Electric cars on the streets

Electric cars on the streets

Summary: I took these pictues in the driveway of a home in Dulwich, South London, Britain. The car is called the Gee-Whiz i.


img_4617.JPGimg_4616.JPG I took these pictues in the driveway of a home in Dulwich, South London, Britain. The car is called the Gee-Whiz i. It's being marketed by GoingGreen.

The prices on these little two-seater, all electric cars runs from 9465 to just over 11,100--British pounds. That would translate to a price range of 14,300U$ to 16,725U$. These cars have been available in some version since 2004 in the United Kingdom. Used ones are selling for around 4-7,000 pounds. Battery life is said to be about eighteen months.

The car is designed for the urban commuter, is all electric and takes eight hours to fully recharge and is then good for about 48 miles, says the manufacturer. London's a city with a high congestion charge for any vehicle in the city center and exorbitant parking fees. This car parks for free in some urban spots. The maker claims fuel costs are now 1 pence UK per mile driven.

The cars were designed in California, are built in Bangalore, India, and the largest privately owned fleet of them is in London. They do NOT advertise to avoid the cost, but the sellers claim to be selling or two per day in London...so at that rate by the year 2185, they'll have made a significant dent in the traffic pollution in this densest of European cities. Of course, we may have run out of gasoline by then and be back to donkey-power to great delight of grain producers.

Topics: United Kingdom, India

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  • Donkey Power?

    Do you realize the size of the nuclear powered shovels required to clean-up the mess that many donkeys will leave behind?
  • How much does it cost to replace the battery?

    Since you state the battery only lasts 18 months...
    • Re: How much does it cost to replace the battery?

      A replacement pack of 8 batteries costs ?1795 including all parts, labour and VAT

      Check this site:
  • Forget electric. Compressed AIR is the future.

    Heres why:

    -No batteries to recharge or maintain

    -An internal gas compressor can use crappy gas to recharge the compressed air tanks

    -Because it uses regular gas, gas stations can stay where they are, no need for any kind of country wide change out of systems.

    -Gets 400-500 MPG.

    -You can use an electric compressor to recharge the tank instead of using gas.

    -Home compressors could be used to recharge the tank

    -200 miles between compressed air fill ups.. if only using compressed air.
    • Air Power? I've Heard Of It

      Hey Been_Done_Before,
      Give us more info, Dude. Where's a URL full of info. Don't keep it a secret, broadcast the message.
      • Air Power - coming in 2010?

        I'm looking forward to the air car. Here are the 'facts' that I've picked up regarding this vehicle. (Note - the car isn't available yet. Don't know if it will live up to the hype.)

        Length - 13.4 ft
        Width - 5.97 ft
        Height - 5.74 ft
        Seating - 6 seats
        Trunk volume - 35 cubic ft
        Weight - 1874 lbs
        Engine - 6 Cyl.
        Power - 75 hp
        Max Speed - 96 mph*
        Mileage - 106 mpg*
        Range - 848 miles (8 gal tank) *
        Co2 - 0.141 lbs/mile (at speeds >35mph; zero emissions at <35mph)

  • RE: Electric cars on the streets

    Some curios things: Compressor, ~800 cu ft/hr, tank, 3200 cu/ft = ~4 hr recharge? 5.5 kwh compressor, is about power, so should be kw. Need special circuit to plug in at home. I'm suspicious about 800+ mi/charge with 1800 lb vehicle. Pollutants are shifted to the elec power plant. Prof
    Prof Bob
  • RE: Electric cars on the streets

    Funny you mentioned donkeys and grain.

    The original use of Clark Field in the Philippines after the Spanish American War was as a haying station (as in horses). At around that time, the Commerce Department was predicting that we would be a net grain importer by 1920, since all domestic production would be needed to feed draft animals.
  • Problem is, they're an awful joke

    Only fairly committed Londoners drive these. Most other places they're a national joke, or "nice idea, but not good enough" at best. Their crash safety has been shown to be abysmal. The original ones had a 40mph top speed, which equates to them being a rolling roadblock when mixed in with normal traffic that can accelerate through that speed with noticable G-force... the newer ones manage 50, but that certainly wouldn't satisfy my own commute through Birmingham, and the range would be borderline for a cross-city commute (i'd actually be on the train for this one, if there was a line anywhere near my workplace) on a fresh, fully charged battery in winter if I drove reasonably conservatively. Right now a motorcycle, or even an Aixham 500cc diesel microcar looks a more viable prospect.

    Also at ??10,000 ... that's a hell of a lot of money for a jumped-up golf cart (with less seating capacity than a typical cart, too). My current car, I bought used, almost 4 years ago. It cost ??2500 then and has cost me nowhere near that much in servicing. Fuel, if my log is to be believed, under ??5000. Plus I can get to 60 in under 15 seconds, and achieve a terminal velocity of roughly 100 on the flat, which provides about enough thrust and flexibility to deal with a hilly town with limits up to 70 and cramped but fast-moving traffic.
    Oh, and it takes at least a week between "recharges", including impromptu shopping or social trips that would otherwise be in the middle of G-Wiz charging time.

    The rest of the monetary difference - including charging and battery replacement costs - could quite easily be sunk into carbon offsetting schemes or efficiency improvements to my house, etc, that would probably achieve about as much benefit.

    For replacement of this one, I'm waiting for the Polo Bluemotion (similar performance and interior room, but better than twice the efficiency and less than 2/3rds the emissions) to reach the second-hand market at a decent price. Say, ??5000?

    I'm all for electric cars but this thing is a terrible, early-adopter PoS. Give me an affordable everyman product along the Tesla philosophical lines. Or at least a Th!nk City (65mph, ~100 mile range, 4 "real" seats).
  • RE: Electric cars on the streets

    how come these cars are not yet being advertised? i think these cars and their parts (<a href="http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/shop_brands/revtek.html">Revtek</a>) are generally good, well except for the price... it really is a nice idea indeed, but really not good enough...
  • Problem with Electric Cars is..

    You transfer the pollution to the power generating plant.

    Until we can crack Fusion power, there will always be a waste output.

    And before you say it. Wind and Solar power do not provide continuous power. You still need a backup power system. Coal, Gas, Nuclear, Hydro.

    The US has the largest deposits of coal that we could burn, BUT the new president has already stated that any new coal fired plants would go bankrupt with taxes before they were even turned on.