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Climate-change skeptic turns skeptical about the skeptics

By | October 25, 2011, 9:45am PDT

Summary: A respected physicist and climate-change skeptic from the University of California, Berkeley, set out to prove global warming theorists wrong and winds up verifying the warming trend.

Several major newspapers, including The Washington Post and The Wall Street Journal, have published columns and editorials over the past week inspired by new research into global warming by a team led by Richard Muller, a physicist from the University of California at Berkeley.

Muller, who has been an avowed skeptic of climate change and global warming arguments, set out to prove the data wrong. Instead, he has published an essay in The Wall Street Journal that pulls no punches about its findings.

“Global warming is real,” Muller wrote in his column for the WSJ discussing his findings. “Perhaps our results will help cool this portion of the climate debate. How much of the warming is due to humans and what will be the likely effects? We made no independent assessment of that.”

Muller’s article discusses in fine detail all the reasons why both scientists and the general public have a right to be skeptical, including what he describes as the “largely awful” data quality that is collected by the temperature stations around the United States. The margin of error at 70 percent of those stations, Muller figured, is between 2 degrees and 5 degrees Celsius. What’s more, instruments have changed over time and the local environments have changed. All that makes the data questionable, Muller admitted in his WSJ column.

That’s why Muller and his team took a different approach, collecting more than 1.6 billion measurements from 39,000 stations around the world. That approach revealed the following: one-third of the world’s temperature stations have recorded cooling temperatures, while two-thirds have recorded warming ones. This ratio reflects global warming, Muller wrote: “The changes at the locations that showed warming were typically between 1 degree to 2 degrees Celsius, much greater than the [Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change]’s average of 0.64 degrees Celius.”

Muller’s team also focused on assessing the impact of so-called urban heat islands (an issue often raised by climate-change skeptics) by using satellite readings to analyze temperature trends for “very rural” locations versus “urban” locations. The analysis mapped closely to the temperature increases reported by other research groups, Muller wrote.

The new data has been submitted for peer review, so it has not been independently verified, but Muller’s background as a skeptic certainly lends an aura of credibility to its finding that “global warming is real.”

What remains at issue, of course, is the human factor in all this. But as I have written many times before, does that really matter? What matters, to me, is how smart the current generation of humans can be at applying cleantech and other technologies toward halting or reversing that trend.

via The Washington Post and The Wall Street Journal

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"What remains at issue, of course, is the human factor in all this. But as I have written many times before, does that really matter?"

Really? If it's not manmade and highest modern temps (1998) are still lower than 1300 - why are we spending money, time, resources to combat it?
@vgrig

Exactly! Why try to stop doing something we have no idea has a causal effect? "Because it feels like the right thing to do" is just not good enough and certainly not to the tune of 3 or 4 trillion dollars
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@vgrig ...and being asked to make negative changes in our lifestyles too. Meanwhile we have Mr. Al Gore living in his mansion, riding in limos and flying in private jets and saying "it's ok because I purchase carbon credits to offset all that". So Mr. Liberal and his cronies who claim to be "looking out for the little guy" are advocating policies like cap and trade and carbon credits that let the rich continue to live whatever lifestyle they like because they can afford carbon credits. The "liberals" who protest the "rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer" are the ones wanting to adopt these policies that ensure that will happen.

Oh and by the way, Mr Gore is a partner in a company that trades in carbon credits. So he's advocating for policies that have a direct financial benefit to...wait for it...himself.
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The data is still bad and the margin of error still high, especially for satelites. But it really deoesnt matter. The planet will warm and cool just like every other planet in every other solar system. The folly is to think we can do anything about it for any amount of money. We will do as 100's of millions of other species have done for 100's of millions of years. Adapt or die. This will be easy to adapt for, our extremely low tech forefathers did it with no problem. Quit wasting huge amounts of money on it that could be much better spent elsewhere.
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Interesting title
andrewjg 25th Oct
The vast majority of skeptics from the scientific community do not deny warming. What they are skeptical about it the role humans have played in the warming. So this strikes me as a non story.
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@andrewjg

But is the rise in because of human continued use of fuels and such, or just a coincident that it's happening at the same time?
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That's just the point.
cornpie 25th Oct
@William Farrell No one knows and yet we have you know who going around saying "the debate is over". Well, no, darn it, the debate is NOT over.
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The debate is never over. Anyone who says that one answer is absolutely correct has left the realm of science for religion. Plus, the earth warming could be great for mankind. No one knows for sure.
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@William Farrell

Umm, the rise coincides with the end of the Little Ice Age. So yes, it is a coincidence. In our previous history, when the planet's temp is warmer, its good for everyone. Plants, animals, and humans all benefit. When the planet gets cold is when people start starving because there isn't enough food and fighting breaks out. (the Vikings had to abandon Greenland previously when it got cold after the planet being warmer than today.)

