Why 9/11 proved terrorism is a failed strategy (9/11 Diary)

By | September 9, 2011, 4:30am PDT

Summary: Sorry, terrorists. 9/11 didn’t change anything. The game is still our own, to win or to lose.

This article continues our remembrance of the events of September 11, 2001. This article was written for the occasion of the tenth anniversary of the attacks.

9/11 changed nothing.

Before you get up in arms about all the death and stress America experienced at the withered hands of Osama bin Laden, let me deconstruct that statement. Hang with me for a few minutes.

Terrorists want to be like a vindictive ex-spouse. They want to rip you from your nice home and force you to live in a roach-infested trailer park. They want to take all your money from you — forever — and find new ways to make your life miserable. They want you to suffer. They want to deny you access to your kids, and yet suck you dry of both spirit and joy. They want to knock you down several pegs and prove, not only to the world, but to you, yourself, that you’re not the person you thought you were.

The 9/11 terrorists wanted to destroy America and all it stands for. They didn’t.

Instead, Al Queda was a lot more like an annoying ex-girlfriend or boyfriend. Sure, they caused us some stress. It’s as if, in a hissy-fit, they busted your windshield, refused to return your toothbrush, and made some crank calls to your boss. Annoying, but not devastating.

People died in the events of September 11. We should never forget what they and their families lost. It was a terrible, horrifying event.

But it did not break us.

September 11: Ten years afterSure, it set us back for half a year or so. Sometimes, break-ups or other difficult life events can have that effect, too. But we moved on. And sure, we’re pretty scrod, financially, morally, and ethically — and we have a pretty crappy reputation worldwide.

But terrorism can’t take credit for that. Terrorism can’t take credit for our poor economic condition. Terrorism can’t take credit for the housing crisis. Terrorism can’t even take credit for our high unemployment numbers.

With the exception of the devastating loss of the unfortunate loved ones who died as a result of the attacks, terrorism can’t take credit for any fundamental change in American life.

While some Americans have had difficult lives these last years, some of us did okay. Speaking personally,  although I’ve gone through a couple of really rough patches, I’ve had a relatively decent life in this post-9/11 world. I’ve experienced positive growth, both personally and professionally. I got married to a wonderful woman. I feel privileged to be able to blog here on ZDNet. I am grateful for the good things in my life.

I’m not alone. Yes, many Americans have had it tough, but it’s also true that millions and millions of Americans have had good lives these last ten years. Millions upon millions of Americans have had great lives these last ten years. That’s despite Al Queda, despite Osama bin Laden, and even despite our own politicians.

America has done quite well these years, as well. Despite our economic troubles and the longest (and most ill-advised) war in American history, we still flourished. We saw the rise of Google, Facebook, and Twitter, the transformative nature of smartphones, the growth of broadband, and the instant, international connections made possible by the Internet.

Watch a movie about contemporary America from the year 2000 and another from 2011, and you’ll see subtle, but powerful changes, many of them for the better.

Some might say that America is a shadow of its former self, but we’re always a shadow of our former self. We’re always slightly embarrassing. Heck, one of our most popular exports, loved the world over, is a  brown, carbonated beverage that has no redeeming reason for existing.

America is, to some degree, a silly nation.

We still argue over evolution, intelligent design, or the idea that some magical being waved his arms and created heaven and Earth. We still argue over whether or not people should be allowed to use the word “married” if both members of a couple have male or female genitalia. We still argue whether a woman should have the right to choose what happens to her body if she gets pregnant.

We are a silly nation. We care more about who is on American Idol than we do about the contents of legislation that’ll change our lives. More people know the names Justin Bieber and Paris Hilton than know the names Stephen Breyer and Sonia Sotomayer (sigh, they’re Supreme Court justices).

We are a silly nation. We created Facebook, and worse, love it so much that it thrived. We want to know about who’s dating our ex-girlfriends or ex-boyfriends and whether or not the prom queen from our old high school has gotten fat yet (that bitch!). We care more about petty gossip than we do about learning the fundamentals of science or mathematics.

