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Telecom immunity passes Senate, Obama votes yes

By | July 9, 2008, 4:27pm PDT

The Senate – with a yes vote from Barack Obama and a no vote from Hillary Clinton – passed the regrettable wiretapping bill today, which grants lawsuit immunity to telecommunications companies, The Wall Street Journal reports.

Despite a spirited resistance by some Democratic senators who argued against providing immunity to the phone companies, in the end the bill carried easily in a 69-28 vote.

Earlier Wednesday, lawmakers had defeated an attempt by Democratic senators to remove the legal immunity language from the legislation. That amendment only needed 50 votes to carry, but its proponents, which include most of the senior ranks of Senate Democrats, were unable to muster the requisite support.

Obama issued a statement saying the bill was the best resolution that lawmakers were able to reach. But with the vote so lopsided, Obama could have easily voted against the bill, confident that it would pass anyway. It comes down to a matter of politics. The political tea-readers decided that there was no political upside to being against enhanced government spying, and so a vote was cast. Pity.

The ACLU said the issue might come up for review when the Patriot Act comes up for renewal.

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RE: Telecom immunity passes Senate, Obama votes yes
NMKirkham 16th Jul 2008
I am going to give my vote to the kid across the street. I can't help but picture Uncle Sam holding a ball. He has two spoiled children reaching for it screaming at the top of their lungs. One wears a republican t-shirt and the other wears a democrat t-shirt. Then I see Uncle Sam handing the ball to the little kid across the street wearing an Independent shirt. Give it to the kid across the street.
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ugh.
james.faction 9th Jul 2008
Freedom undermined by "security" AGAIN.
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Obama's Weak Spine
psychosmurf 10th Jul 2008
Barrack Obama just lost my vote. Ralph Nader, Here I Come!!!
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Stop Lying!
quartertildawn@... 10th Jul 2008
Please! He never had your vote!
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Me too!
Alan Balkany 10th Jul 2008
I'm voting for Ralph Nader too, and for the Green Party for all other positions.

THE DEMOCRATS LET IT ALL HAPPEN!
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I give up...
wmlundine 10th Jul 2008
...we were headed to Denver in August. Now I'll save the money and donate to the ACLU lawsuit.
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Why not tell BOTH sides???????????????
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He didn't...
bernalillo 10th Jul 2008
As I understand it he avoided coming down anywhere by not voting. I believe his excuse was he was raising money but as I understnad it he can vote by proxy. If this is true then any missed vote is more a matter of avoiding the issue than any thing else. Does anyone know about this for sure?
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We do, in deed, have nothing but Bull Scat to vote for yet again. Only difference is the smell. plain

Lewis Black Red White and Screwed
http://www.hbo.com/events/lblack/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwRRvc5RAis
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BTW: Thx 4 th link! n/t
btljooz 15th Jul 2008
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He hasn't lost my vote, but this does worry me.

-Bucky24
I'm dismayed by the vote, as well.

I'm not sure what voting for Nader (or Paul, or the other candidates with microscopic chance for winning) accomplishes, except perhaps a brief feeling of satisfaction and perhaps moral superiority. Now tens of millions of such votes will get politicians' attention, but that will take major effort, time, and ground work before that's reality.

Ah, for a diverse environment requiring true coalition building.

Sigh...........
Why bother then?
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Why bother either way?
cynic8 10th Jul 2008
I'm thinking tactically: which viable candidate is going to come closer? (I'm thinking of my visit to the optomotrist: Better? Worse?)

In reality, for any level of real change, by the time it comes to a vote, it's way too late. It takes a huge amount of time and energy to reach a large part of the electorate, convince them of value in the change, and get it accomplished.
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I could spit
bernalillo 10th Jul 2008
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that things can only get worse not better and that the highest good you can imagine is to slow the rate of decay short of a miracle of some kind. At least that's all I can derive from it. What my fellow "Idealists" and I are trying to do is to make thing better. It seems that if a democracy is really all it's cracked up to be then this should be possible. I must admit that since I have been voting this same argument has been waged and the masses seem to go for the "I prefer Influenza to Pneumonia" stance. I believe this is the stance the more corpulent of the world elite prefer we take, second only to staying home, which many do as well. I recognize your position as being valid as it is yours and you are a member of a reputed democracy. I simply disagree with it.
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Quote: "We live in the greatest country in the world, and I want you to help me change it!" Greatest country in the world???!!! And he wants to change it? Give me a break!!!
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I am going to give my vote to the kid across the street. I can't help but picture Uncle Sam holding a ball. He has two spoiled children reaching for it screaming at the top of their lungs. One wears a republican t-shirt and the other wears a democrat t-shirt. Then I see Uncle Sam handing the ball to the little kid across the street wearing an Independent shirt. Give it to the kid across the street.

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