The question isn't why is the planet warming currently, it is why is the planet so cold currently when compared to say 70 million years ago when it was warmer?
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Spot on, and
Richard Flude 26th Oct
@andrewjg What if anything can be done to reverse or slowdown any manmade warming.

Heather, it does "really matter". Trillions of dollars are being wasted on technology that'll have not impact on any warming only to lower productivity and living standards.
@Richard Flude Lowering our standard of living IS the point.
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STOP THE PRESSES!
itguy10 25th Oct
We're in a warming period. We've had warming periods and cooling periods before. The real crux of the debate is if man is responsible for it. And yet that was not discussed.
Good reporting except that climate change is officially dead;
occupywallstreet's list of demands does not include climate change because the scientists and the UN's IPCC are demanding "CO2 climate mitigation" in that we let the world banks fund corporate run CARBON TRADING MARKETS (ruled by politicians), manage the temperature of the planet Earth. However they "DO" stress we address the issues of energy and conservation of wildlife etc. but CO2 and climate change and greenhouse gasses are NOT mentioned. Finally, we have some responsible environmentalism.
The academic practice of exaggerating a worst case scenario isn???t really lying because these lab coat consultants call it ???study??? and ???research? So even though climate change is not real, it???s not a lie to say it is real. In this madness of political correctness, the proof that Human???s CO2 is causing a climate crisis is held in high praise as ???consensus???. But everyone one of the thousands of consensus scientists all have a personal definition of climate change???s effects, NEVER the causes. Can you say consultant???s w#t dream? On the other side of the coin, all denier science deals only in proving that we are going to be causing a climate crisis and not the powers of the cosmos anymore. How many scientists to change a light bulb? None, but they do have consensus that it WILL change.
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What is it going to take?
prof123 Updated - 25th Oct
@mememine69
What is it going to take for you neo-cons to wake up?
You deny the science, even the fact that global warming is happening. Now, human activity and global warming is a "coincidence".

I do not understand why you are so obtuse. The CO2 levels are at 100,000 year high and you think that this is just a normal cycle. Yes, on a 20 million year scale it is just a cycle. However, in the last 100,000 years there were several catastrophic climate events (like ice ages) that have made a large part of the world uninhabitable. Ice core samples suggest that these events happen very quickly,maybe 20 years. When the climate balance is tipped, bad things start happening.

With global population at 7 billion, the prospect of food shortages could kill millions of people, cause wars and much worse.

Please THINK...
@mememine69
Sorry, the opposite is the case, scientists are "conservatives" and state the most likely scenario, not the "worst case".
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The real agenda...
MSFTWorshipper 25th Oct
is to alarm people so much that they will pass record carbon taxes and other environmentalist whacko agenda items to cripple our free market capitalism.
Yup, if you want a reliable opinion on climate, don't rely on climatologists or meteorologists, rely on a physicist--'cause he was a skeptic.

If you want information on how much smaller we can make integrated circuits before quantum effects dominate, don't ask a physicist, ask a climatologist.

Certainly seems logical to me ...
It does not matter how much scientific data you provide, the 9/11 truthers will simply edit their arguments to reflect some other way in which the US caused 9/11. The most obvious example is when they first stated that steel melts at 1,600 degrees, so how did the towers collapse without an explosion. When you explain to them that the steel does not need to actually be at a molten temperature before it looses its tensile strength, they found some other thing to cling to. Likewise, AGW folks will cling to the smallest factoid such as one temperature reading out of tens of thousands, dismissing the remaining evidence out of hand.
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Two things
LiquidLearner 25th Oct
@facebook@...

Skepticism is the core pillar of science. Scientists should never stop being skeptical and should question everything.

The question is if we are having the impact some say we are. The buffalo hurds 200 years ago put out more "greenhouse" gasses than our cars do today. It's also been found co2 doesn't have the impact on warming that many thought it did a few years ago.