We are a silly nation. We invent wonderful toys like iPhones and iPads, but give up our manufacturing power to our biggest frenemies. Instead of pouring in sand at one end of a plant in Fremont, California and getting iPhones out at the other end (and employing thousands of Americans in the process), we send many of our manufacturing jobs to China, India, and anywhere else we can find laborers willing to work for less money than Americans need.

And yet, we are also an amazing nation. Despite all our flaws (and there are many), America is still the world’s role model. Sure, whenever we do something profoundly stupid, we lose some credibility across the planet, but we also always inspire.

America has heart, it has spirit, it has inventiveness, it has drive, it has purpose, it has resiliency, it has soul.

Part of what makes America great is that we can be both a very silly nation and a wonderful one at the same time. We have the internal design flexibility to allow the stupidity of our politicians (and their wildly divided and vaguely irrational supporters) and, yet, at the very same time, keep on keepin’ on.

Even though 9/11 shook us up, America is still here, it is still strong, it is still silly, and it is still inspirational.

Sorry, terrorists. 9/11 didn’t change anything. The game is still our own, to win or to lose.

Nyah-nyah.

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RE: Why 9/11 proved terrorism is a failed strategy (9/11 Diary)
kbhayani 26th Sep
Yes, we are there, but look at the cost of activities such as incurring a couple of hours at security lines, and similar time costing activities. As a business man the overhead has jumped every time I take a flight. May be that is their win ?
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samalie 9th Sep
I'm sorry, but your assertation is incorrect, pretty much in its entirety.

Terrorism won on 9/11.

Yes, America still exists. But we now live in a nation where over half the people ARE willing to trade liberty for security. We live in an America that has so far spent something in the neighborhood of a billion dollars for every dollar spent by the terrorists in the attacks, nearly bankrupting the nation. We have TSA agents looking at or groping our genitals so we can travel by plane.

America now lives in fear.

Sure, there have been companies, ideas, people that have succeeded in the past 10 years. But that goes without saying...unless America was literally wiped off the map, there are going to be success stories.

But the average PERSON is worse off today than they were 10 years ago. We lost so much that day...not just in lives, but in the very principles that America was founded upon.

We only win when we go back to our lives, regain the liberties we so quickly discarded in the name of protection.

We must remain vigilent. We must stand strong. But most importantly of all, we must stand with the liberty and freedom we once had.

Until that day returns (and in all honesty...freedoms given up are unlikely ever to be regained), the perpetrators of 9/11 have beaten us.
@samalie
When people"word used very lightly" do what they did on 9-11 did you expect everything to remain the same?? Japan bombed us,did everything remain the same then? If anything Us Americans got a dose of reality that we are untouchable. And i can say that i do not live in fear of terrorism nor have i changed the way i live nor has 1 million other fellow Americans.
@Stan57 You know, you're entirely right. You, and 1 million other americans were "unchanged" (which I also use lightly) by 9/11.

What about the other 250 million of you?

I know what you were trying to get at...but the simple FACT is that the average American has less freedom than we did 10 years ago. The American Government is on the brink of bankruptcy, and a big chunk of that massive debt is from spending a billion dollars to one to fight the responsible parties.

I wasn't alive when Japan bombed us...but I know from history that the bombing of Pearl Harbor did not result in the rolling back of centuries of rights and freedoms that the American people enjoyed (although unfortunately the lives and freedoms of many asian americans were completely trashed by fear, which we all agree today was entirely wrong).

And you can say you do not live in fear of terrorism...but by acceptance of the loss of rights and freedoms...things like the destruction of the 4th ammendment when daring to do something so heinus as wanting to board an airplane...you ARE living in fear. You accept the erosion of our liberty so you don't have to be afraid of flying. Well...that's living in fear of terrorism...that IS changing the way you live.

Of course the world changed on 9/11...but victory over terrorism means not allowing terror to run our lives...to not let fear rule our decisions...our choices.

The attacks of 9/11 succeed exactly because we accepted the change...that we needed to change. What do you think their goals were that day? They weren't stupid...they knew damn well that they weren't going to destroy America entirely...that America would "rebound". The goals (in my opinion) were to take away our freedoms, to make us fundamentally change who we are and what we believe, and to cost the western world an obscene amount of money.

