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Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

I'm not surprised that consumer interest in Windows tablets has plummeted

By | November 29, 2011, 8:27am PST

Summary: Forrester says this should be “alarming to Microsoft.”

According to a Forrester Research report, consumer interest in Windows tablets has plummeted by a whopping 21% over the past 6 months. Forrester says this should be “alarming to Microsoft.”

Here are the numbers:

Who’s surprised to hear this? I’m not in the least bit surprised. Here’s why.

First, the tablet market is now well established. The iPad is the king, the Kindle Fire is the queen, Android devices are the serfs filling in the gaps, and the PlayBook is the jester. That’s enough for consumers to get their heads around as it is.

Then there’s the, well, absence of Windows 8 tablets to attract the eye. Windows 8 isn’t out yet. The marketing machine hasn’t been kicked into gear. Without shiny things to catch the eye it’s natural that people’s minds are going to wander elsewhere. People (in particular consumers) want to know about what they can buy in the here and now, not six months or so down the line. The holiday season tends to focus and magnify this effect as people are thinking about what they can buy within the next few weeks.

Another thing about that chart that caught my eye is that a massive 24% of respondents ‘who are not opposed to buying a tablet’ don’t know what OS they’d want on their tablet, almost as many as want iOS (28%) and eight percentage points more than want Android on their tablet.

Sure, it’s hard to see where Microsoft and Windows fits into the tablet equation, especially as the bar that makers have to limbo under in the non-iPad market now seems to be set at $199 by Amazon, but let’s wait to see what hardware and software innovations will be baked into Windows tablets before writing them off as dead.

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Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

Adrian Kingsley-Hughes is an internationally published technology author who has devoted over a decade to helping users get the most from technology -- whether that be by learning to program, building a PC from a pile of parts, or helping them get the most from their new MP3 player or digital camera.

Adrian has authored/co-authored technical books on a variety of topics, ranging from programming to building and maintaining PCs. His most recent books include "Build the Ultimate Custom PC", "Beginning Programming" and "The PC Doctor's Fix It Yourself Guide". He has also written training manuals that have been used by a number of Fortune 500 companies.

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RE: I'm not surprised that consumer interest in Windows tablets has plummeted
ScorpioBlue 1st Dec
@marthill I'll repeat this again since it's lost on you.

Nice spin on a public relations disaster. Android is a known quantity. Windows on a tablet isn't and yet it still slips down to 25% in spite of that. And as I said before, who's to say it won't slip even further. The Windows 8 launch date is still 6 months to a year away, adding even more time for the Android and the iPad ecosystem to grow.

So no matter how you spin it, it doesn't look good. Even for something as subjective as "consumer interest".

Capice? If you have any further problems, ask one of your fellow sock puppets about it. They can help you out,
All the current tablets are companion devices. That means I have to have a laptop and a tablet to do some work. Lets assume the lowest price of a laptop to be $399 and a tablet at $199. That is almost $600. I am looking for a device which when docked or when it detects an external keyboard and a mouse transforms itself into a full fledged desktop. And without these devices it becomes a touchscreen device mostly to be used for content consumption or light work. With the current quad core ARM chips I think its possible and that would/should be the target audience for Windows 8 tablets.
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@1773 Agreed.

You could look at the historical example of netbooks. Linux netbooks were going to be so cheap and cool and everybody was going to buy them. Only they didn't since Windows could also run on them and it was way better.

The difference with tablets is Windows isn't ready and both ios and android are. It's a similar niche, though.
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Events force us to consider the possibility that people who think that tablets are supposed to be "little computers" are dead wrong. Microsoft is headed straight into the same ditch that broke the wheels at HP, RIM, Motorola, et.al. These are "computer companies" that thought the public wanted little computers. So that's what they made. And look what happened: splat.

Sure, until Windows 8 is shipped and some OEM has the stones to try to build and sell more little computers (it'll be tough to find hardware partners after what's happened so far), no one will know for certain. But those at Microsoft who assume that bringing 'computer chops' to the party will help them could be in for the worst sort of Big Surprise. Or not. The fun part is, they have to invest hundreds of million to find out, and the OEMs have to go along.
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@Robert Hahn, Tablets are little computers already. If they are less than computers, they will fail as full computers in small form factors become just as cheap (just like the netbooks of old). People always want more power, more speed, more capabilities, for less money. If that wasn't the case, we'd never progress at all, being fully satisfied with rounded rocks for wheels.