Let me ask you this... Whatever happened to the hole in the ozone we were causing 20 years ago, that supposedly would have made it unsafe to go outside by now? Politicians use fear to push the people, man made global warming is likely another fear tactic. But unlike you I'll leave religion for church and continue to keep an open mind. Current climate simulations are woefully lacking.
@LiquidLearner
Funny, you of all people should state THAT...Dr. James Hansen, the leading spokesman for the Climate Crisis has stated the same...scientists should never stop being skeptical and that has made him a better scientists because of all the charges thrown at him by you all.
Unfortunately, the time for this "show" of "debate" has run out. WE can NO LONGER WAIT like in the case of cancer and smoking and issue a warning "it has been determined that burning of fossil fuels has been determined to be harmful to your climate". and allow their continued consumption, which is what the OIL/ Coal merchants want mosty of all!
@LiquidLearner
To answer some of your "ignoramus" statements:

"The buffalo hurds 200 years ago put out more "greenhouse" gasses than our cars do today. " It is estimated that there were around 60 million buffaloes 200 years ago. Today there are over 800 million cars worldwide, each car produces around 11,000 pounds of greenhouse gases per year. 200 years ago, there was 40% less CO2 in the atmosphere than there is today. In fact, the CO2 rise in the last 200 years beats all records going back 300,000 years.

The ozone hole forming around the poles was and still is a big problem. Major cause is CFC chemicals, which have mainly be banned and replaced by more ozone friendly compounds...
@prof123

You do know co2 isn't the only greenhouse gas, right? Methane is far more potent. But you've drawn your conclusion and reason would be wasted on you.
@LiquidLearner Yes "Leaner" I do know about other "greenhouse gases" and what's your point? Like you like to say...makes the situation only more dire and we must act even more so NOW!
@gielsJ ...well, that really proves its true! It's just like Al Gore and his constant use of the phrase "THE DEBATE IS OVER!".

Its the classic tactics of the left. Come up with a simple slogan and insert it into the conversation wherever possible. Say it loudly enough and often enough and in ALL CAPITAL LETTERS! and the sheep will believe you.
@prof123... Please tell me how you arrive at the figure of "11,000 pounds of greenhouse gases per year" per car.

Here is why I am wondering. I drive 24,000 miles per year in a vehicle that gets 25 MPG. That means I would use 960 gallons of gas. Gasoline weighs approximately 6.6 pounds per gallon depending on temperature. So 960 gallons of gas would weigh 6,336 pounds. Now, its been a long time (30 years) since I had a physics class. but I seem to recall something about "conservation of mass.."? How can a certain mass of gasoline somehow turn into nearly twice as much mass of CO2. Now, you are probably going to say that its carbon in the exhaust combined with O2 from the air. But I just do not see any way that the mass of CO2 coming out the tail pipe could possibly be nearly 2x the mass of the gasoline going in. And that's for me, driving a lot more miles than the average person.

PS: Don't bother lecturing me on the difference between weight and mass. I am aware. Lets just throw in the assumption we are staying near the surface of the Earth and leave it at that.
@cornpie

The extra weight is from the 2 oxygen atoms in CO2.
In atomic weights, O=16, C=12 so 16x2 + 12 = 44 atomic weights. To calculate, multiply the amount of carbon in a gallon of gasoline (2421 grams) by 44/12
to get 8957 grams.

You do not have to believe me but you should trust science.

