House: we have an energy bill

House: we have an energy bill

Summary: The U.S. House has now passed its version of a new energy bill.

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The U.S. House has now passed its version of a new energy bill. It does not match one passed earlier this year by the Senate. And neither bill matches what President BUsh indicates he would sign into law.

The House bill does require utilities to use more renewable energy sources in producing electricity. It calls for 15% of electric generation to come from renewable sources such as wind, solar or hydroelectric. The House bill calls for more stringent energy efficiency standards on new buildings, appliances and lighting. It does NOT raise mileage standards on cars. That is a conflict with the Senate bill.

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  • Typical

    mandates 15% to come from (fill in the blank).

    Congressional arrogance at work again. Just wave your hand and think you can set aside the laws of physics.

    The best energy bill is one that throws open all U.S. oil reserves to drilling, and lifts the environmental regulations on nuclear power. But, no, these jackasses won't be happy until we look like North Korea.
    frgough
    • What law of physics?

      I have asked you this repeatedly and you still haven't answered. Are you talking about the power alternatives can produce?

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      Bottom line, you and your kind are going the way of the dinosaur... so you better adapt and push for more efficient electronics and accept that green is the way of the future. It's that simple, law of supply and demand will see your solution expended in 50 years or so. ]:)
      Linux User 147560
      • That's all well and good...

        ...for a fair bit of the USofA, and everyone between the Tropics, but what about the northern states, like Washington, Maine and Alaska? What about the majority of Canada? Solar isn't strong enough, and doesn't work well under a layer of snow. Wind, though quite strong at times - frozen gensets and iced props are pretty useless. Hydro's not gonna happen, unless you can figure out how to make ice flow across turbine blades.

        One size does not fit all.
        Dr. John
  • yet another way to raise the cost of energy

    I'm up for saving the environment, but is there a conclusive study as to what this will cost and if it's feasible?

    People will find a way to get it done, but it will be at the 11th hour and at a much bigger expense than it should be.

    If our electric bills double thanks to all these new measures, we'll all be saving the environment by using less electricity in our minor economic depression.
    lauren.glenn
  • Where true solutions come from

    True solutions to problems are only assisted by legislation. Where they really come from is technological breakthroughs. Energy is no exception. The breakthroughs that are needed will address multiple issues, such as global warming, high energy costs of all sources, and sustainablility. The transportation fuel of the future will be hydrogen and it will come from splitting the water molecule. Electrical energy, within the forseeable future, will come from solar and geothermal. Children of today will have difficulty remembering the days when people on earth actually burned coal to produce electricity and gasoline to operate their transportation vehicles. New ways of harnessing solar and geothermal energy far more efficiently than ever before have now arrived. They have been proven and even received United States Patents. The cost to the people of earth will be almost nothing, in fact it could cost them less. These technologies are simple, but vastly more capable than what they will replace. When you see them you will be amazed that something so simple could have taken so long to develop, but I assure you they have arrived and they will alter our future dramatically.
    effstroker
    • What color is the sky in your world?

      Cause it's not the blue of planet earth. Let's correct a few mistakes:

      1. Hydrogen is already being thrown out as a viable fuel. It costs too much to produce and store it, requiring electricity to create it (it's called hydrolysis) therefore needing another fuel source to produce it.

      2. While geothermal energy may be AN answer, the technology is FAR FAR from being perfected or even usable. Most estimates put it at 50 or more years.

      3. Solar cells are still very inefficient and as another poster stated, not practical in cloudy climates. Unless significant breakthroughs are made in this area, solar energy is likely to be abandoned altogether...

      We are going to see new ways to burn coal cleanly and it will be the fuel of choice for the next 50-75 years. By then we can only hope to have discovered cold fusion and or some other way of producing energy.
      Antagonist