Our current crop of mobile devices (phones and tablets) are the replacements of netbooks, which were temporary hold outs while technology prices gradually come down. Once we have a mobile CPU with 12 cores combined with Kinect, 32 point touch, 64GB RAM, with 24hr full use battery life for $200, then we'll be at a point where every phone is a full computer, every house needs routers for the many devices with full computer capabilities.
@1773 iPad is no longer a companion device. It can operate on its own without linkage at all to a Mac or Windows laptop. It can update its OS software by wifi.
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@1773
The numbers are somewhat shocking, but at the same time understandable. In Is said that Android showd some gain in interest it still trails Windows despite the huge number of available Android devices.

So what that's saying is that even though Android was early to the game, it hasn't helped them, more likely hurt Android as companies are rushing out the equivilent of an unfinished, unstable OS.

So is it better to be early or late as there's two messages in the article itself
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In Is said that Android showd some gain in interest it still trails Windows despite the huge number of available Android devices.

Trails in what? Phones? Tablets?

That's the topic of this thread, ya know.

So what that's saying is that even though Android was early to the game, it hasn't helped them, more likely hurt Android as companies are rushing out the equivilent of an unfinished, unstable OS.

Android phones are selling just fine. Where's the Microsoft phone in all this? hint: rhetorical question in case you didn't get it
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Read the article - TABLETS
William Farrell 29th Nov
@ScorpioBlue
Why not read the article yourself? You'll have to have Andrian link to it as he's leaving a lot out of his assesment.
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@ScorpioBlue
You almost had a reasonable statement
Trails in what? Phones? Tablets? That's the topic of this thread, ya know.

Tablets. That was the subject being talked about, and that was the paragraph from the report on tablets.

Sigh
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@William Farrell

I'm not surprised you can't pick up on what a rhetorical question is. Of course I knew what you were talking about. I just wanted to hear another dumb response from you.

You say Android trails Windows in the tablet market, yet Microsoft has nothing that competes with the Android tablet or the iPad. Now how can you reconcile that?

And since you're so delusional, I'm flagging you for being a troll.
@marthill I'll repeat this again since it's lost on you.

Nice spin on a public relations disaster. Android is a known quantity. Windows on a tablet isn't and yet it still slips down to 25% in spite of that. And as I said before, who's to say it won't slip even further. The Windows 8 launch date is still 6 months to a year away, adding even more time for the Android and the iPad ecosystem to grow.

So no matter how you spin it, it doesn't look good. Even for something as subjective as "consumer interest".

Capice? If you have any further problems, ask one of your fellow sock puppets about it. They can help you out,
99% of this "researches" or "reports" are always wrong.
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We do precision guesswork
Robert Hahn 29th Nov
What do you suppose Microsoft is basing its planning on? Research reports that are wrong?
@Robert Hahn Precision Guesswork !!! I will remember it as an example of oxymoron.
@Rigel.628 60% of the time it works every time.
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No, it's only wrong when it predicts
William Farrell 29th Nov
@Rigel.628

a Linux failure.

The report does state that even at the lower interest level, people are still more interersted in a future Windows tablet then they are over the currentlly existing Android tablets.

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The report does state that even at the lower interest level, people are still more interersted in a future Windows tablet then they are over the currentlly existing Android tablets.

It does? Where does it say that?
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@ScorpioBlue

Which part of "25% is more than 18%" confuses you?
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Which part of "25% is more than 18%" confuses you?

Only a shill would try to spin this into some kind of victory. Did you bother to read the link?

"In Q1 2011, Windows was by far the top choice of consumers while no touch-first Windows tablets existed, 46% of U.S. consumers yearned for one. By Q3 2011, that picture had changed dramatically: Windows was no longer No. 1 in choice preference, and interest among consumers dropped to 25%. Microsoft has missed the peak of consumer desire for a product they haven't yet released."

Sounds like they missed the boat, pal. And who's to say that even that 25% won't plunge further.
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@William Farrell
//techcrunch.com/2011/11/29/forrester-consumer-interest-in-a-windows-tablet-tumbles-but-still-leads-android/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Techcrunch+%28TechCrunch%29
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@ScorpioBlue

"William Farrell" pointed out that even with the lower interest, there is still more interest in a Windows tablet than an Android tablet. You asked where it said that. I showed you the Math 101 behind his statement. And you still don't get it.