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/co2.shtml
@facebook@... Let me get this straight. Birthers are skeptics about the official story of Obama being a US citizen. For the birther theory to be true there had to have been a conspiracy where 50 years ago the conspirators had to know a mixed race baby might become president 50 years later. Extremely unlikely , ridicules whatever word you want to use. People who do not subscribe to the human caused via CO2 gases causing global warming are skeptics. Therefore if "skeptic" believes something the theory must be beyond the pale. Did I get the way you think yet? Let me try again. Some people who who do not agree with the human caused CO2 global warming theory do not agree that there is global warming at all. Since the world is warming and the skeptics of any global warming are wrong therefore the skeptics of human caused CO2 global warming must be wrong. Guilt by association that's the trick. Not!!! Skepticism s a good thing in general. It's not perfect, it leads to wild "conspiracy theories" etc. It used to be a good American trait. But it is disappearing one reason this country is going downhill in my view. And that data you are so in love with. I would be less skeptical about the data that "proves" human caused CO2 if the scientists that created had not again and again expressed distress at the results when it did not go their way, talked about messaging and hyping the results. I am also "skeptical" because as a member and reader of weather related message boards I have seen 10 computer models producing 10 different projections and the same model flip flopping back and forth. I have seen weathermen hype them to gain clients. Admittedly these models that I read are trying to forecast a few days ahead not years ahead like the models forecasting human caused global warming disasters. Long term forecasting should be more difficult no?
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Government + Conspiracy = BS
cornpie 26th Oct
@edkollin I worked for the government for a long long time in and out of uniform and both state and federal. Any time people start talking about "government conspiracies" I just laugh and tell them: The government isn't smart enough to have a good conspiracy. Anything you think is a conspiracy is really just incompetence masquerading as a conspiracy.
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Y2Kyoto
mememine69 25th Oct
Fact: occupywallstreet's list of demands does not include climate change because the scientists and the UN's IPCC are demanding "CO2 climate mitigation" in that we let the world banks fund corporate run CARBON TRADING MARKETS (ruled by politicians), manage the temperature of the planet Earth.
Fact: Climate change has made fear mongering neocons out of all of us.
Fact: Obama never even mentioned the crisis in his state of the union address in the 25th year of climate crisis warnings.
Fact: Tens of thousands of scientists choose not to march in support of climate crisis awareness despite Obama and the occupy movement abandoning them.
Fact: Nothing besides a comet hit is worse than a CO2 climate crisis yet the scientists sit on their thrones by the tens of thousands.
Fact: Every single one of the tens of thousands of ???consensus??? scientists has as different and unique and special definition of CO2???s effects proving it was a consultant???s wet dream and exaggeration.
Fact: Science gave us pesticides, and cruise missiles and germ warfare???.
Fact: When the CO2 factor is removed from the environmental equation, nothing changes, except needless panic and condemning billions of children to a CO2 death.
Fact: Climate Change mitigation is taxing the air via bank funded and corporate run carbon trading markets ruled by politicians.
Fact: Climate change is the end of civilization because you can???t have a ???little??? climate crisis.
@mememine69 ... that trades in "carbon Credits? I'll give you a hint, his initials are A.G.
@mememine69
http://mediamatters.org/blog/201110250015
Climate Change does not care about your issues and will continue unrelentless regardless. It's all about basic science of Physics and Chemistry.
"What remains at issue, of course, is the human factor in all this. But as I have written many times before, does that really matter? What matters, to me, is how smart the current generation of humans can be at applying cleantech and other technologies toward halting or reversing that trend."

Your logic takes an unsupported leap of faith. There is a growing body of evidence that the climate is warming. Actually I think many folks generally agreed with this assessment although many discrepancies, etc. and this additional study worked to address some of these concerns.

Yet the next question - Is human generated CO2 the principle cause, is it a partial contributor to the increase, or is some other natural process causing this increase. Some models certainly support the case that increasing atmospheric CO2 is driving the increase but other models don't - or offer alternative explanations for the increase in temperature. More study and research is needed if for no other reason then to confirm and better forecast any effect. And if human generated CO2 is a material contributor to this increase what are the costs and benefits of a warming climate. Clearly this planet has gone through much more extreme shifts both up and down in the past.

Anyway - I'm happy to see the discourse go from one of believer/saved vs denier/blasphemer. Yes - there are quite a few vocal folks at both extremes but most would prefer a measured discourse in which the science is evaluated and honest questions or disagreements are addressed.

There are many good reasons for pursuing new sources of energy and improving our efforts at conservation if for no other reason then economic and quality of life benefits.
@Wolf_Lodge
When you say "some models support that CO2 drives the increase and others don't".

Numbers please. 90% of models support that CO2 is the MAIN cause of global warming. You can check it out.
Secondly, not all models are equal. A model designed by Joe Blow in his garage counts for nothing.

Please trust the science. Wasn't it science that put a man on the moon? Oh, I forgot. You believe it was done in a Hollywood studio...
So what if global warming is real. It remains much cheaper to adapt to changing conditions than to try and stop them. We can throw dust into the atmosphere if it becomes necessary. Way cheaper than not using fossil fuels.
@hayneiii@... What changing conditions do you acknowledge? What would be the unintended consequences of throwing dust in the air? These things need to be studied seriously without the deniers falsely claiming that we aren't contributing to the problem. Because if we aren't honest about the problem then we can't develop an answer to how much it will cost us or what kind of viable solutions are available.
My problem with taking a leap of faith and setting policy because it seems humans might be causing global warming is this. Spending on trying to cut CO2 would be better spent preventing death and destruction from weather we know will happen. Replace all the glass buildings that can turn death machines in hurricanes and tornados, send out best scientists to Holland to figure out how to make dikes since we don't seem to be good at it. Study to see if the "heat island effect" mentioned in the article which is proven human caused local warming is causing global warming.
You only need read the last paragraph of his WSJ essay:

"When we began our study, we felt that skeptics had raised legitimate issues, and we didn't know what we'd find. Our results turned out to be close to those published by prior groups. We think that means that those groups had truly been very careful in their work, despite their inability to convince some skeptics of that. They managed to avoid bias in their data selection, homogenization and other corrections.