Well, on that scorecard, we lost liberty and freedom, we changed our beliefs, we changed our system of justice for anyone we would brand a terrorist, whether a terrorist or not, and we've spent trillions of dollars chasing camels throught he desert. We have given up liberty for temporary safety, and we haven't even achieved temporary safety.

Seems like they won to me...and will continue to win until we go back to the country we were and the values and liberties we had.
@samalie

The terrorists couldn't care less how free we feel. Terrorism isn't about making your target feel bad. It's about getting them to change policy (in this case, foreign policy). In that regard, the attacks of 9/11 utterly failed. If anything, the U.S. has doubled down on its foreign policy in regard to military presence in the Middle East and support for Israel.

What Bin Laden was counting on was that the U.S. was a paper tiger, and would retreat if attacked. The exact opposite happened.
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bblackmoor@... 9th Sep
@samalie It's true that American citizens are subjected to indignities that would be reserved for criminals and prisoners of war in a previous decade, but terrorists did not do that. Cynical, power-mad opportunists did that, and a nation of cowardly imbeciles allowed it.
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Shhhh .......
rmhesche 9th Sep
@bblackmoor@...

You'll only anger the Right Wing .. I mean the Imbeciles, I mean ...

They'll just trot out the "You're UNPATRIOTIC because you don't follow the President ...

Oh, thats right, they don't say that anymore.
@bblackmoor@... No one is forcing you to stay, there are plenty of aircraft leaving the country everyday, boats, or cross the border by land.
@samalie
That is really the premise of the Cold War national security state. But guess what? We're not holding official inquisitions to determine who is and is not a "loyal American" as they did in the 1940s and 50s. And by and large the criminal justice system works the way did before (even though I think there are those who think that Guantanamo Bay is a more appropriate model). Former Vice President Cheney was very much in favor of undoing 1970s restrictions on presidential authority, but for the most part, the consensus on the balance of power between the three branches of government remains as it was.

Mind you, there are a lot of political developments over the past 10 years I'd like to reverse, and eternal vigilence remains the price of liberty, but the USA is neither a totalitarian state, nor in any immediate danger of becoming one.

Edit: One thing I forgot to mention...

There has been *no* official effort (and no serious unofficial ones) to crack down on political dissent. Even antiwar protesters have to engage in disorderly conduct in order to get arrested (during WWI, they would have been arrested on charges of sedition, just for speaking against the war). There has been no effort (official or otherwise) of which I'm aware to impose political censorship, or to punish either the publication or posession of subversive literature. Nor has there been any attempt to lock people up simply for belonging to a suspect ethnic group (as was done in WWII).

There have been private efforts to get people fired for political advocacy, but that's merely the sort of "punish your enemies" persecution that activists of various sorts have attempted for years and has nothing to do with 9/11.

Reply to piousmonk:

If there have been efforts to crack down on political dissent, they have been remarkably ineffective. It is true that there have been those who have insinuated that public opposition to the Iraq War is treason, but that's merely dishonest political rhetoric, not a serious effort to crack down on dissent.

Reply to adornoe:

Not a thing wrong with me (in that regard, anyway). I've said before I was disinclined to follow anyone's party line or to censure others for failing to do so. Apparently, you didn't believe me.
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@John L. Ries


If one is a follower of the Right Wing and a NEOCON they probably know about the formal inquisitions but are unaware the inquisitions were inquisitions.

And informal inquisitions happened just about everywhere, but once again since the NEOCon is intellectually dishonest and believe just about anything in order to alleviate the suffering of cognitive dissonance, they are once again aware and unaware of these inquisitions.
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Which inquisitions?
spdragoo@... 9th Sep
@rmhesche

Speaking as a long-time registered Republican, & someone that voted both times for President Bush, would you mind providing us some *evidence* of these "formal" inquisitions... since I know I have *no* knowledge whatsoever of them?
@John L. Ries

"There has been *no* official effort (and no serious unofficial ones) to crack down on political dissent."

