverse and often opposite views. Points of argument put forward by both Supreme Court justices are compelling and worthy of your time to debate. You will discover that both have a sense of humor. The Justices are not your typical John Grisham novel jurists. They're better.

Covered by C-Span, a one hour lecture records valuable insight on how the two Associate Justices wrestle with cases and interpretation of law brought before the court. I encourage you to take the time to listen to the program. The Justices take on very difficult topics including the death penalty, abortion, due process, liberty and freedom of speech (and Press). The Justices also tackle relevance of technology in today's world compared to when the Constitution was drafted by the framers of the document in 1787. The discussion does not cover internet technology or social media directly. The discussion extensively covers how legislation is enacted by Congress and repercussions it may have on the court.

Chief Justice John Roberts said in a speech at the University of Alabama that Congress has a duty to pass laws that are Constitutional and not rely upon the court to make such decisions. This potentially has significant impact on any bills going through Congress directed at the Internet.

Associate Justice Stephen Breyer was appointed the Supreme Court by President Clinton in 1994. Justice Breyer is the author of a fascinating book, Active Liberty: Interpreting Our Democratic Constitution.

Associate Justice Antonin Scalia was appointed to the Supreme Court by President Reagan in 1986. Considered an "Originalist" by many law professors, Justice Scalia published Making Your Case: The Art of Persuading Judges. Leave your comments, which I have no doubt you will.

Additional resources:

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Are the MPAA and RIAA out of their minds?

Warner Bros. recruiting students to spy on file sharers

The FCC should be the regulator of ACTA treaty

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  • The Meanings of the Bill of Rights

    The Constitution is quite clear about the reasons for privacy, if you understand the reason for the Bill of Rights. The items in the list are not separate, as some think, but to be taken as a whole. Why? Each is one step in the puzzle that the colonists needed to overthrow the King. Search and Seizure? Remember Lexington and Concord? You can't run guns if the King can stop and search anywhere his soldiers want. Freedom of Religion? The pulpit was being used to foment Rebellion and then organize militia units, the CNN of it's day. Not house troops? Can't go to militia practice if there are soldiers in your house. It goes on and on.

    Then again, most people don't know that Freedom and Liberty are very different words.
    tburzio
    • Simplistic

      There is no explicit provision in the Constitution that protects a comprehensive right to privacy. The First, Fourth and Fifth amendments do deal with certain aspects of privacy. The Supreme court has therefore struggled with many privacy cases over the years. It will continue to struggle with privacy cases during the internet age, for that same reason.
      Economister
      • I would...

        tend to agree with your assesement. That's one of the impressions I took away from watching the lecture.

        Thanks for writing.
        Doug
        doug.hanchard@...
      • Your mistaken

        Your papers are YOUR private papers. no matter where they are stored.

        but if you waive those rights, for example, by signing or agreeing to some sort of policy. that is an entirely different matter.
        pcguy777
        • Become the subject of a search warrant...

          and you will discover exactly how private your papers are.
          Economister
          • Hence the 4th Amendment...

            ...Which is supposed to protect people from unreasonable searches and seizures.
            Reindeer911
          • Two words - Probable Cause

            Search warrants don't just grow on trees. To obtain one, there must be probable cause, and the facts must be sworn to before a magistrate. The 4th amendment says that the place to be searched must be detailed, along with the items to be seized. Search warrants are not fishing expeditions. There is a long series of cases that detail "evidence" being thrown out because the police were in the wrong apratment, or picked up other items, that might not have been called out in the search warrant.
            rep2009
          • Hogwash!!

            Once they get inside your property the can do just about anything they want, and ubder the guise of suspicious looking. Most warrants give them that out. The warrant give them every opportunity to make you a criminal even if you are not one. So, don't be a criminal is my advise.
            eargasm
          • probably cause

            Due to the Patriot Act, all that the authorities
            need to do is say that you are a "terrorist
            suspect" and they can and will enter your property
            without a court authorization. There have been
            several news reports of FBI/Gov't abuse of this
            capability to get standard criminals. The problem
            is that once you give up a right or something,
            it's hard to get it back. Even with a change in
            administration, the gov't hasn't changed the law.
            oschmucko@...
          • unconstitutional

            This is a case of the law being a violation of the Constitution. Unfortunately, it seems all branches of the government have come to view the Constitution as something to get around rather than something to uphold.