Global warming is real. Perhaps our results will help cool this portion of the climate debate. How much of the warming is due to humans and what will be the likely effects? We made no independent assessment of that."

Note he did NOT say that humans were, or were not, responsible. What he said was that he made no independant assessment of it and so it is irrelevant in the context of his study and his essay.

But lets get real here, lets use the same logic Dr. Muller has used. If all of the processes and data that previous studies have used have borne out to be genuine and accurate, then I would say that the overall conclusion that such confirmed global warming can only be induced by an increase in CO2 concentration in the atmosphere must also be genuine and accurate. And since we humans are the only ones pumping millions of tonnes of extra CO2 into the atmosphere... it's us causing global warming.


In short:
"Global Warming is Real"
and since only CO2 levels can account for it
"Anthropogenic (human-caused) Global Warming is Real"
Skepticism is good, but it shouldn't take away from the fact that an overwhelming majority of climatologists agree that a large part of climate change is being caused by human activities. You trust scientific data in nearly every aspect of your life and yet you can't believe humans are playing an enormous role in climate change? You're being duped by special interests.

Are all of you skeptics being skeptical of the climate change denial groups that are largely funded by corporations that have an agenda in all of this?

The only valuable debate is the one that exists within the Climatologist community, and yet they keep reaching the same conclusions. Climate change today IS being greatly accelerated by human activity.

The trolls are running rampant.
@brettlyian@... Again lets get this straight. The climatologists came to the conclusion of human based CO2 based on data that looked respectable. Numerous revelations of using the data for hype and climatologists expressing dismay with results they did not expect have put the conclusions from the data reached in doubt. Very first thing I was taught in computer class decades ago the computer is the dumbest machine in the world. Being the skeptic I can be I have asked people in the field if it is still true and the answer is uniformly yes. Computers need humans to program it. Garbage in Garbage out or bias in bias out. Not saying all scientists or climatologists are biased and do not truly be as scientific as possible. Most are honorable. Unfortunately those or more accurately those in leading positions at the at the British Met office and the others where human caused global warming data were gathered and molded have shown to be agenda driven therefore it is folly to make policy based on their conclusions.
@edkollin Every investigation into those scientists that you are saying cooked their data has shown that they did no such thing. In addition those scientists were not the only ones in the world doing research. They didn't even come close to communicating in those emails with every research group. How do you explain that those people who had nothing to do with CRU or Michael Mann came up with roughly the same answers using different data sets? You can't. You apparently even care that those scientists have been cleared of the charges leveled against them since it just doesn't agree with your politics.
Climate change is as real as climate mitigation is and one cannot survive without the other like a boat that is sinking and the hole must be plugged. In other words climate change is not about a changing climate, it???s about controlling Nature's changing climate. How? By taxing the air with bank funded corporate run carbon trading markets ruled by politicians. The science can study the effects of a supposed worst case scenario all it wants but it won???t make it real. Burning witches didn???t prove witches were real and history will mock us all for this era of CO2 environMENTALism.
@mememine69 They'll only be mocking those who write things like your post.
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mememine69 26th Oct
Nothing is more important than the environment we live in and no one of full conscience can honestly dispute this truth. However the different approaches to stewardship make it appear as though some don???t take awareness seriously enough. Climate change deniers can???t simply be swayed with more and more scientific awareness of Human CO2 slowly causing unstoppable warming of the planet. Climate change is pointless and utterly meaningless without CO2 mitigation and that is where the divide starts as deniers do not think anything we do can change the climate, especially by literally taxing the air we breath with Carbon Trading Markets. These bank funded and corporate operated and politician ruled Carbon Markets trade good deeds of climate action that lower the Human levels of greenhouse gas production into the atmosphere. And since Obama never even mentioned a climate crisis in his state of the union address, CO2 mitigation is for now doomed. Unless the thousands of scientists show some unified action on their part to at least get the former believers attention again, we will reach a point soon of no return. Even now the votes are not there. Will climate change slowly kill the planet? If you have to ask the question the answer is no.
People are trusting science data less and less in their daily lives as human biases and yes financial incentives in science are exposed. Human caused or natural caused CO2 is far far far far from the only explanation for any climate change. It is a caused by very complicated interactions between various and numerous natural and probably man made forces forces. Tying such a complicated system it to one force is faith ie religion not science. Explanations of pure good vs evil and predictions of Armageddon. How is this different from the "wingnut" religious right?
@edkollin Your post assumes that none of the climatologists doing this research are smart enough to take these things into account. Have you ever actually tried to read papers by these scientists? Unlikely or you wouldn't have written this post.

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