Not to put on the tinfoil hat, but there's none that we know of. But we have seen the right wing claim treason by those who voiced disagreement with the war in Iraq. We've seen the telcos become extensions of Homeland Security. We've seen numerous people erroneously listed on "no fly"/terrorist watchlists. We've seen the Tea Party and veterans returning from Afganistan and Iraq labled as potential terror threats. We saw a scientist all but publicly accused by Homeland Security (which the media more than happily covered none stop) as the person behind the Anthrax attacks, only to see it pinned on yet a different scientist after his death. We've seen our government pass laws that allow a person to be served silent warrants, to be held without being charged and to be denied right to legal representation. We've seen reports describing thousands of abuses of these relaxed laws. We've seen Homeland Security marketing encouraging citizens to report others of suspicious activities.

Whether or not those things you listed have taken place yet doesn't matter. Much of the framework to do so is in place. If the wrong people reach positions of power, these things could become reality.

In short, our civil liberties exist to protect against such things from happening. If you remove those protections...
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rmhesche: What is it with your idiotic
adornoe@... Updated - 9th Sep
hate rhetoric?

What about those "inquisitions" that you speak of?

It sounds to me that your radical hate rhetoric and imaginings of evil are a bigger problem for people in the U.S. than whatever the terrorists can do to us after 9/11.

So, forget about what you imagine and come out with real facts about what you think is "really happening" in the country.

Forget the stupid labels and come out with facts. Idiotic ramblings wont get you or anybody anywhere, except probably make people cautious when they're around you.

While trying to brand others and demonize them, you actually end up indicting yourself as being more radical than those you wish to attack.
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The only inquisitions I've seen...
John L. Ries 9th Sep
...are the informal ones conducted by political activists to determine who is or is not a loyal member of one or the other of our major political parties. This is a long term trend and has nothing whatever to do with 9/11 or "national security".

What we haven't seen are people being called before Congressional committees (or other like forums) and having their reputations trashed because someone thinks they *might* be disloyal. We haven't seen people barred from work in their chosen professions (other than maybe government work) because they *might* be sympathetic to the enemy.

I don't think that people should *ever* be deprived of life, liberty (in the strict sense), property, or the privilege of earning an honest living, except by due process of law (and no, I don't think that nonjudicial officers should ever have the authority to proscribe or dissolve private organizations), but let's keep some perspective, shall we?
@John L. Ries Thank you, someone who is actually a student of history finally commenting with an eye to the big picture.
@samalie - sadly, I have to agree. When I and every other American are now considered first guilty (of possibly being a terrorist) until proven innocent by TSA, instead of innocent until proven guilty, the terrorist have won.
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Guilty until proven innocent?
John L. Ries 9th Sep
@ewi3020
Really? While my bags are routinely searched and I've been searched myself at least once (no, I don't like it either), I have yet to be required to prove that I'm not a terrorist to TSA or anyone else.
@John L. Ries
To many of us, the simple fact that we are required to submit to a virtual stripsearch or the FreedomFondle? is having to prove we are not terrorists in order to board a plane.

Tell otherwise to the people who have been arrested and charged for standing up for their 4th ammendment rights in an airport.

The fact you submit willingly, quite frankly, proves the point I've been trying to make here. You have given up essential liberty for the illusion of safety.
or that airplane was used to perpetrate an attack against some other target?

Would you be one the the first to accuse the government of not having done enough to protect the citizens and country against terrorism? Or would you be one of those that would look at 9/11 and any future attacks as acceptable and not worth being caused some form of discomfort?

While I agree that we shouldn't sacrifice our freedoms and rights for a feeling of security, 9/11 was a wake-up call, and reminded us that, perhaps we do need to make some sacrifices for the cause of retaining our basic way of life.

Even with the discomforts of such things as the TSA "groping", we still enjoy our rights and freedoms.
@adornoe@
If somehow an air attack was successful, I would not blame the government for not doing enough. I would not blame the TSA, or the airline, or anybody else.

I put the blame solely at the feet of the perpetrators.