If you can't even read a simple table then you should just stop posting altogether.
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//techcrunch.com/2011/11/29/forrester-consumer-interest-in-a-windows-tablet-tumbles-but-still-leads-android/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Techcrunch+%28TechCrunch%29

@William farrell and @Qbt

LOL... Nice spin on a public relations disaster. Android is a known quantity. Windows on a tablet isn't and yet it still slips down to 25% in spite of that. And as I said before, who's to say it won't slip even further. The Windows 8 launch date is still 6 months to a year away, adding even more time for the Android and the iPad ecosystem to grow.

And did you read the reader's responses down at the bottom of that link? Even they know a joke when they see it.

Really sock puppets, no matter how you spin it, it doesn't look good. Even for something as subjective as "consumer interest".

lol... grin
@Rigel.628

I'm trying to remember the last time Forrester was right about anything.
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I use a Windows PC at work, as does my wife. We have a Windows PC at home. My wife has very little experience with Apple PCs, & no experience with anything from OS 8 onward. I've worked some with OS X-based systems, but still prefer Windows.

So, for me, the question is, would a laptop be a "stand-alone" for me -- i.e. just an oversize MP3/video player device -- or something I want to integrate with my home PC? If it's the former, then I would base my purchase on availability & cost... which would probably steer me towards an Android (or even Apple) tablet. But if it's the latter... then it would be a Windows tablet all the way.
@spdragoo@...

Windows usage is declining. It's a fact. It's slowly declining and it will be a long road to the bottom but Windows and MS will find out what it's like to be at the bottom. And when they hit that bottom we all will be better off.
@itguy10 Thank you for your totally useless opinion !!
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@itguy10, Wasn't IBM supposed to go away into a faint memory of existence? Microsoft is already reimagining itself and its products. They'll be around longer than most Linux distributions.
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MS is a dead brand
itguy10 29th Nov
When people have a choice or think they have a choice they don't pick Microsoft or Windows.

Windows Phone 7 - FLOP
Zune - FLOP
Kin - FLOP
Windows - declining market share
Internet Explorer - declining market share
xBox - de-emphasizes the MS connection and it sells well.
Tablets - Flop because of the FUGLY Tile UI. People think it's FUGLY and it is.
@itguy10 Wake and see the beautiful Metro UI. The sae UI that will be across Windows Phone, Windows 8 and Xbox 360.
Combine that with a common cloud service (SkyDrive) and services (Zune, Games, Office etc.) they have a winning solution!!!
@jatbains

Metro is not beautiful, it's FUGLY. Looks like some cheap rip off of good design. It's horrible but MS really doesn't know good design. The last "decent" thing they had was the Win98 UI.
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@itguy10 We get it - you hate Microsoft. What I do not get is how you can claim that WP7 is a flop. Do you have anything that proves this? You also claim that Tablets are a flop... the iPad has sold millions, the Android based offerings have sold quite well - or did you mean that non-existent Windows based Tablet?
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Itguy10 - here you go -
William Farrell 29th Nov
@ityguy10
Android???s appeal gained some ground going from 9% in Q1 to 18% in Q3, although it still trails Windows despite the huge number of available Android devices

Android on tablets = EPIC FAIL

LOL!
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@itguy10
So you are the sole spokesman for all mankind? Seems you think so. I use Microsoft across all my devices except my Samsung tab and we love the ecosystem and the connected devices at home. Zune and its software is a much better experience than anything Apple or Google have to offer. Not to mention Zune pass which is great and I can download what I want and discover much more music than without it. Zune on the Xbox is great too for renting movies(very good pricing) and downloading content to the Xbox. Great for streaming all my movies from my computer to the xbox and with kinect it will be even better. Windows Phone 7 is great as well, sure you don't like it, but me and my girlfriend(ex-apple user) love the phones and they never have to be rebooted or wait for anything, they just work each and every day and I have not heard one complaint from my girlfriend as she would let me know if there was a problem and the fact that I convinced her to give it a try. Windows 8 will be hitting on all those notes when it is released and somehow from all your posts here you actually agree with me, because you are on a mission to discredit Microsoft at every step and usually that indicates you have some worries about them making a success out of these businesses. Good luck with your hard work there, but doubt it will pay off for you!
@OhTheHumanity

If Zune were truly a better experience it would have dethroned the iPod. And we all know how that turned out.