            :'(



            *edit to correct spelling
            erik.soderquist
        • Waiving Rights

          The scary part for me, is every time I go to an
          additional site, and sign the 'terms of agreement'
          I know SOMEWHERE in there I may have "waived my
          privacy rights in one way or another. Isn't using
          ANY form of internet access 'waiving your rights'?
          AOL, Microsoft, Facebook, Google... don't they ALL
          have and retain your personal information...and IP
          information in one way or another?
          reslyn
      • Simplistic: 9th Amendment

        "...no explicit provision..."

        "The enumeration in the Constitution of certain rights shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."

        I don't know how much more clear the Constitution can be that there ARE other rights than those explicitly stated. Doesn't anyone actually READ the dang thing!?

        $
        ejpoleii
        • Read the Constitution

          Apparently most members of Congress either have not or cannot read the Constitution.
          jmd8421r
  • Unalienable Rights

    Our Constitution was framed as a set of limitations on
    the government to safeguard liberty. It is defense for
    unalienable rights, not a statement of rights allocated
    by the government to the people. The addition of
    technological advances has not uncovered any new base
    human right that I am aware of, so our founding
    documents are as relevant as ever. The medium may
    change, but speech is still speech and the government
    shouldn't infringe upon it.

    Where we have gone astray is by allowing government to
    legislate every infinitesimal area of our lives. If we
    had resisted the urge to control everything, and
    instead left more choice to the individual, we could
    have a streamlined government that might actually
    efficiently accomplish the relatively few things it is
    supposed to do.
    xnilo
    • Problems arise due to the public and private realms dissolution

      When you speek to a relative or friend, be it
      in a public place, that conversation is
      private, and immune to governmental
      interference.

      However, on the internet the private status of
      interaction is not as easy to interpret. You
      often end up communicating with non relative in
      a conservative way of thinking; peer to peer
      communication, which were traditionally
      labelled as private have become so general that
      having a stance considering them all to be
      private is difficult to maintain...
      s_souche
    • Very well said

      Yes the Constitution is quite capable of dealing with the internet or any other technological advancement. All that is needed is for us to understand that the founders were trying to protect our rights from infringements by any means. Unfortunately today we confuse rights with wants and desires, but that it another topic for another day.

      The problem is not with the Constitution or it's age but with our society. We continue to allow our "leaders" to ignore or misinterpret the Constitution to fit their agendas. The founders of this country left us a treasure trove of documents to use in order to clarify any questions with regard to the intent of any part of the Constitution. The Federalist Papers is a good start but there are many others.

      Referring to a justice as an originalist is ridiculous. If they are not originalists they are not doing their jobs. Their function is to interpret constitutionality of laws as intended by the founders or subsequent amendments not to twist its meaning to further an agenda from either party.

      It has 2 and only 2 legitimate methods for change, the amendment process and a convention.

      Those that believe the Constitution is a living document are correct only in the fact that the amendment process exists, not that the Supreme Court or any other entity has the authority to just change the meaning or intent as they see fit. The process was established for a reason.
      newb6025@...
      • xnilo and newb6025 are correct

        The Constitution is there to protect the unalienable rights of the citizens; it does not grant us rights, it protects those rights from abuse by others and by the government.

        It specifically and intentioally limits what the Federal government can do. This is why Barack Obama has such a problem with it, because it "doesn't say what the federal government or state government must do on your behalf" in the "issues of redistribution of wealth"

        When the President of the United States, sworn to uphold, protect and defend the Constituion, believes that constituion to be a hindrance to his ideology, then we have a real problem.
        bb_apptix
        • read the commerce clause

          The Constitution was broken by government in the late 1920s. The country was in a depression, and government felt the need to provide for every living individual via Social Security, WPA, TVA, and most every other executive agency since. The Supreme Court repeatedly struck down attempts to create these agencies via the commerce clause. Eventually, Roosevelt threatened to pack the supreme court with 10 new members, all determined to pry open the commerce clause. It worked... Now everything from health care to desegregation has been passed under the commerce clause, and it is sort of hard to put the toothpaste back in the tube. I have a better saying, but this blog does maintain some restrictions on speech...
          rep2009
  • Griswold v. Connecticut

    in Griswold v. Connecticut, 1965 and then Roe v. Wade,
    1973, the US Supreme Court recognized that the US constitution protected a right to privacy from
    governmental intrusion.
    s_souche
    • it did.....

      Watch the lecture. I'm not so sure it would today...

      Thanks for writing.
      Doug
      doug.hanchard@...