While not, nor ever "acceptable", I consider it inevitable. There is absolutely no way in hell we could possibly protect the USA from any terror attack from ever happening. It is not possible. Our country is too vast, too large, and too un-defendable from a "lone agent".

Therefore, giving up ANY freedom that we have is, quite honestly, unacceptable to me. TSA "groping" is a direct violation of our rights and freedoms. It brings the illusion of safety...not any actual safety. Look at the people who have accidentially gotten blades through airport security. Plus, really, with exception to someone blowing up the plane as a whole, no passenger will ever let 9/11 happen again...anyone attempting to hijack a plane will be subdued (if not killed) by the passengers on board.

9/11 was a wake up call...but we as individuals, we as a nation, now better informed, have a greater chance of thwarting terrorism than the TSA ever will.

I will gladly sacrifice my life on an aircraft to prevent 9/11 from happening again. Sacrifice is fine, but in my personal opinion, the sacrifice willing to be made by a person is the choice of that person...I do not choose to have the 4th ammendment not apply in an airport, or any of the other examples I've stated here today.
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samalie: You're still wrong...
adornoe@... 9th Sep
Look, a determined attacker might eventually be successful, but, not taking preventive actions to thwart any attacks, would mean that even the less determined and less "skilled terrorists" would be able to perpetrate those attacks a lot more easily.

Without the safeguards that have been installed since 9/11 there is no doubt that many more attacks would already have occurred, and some of them might have been in the scope and size of 9/11.

Just because you're not privvy to the information about thwarted attacks, doesn't mean that,they haven't been attempted. An attempt will always result in a successful attack if we don't have our guard up.

As far as I can tell, we haven't lost our rights or freedoms, even with the discomfort of the TSA and other annoying regulations.

I'd rather have the discomfort than to be subjected to deadly attacks on a regular basis.

One doesn't really give up his liberties when applying a little bit of security. And, like I said before, we really have not given up those liberties after 9/11 or after TSA-type regulations or even after the Patriot Act.

BTW, you still haven't given us any real names of people who have lost any of their rights or freedoms, and didn't deserve to lose them.
@samalie

"Yes, America still exists. But we now live in a nation where over half the people ARE willing to trade liberty for security."

I couldn't agree more. Our politicians (on both sides) have become bipolar, publicly and proudly embracing the "Let's roll" persona of the brave people that stopped Flight 93 from reaching Washington, but at the same time, trampling our civil liberties when in session. The saddest part is that so many Americans have knowingly and willingly accepted this for "a little temporary security". It's shocking that the only intrusion the people have collectively spoken out against is the TSA screenings when they've greeted so many others with open arms.

Obviously after 9/11 some things had to change in regard to national security, but it's extremely disappointing that we haven't shown the resolve to do so in a way consistent with our rhetoric, and instead have taken the easy road.
@adornoe: You keep asking for a name. How about Maher Arar? I know you say detention is a different beast, but he was detained for 347 days. By Syria. Where he was tortured. That sounds like a victim to me. He's *still* on the no-fly list even though several inquiries have fully exonerated him.

Then there's Pat Tillman and the other 4500 or so US troops killed in Iraq (7000 total killed in Iraq & Afghanistan; Afghanistan at least was a legitimate target).
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scripter: You're kidding, right???
adornoe@... 10th Sep
I'll ask the question again, but with a bit more specificity so you'll understand.

Name a person, who has been detained in the U.S.A., and was detained illegally and with no real cause, and who was denied any of his rights and freedoms?

Syria? Last I heard, it wasn't YET a part of the U.S.

Now, the dead in Iraq have nothing to do with the question I posed, does it? So, why introduce a red herring? Perhaps you can't come up with a legitimate answer to the question I posed and you need to redirect the discussion to other topics?

BTW, in all wars, there will be dead, on all sides.

Alto, Iraq is no longer considered to threat to Israel or any of its neighbors. With Saddam still there, no doubt he would have encouraged and financed more terrorist activity in the region and around the world, like he did before he met his demise.

While you may not have liked removing Saddam, a lot of good came from removing him and his sons and his country from continuing being a threat. And, could you explain why Afghanistan is a legitimate target, and not Iraq? Leaders who advocate and finance terrorism pose the same kind of threat, no matter where they reside.
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Your cup is half empty
Schoolboy Bob 9th Sep
@samalie

I don't live in fear and nobody has groped my genitilia when I have flown since 9/11/2001. Loyal American citizens have not surrendered. We also don't easily surrender our liberties.
@Schoolboy Bob
What about those that HAVE been groped by the TSA? What about warrantless wiretapping? Anyone branded a terrorist being able to be held in a military prison with no access to legal advice or the court system? Suspension of Habeus Corpus?

YOU may not have been personally effected by 9/11, and the erosion of these liberties...but to pretend that the USA hasn't surrendered liberty is burrying your head in the sand. YOU have surrendered, because you refuse to recognize that the government has destroyed essential liberties.
@Schoolboy Bob Exactly - sound like a bunch little cry-babies.
@Schoolboy Bob It's not just the groping. The country is involved in multiple wars in the Middle East now, which affects not just the soldiers but their friends and family back home. We're currently spending as much as the REST OF THE WORLD COMBINED on military spending... but we're told we don't have money to rebuild crumbling infrastructure, have adequate health care, preserve medicare or social security. Osama bragged about the monetary impact of 9/11 - he was a money guy and his goals were always to cripple us financially. Look around - the greatest unemployment since the Great Depression (but far less effort being put in to reversing it). Stock market plunges... debt downgrades, class warfare ramped up. We're falling way behind in math and science education and now to be considered a viable political candidate you have to speak out against evolution. The last shuttle has been retired and we have nothing to replace it and we've gone from winning the race to the moon to having to rely on 1960's-era Soyoz spacecraft to stock the International Space Station.

Things are far, far worse than they were ten years ago, and the mania after 9/11 allowed all sorts of terrible things to be done simply by speaking the words "9/11", from torture to deregulation. No, it's pretty clear bin Laden accomplished his goals.
@Schoolboy Bob Also those who are on the no fly list because their names are similar to someone who has been labeled a terrorist. No we lost a lot of freedoms on 9/11/2001
@Schoolboy Bob

Really, then explain the Patriot Act and various other pieces of legislation that have surrendered our liberties? More specifically, explain why few even batted an eye when these pieces of legislation were passed, and why many of the politicians who voted in favor of them were re-elected?
without just cause, and who has been jailed and without proper representation?

Have you been detained? Which one of your freedoms or rights did you lose after 9/11?
and infrastructure should not be about handing out free government services to anyone, working or not.

Infrastructure should be about roads and bridges, and air traffic control and building and maintenance of airports, and police and fire departments, and court systems, and having enough government structure to administer government responsibilities.

The reasons why we do have so many problems now, especially with spending and the economic collapse of the last few years, is because of the unnecessary growth of government, where it attempted to regulate and control so much of our daily lives while also regulating businesses to the level where they couldn't make ends meet.

Things are not as simple as they might first appear.
of the Patriot Act being enacted?
@Adorne@

Jesus man, do you ever pay attention to the news?

People have been detained at airports for daring to suggest that the FreedomFondle is a violation of the 4th ammendment. Some woman is suing the TSA alleging that a TSA agent actually stuck (her?) finger in the victim's vagina during the FreedomFondle.

If you think this @#$% doesn't happen, then I'm sorry, but you're just not paying attention.
People are detained all the time,even at traffic stops. But, if they haven't really done anything wrong, they're immediately released or get to go to court with representation. That's not exactly the same as losing rights or freedoms.

Now, that has nothing to do with "keeping up with the news", does it?

Understanding the difference between being detained and losing rights/freedoms, is not about the news. It's about the real facts. You can hear and read about it in the news, but the facts still don't change, and being detained is not the same as being imprisoned for no good reason.

Like I said, I don't like the rules any more than the next guy, but one thing for sure is that, the enemy and the terrorists would love it if we let our guard down and forgot about the security measures. I'm pretty sure that, you'd be the first to complain about the lack of security if you found yourself on an airplane that has just been hijacked by terrorists, and you know for sure that you will shortly be dead. Karma! The occurrence of the unexpected, or the occurrence of that which one expected would never happen to him/her.
@samalie

The TSA is (in my opinion) the ONLY "win" the terrorists got from their 9/11 actions.

I think you'll find that most US travellers do not want the TSA and their billions of wasted dollars trying to prevent another terrorist attack. The actions of passengers - even on 9/11 - proved that Americans can take care of themselves. The passengers on Flight 93 on 9/11 heard about the other planes, and knew this wasn't just a normal hijacking. They took action. Unfortunately, by that time, the terrorists had control of the plane, and the result was a crash, but not at the intended target. It was a failure for those terrorists.

Take the "shoe-bomber" terrorist as another example of why Americans don't need the TSA. Passengers on that plane stopped the would-be killer, not the TSA.
How many terrorists has the TSA arrested? How miserable has the TSA made travel for Americans? A TSA agent actually yelled at my 3-year-old son for going around the metal detector! He was just taking the most direct line to his mother, but I'm sure he looked like he was packing guns or explosives.

The fact is, Americans are now more aware of the other passengers on flights, and we vastly out-number the terrorists. We know that, and the terrorists know that. American passengers will not sit by idly while another terrorist attempts to take over a plane. We know our lives - and the lives of people on the ground - are on the line.

I don't live in fear of terrorism. Get past the do-gooder politicians always looking for a vote, and you'll find surprisingly few Americans living in fear of terrorism.
@WozNotWoz
OK, Let me make myself a little clearer here...

I don't live my life in fear of terrorism either. If I saw something suspicious, or if I was on a plane that someone tried to hijack, of course I (and everyone else) would act to thwart the attack.

We aremush more vigilent than we ever were, and an act of terrorism is less likely to occour because of that.

But I state that "we live in fear", because we, as an American People as a whole, have chosen to give up our liberty to prevent another attack. Or to phrase it another way...we have given up liberty because we fear another attack & hope that the government in all its erosion of liberty can prevent it.

That is the "fear" I speak of. The recent survey that stated that 51 percent of Americans agree that "it is necessary to give up some civil liberties in order to make the country safe from terrorism."

That may not be a day-to-day "OMG! I hope I don't get killed in a terrorist attack today!" fear, but it IS fear.

The TSA is the most visible success of the attacks on 9/11...but its the silent success that makes me fear for America...the silence (now) surrounding Guantanamo Bay...the silence of the PATRIOT Act and its erosion of liberty...the silence surrounding warrantless wiretapping...the silence regarding the trillions we have poured into chasing camels in the desert with cruise missiles...the silence of those that choose to accept the violations of the 4th ammendment in the constitution free zone that is the American Airport Security Checkpoint.

When we choose to accept the loss of liberty in the name of safety, we choose to live in fear, even if that fear isn't a daily fear of death by terror. We have left fear control our nation's policies, and erode our freedom.

And in that, terror won on 9/11.
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@samalie Speak for your silly naive scared little rat self. I for one agree with the article and think it is dead on. I for one would love to see the next low-life, bottom feeder terrorist (another word for parasite) try to take over a plan. He/she will torn limb-from-limb. You live in a shadow world of fear, but America as whole no - you yeah - but you are a very small minority.
@ItsTheBottomLine
I do not fear terrorism

I fear what terrorism has done to my freedom and liberty

I fear what the government will do to further erode my freedoms the next time an attack is attempted...not even successfully, but attempted

I fear for an American people that are so scared of the terrorism boogeyman that they have allowed our government to erode our freedoms

I fear that too many Americans are too stupid to realize what is happening

I fear that by the time they wake up we will have lost so much that it cannot be recovered.
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samalie: I accept your concerns
John L. Ries 9th Sep
I have many of the same concerns myself, but I also understand that civil liberties are actually *better* protected than they were for most of the first 60 years of the 20th century. Certainly, there are those who regard due process as a luxury, rather than as a fundamental right, but we remain a democracy (or if you prefer, a republic), which puts us in a position of doing something about it.
@samalie To say that ignores the fundamental principle behind terrorist acts, which is to motivate socio-political change through violence against civilian targets. They failed, and fundamentally terrorism is a failed strategy against any dominant military. I see a lot of citations going back to Pearl Harbor in the other comments. How quickly people forget that during that time there was a scare about Nazi infiltrators. Propaganda encouraged Americans to spy on other Americans and that climate of fear only got worse as the McCarthy era rolled in and the menace changed from Nazis to Communism. Let's not look to our past with rose colored glasses. Any time there has ever been a significant threat to America, either in fact or in perception, civil liberties have been sacrificed in the name of security. Whether it is your neighbor ratting you out to the Un-American Activities Committee for reading Tolstoy or whether it is a TSA agent causing you five extra minutes of discomfort in your life the fact remains that this is nothing new. Like the McCarthy Era this too will pass and be little more than a footnote in history that people will ignore the next time something like this happens. People will whine about how it is the worst thing to happen to the country ever while blissfully forgetting about the past, which we only remember through Leave it to Beaver re-runs apparently. In the big picture this is nothing new and I bet with a little research one could find all kinds of accommodations to fear made in the name of security throughout our history and I bet all of them are just as bad as what we endure now. The crux of what I'm saying is this is not unique. It is not "the worst thing to happen to the US since British occupation." To say so is to wrap yourself up in the blanket of victimhood and have yourself a little pity party. That is one thing we do well in this country, we play the victim, not only that we play the only victim and ignore anything else that doesn't impact our narrow little sphere.
Be clear and specific. And do some real research before you answer.

So, go ahead. Educate me (or us).
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John L. Ries 9th Sep
That he means Joseph McCarthy, not Eugene.
didn't have to be so clearly spelled out.

Eugene McCarthy wasn't a controversial figure, at least not in the same sense that the democrats painted Joe McCarthy to be.

So, why not let the poster to who I posed the question, answer the question?

Tossing out a line without explaining the demonization or the "facts" behind the attack, should never be allowed to stand, and that's why I challenged the poster with my question.
Bin Laden's goal was economic collapse of the West, right from the start. He realized he could never defeat us militarily, so he set about to bring us down by making us spend beyond our means on counter-terrorism efforts.

He was quite successful, as we quickly entered costly wars, ramped up costly security measures at home, and spent ourselves into oblivion.

Take a look at the current economic conditions and you'll find Osama's plan is coming along nicely. Now the key is if the West will wake up in time to recognize it and counter the economic damage that's being done.
If you were to actually analyze where the spending goes, spending related to terrorism, is not even close to the spending which "sent us into oblivion". So, go ahead and research the actual facts.
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@ejhonda
it was the collapse of the housing market, Fanny & Freddy in particular, that pulled the trigger for the current economic crisis, but the gun was being loaded over several decades.
Our government has been spending money that they don't have LONG before 9/11/2001. The government was accumulating debt quickly, not thinking about how it was going to get paid.
@ejhonda ...

The United States was the target because we are the richest and most powerful nation in the world. Islamic extremism is not about politcal gain. It is about vengence against the western democracies. Period. The excuse is that we are "infidels" (nevermind that the "God of Abraham" and "Allah" are one-in-the-same).

Nevermind that many, many religious traditions, (including Islam) are represented by citizens of the western democracies.

The people of the Middle East have many things to be unhappy about but few would choose to take innocent lives. Mostly, their grievances are tied to the brutal ways their governments treat them.

Sadly, many of those governments were installed by the western democracies during the Twentieth Century and they are all tolerated by those democracies today because most of those governments possess large reserves of oil - and acuiring that oil is less expensive than finding/using our own oil reserves.
Terrorism is not a strategy. For some it is a way to gain notoriety. For others, like Bin Laden, it is a way to make a living by selling a bogus product. Terrorism did not win or lose on 9/11 - suicide attackers are by definition losers.
Yes, we are there, but look at the cost of activities such as incurring a couple of hours at security lines, and similar time costing activities. As a business man the overhead has jumped every time I take a flight. May be that is their win ?

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