The declining marketshare for WP7 shows people think its a flop.

Yes, I hate Microsoft. That's a fact. Their day at the bottom will come; all those on top fall (even Apple and Google).
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Yes, I hate Microsoft. That's a fact. Their day at the bottom will come; all those on top fall (even Apple and Google).

All big monopolies come to an eventual end. History has shown that.
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@Itguy10
Well lets see, the Zune was a little late to the party, but doesn't mean its not the better software. And really its hard to beat a company that yes has sone things pretty good, but never does anything wrong. Which we all know is Apple. Heck I know someone that had their iphone burn up on them and got as hot as stove, but they still will never say anything bad about Apple(he still doesn't know I know about this, and he hasn't said a peep to me yet). Can't say I have had any Microsoft product burn up on me to where I could fry an egg on it and ingest some toxic fumes, but thats the world we live in and some people just take things in their life way to personal. I'm sure you know how that kind of thing works since you seem to invest alot of personal capital in bashing Microsoft at every step.
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@itguy10
The numbers are somewhat shocking, but at the same time understandable. In Q1 2011, 46% of potential tablet shoppers wanted a Windows tablet, but in Q3, that number dropped to just 25%. During the same time period, Android???s appeal gained some ground going from 9% in Q1 to 18% in Q3, although it still trails Windows despite the huge number of available Android devices

Android on a tablet = FAIL
I don't know of a Windows 8 tablet that's been released to the public yet, so your distorted FUD epically fails.
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@itguy10

Yet last year was ms most successfull year. It did sell a record amount of Office 2010 and Windows 7 licenses. So many that it totally crushes any competitors. Windows declining market share is a few percent over a 5 year period. At this rate it will take another century for Windows to disappear. With the absence of any viable alternative, it os just wishfull thinking. The tile ui is a major improvement over the boring decades old icon grid that are presnet in the competition. I just got myself a wp7 device, a real nice piece of Nokia hardware, the os it runs is just awesome, so much more appealing then ios or android. I have no doubt wp7 will be everything but a flop, it certainly isn't to me, as my shiny new lumia 800 is the best phone I ever gotten my hand on, it beats the new iphone 4s hands down, and it looks much nicer to boot.
So if this study ends up wrong, then what? Should they lose the ridiculous amounts of money people pay them for their advice ? I mean really, with apple only on the ipad 3 and tablets just now becoming affordable, I find it hard to believe that the tablet market is cracked. Anyone hear of a little product called PS2? It sold really well, and all microsoft had was the xbox. They said it was doomed from the start, That there were already 2 market leaders that controlled it all(sony and nintendo). I wonder what chance forrester gave the xbox back
then?
@cassclae I completely agree never count MS out!! Windows Phone will succeed if only because of the cesspool that Android is.
Windows 8 will provide a Halo effect for the phone.
Let us all now pray to the Temple of Ballmer. @jatbains has declared it so.

lol... grin
I agree. People are thinking about what is out right now or very soon, like next month at the most. Windows 8 isn't likely out til July 2012 at the earliest and the best tablets for that system are probably coming out for Christmas 2012. So no one is caring about Windows tablets right now.
Windows tablets are available but no one wants to talk about them because of price. A full feature Windows machine that is also a tablet selling below $500 is going to be a challenge as Android machine have dragged the price that low. Another year of Kindles selling at $200 is going to make entering the market even more painful.
One of these groups, I forget which, said that there was a substantial decrease in the interest of the iPad after it was announced.

These guys don't have crystal balls. Put no stock in their suppositions.
Tablets are expensive toys, and hardly suited to intensive data entry use. "Tap 'n' touch" may be fine for certain tasks, but hardly any serious contention for a notebook or desktop computer. With Microsoft's ballyhoo about Windows 8 for tablets, with nothing really being said for notebooks or desktops, no wonder interest is dropping. As an old Wendy's commercial said it so well. "Where's the beef?"
Microsoft is always years behind tech why is this?
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...seems to follow the how much hype gets drummed up in the tech circles. Now that the tech boards have speculated and picked the little available tidbits to death but still have no product to drool over, we're losing interest and moving on.

No surprise there.
lets face it everyone wants a iPad they just want a cheep one.
if apple knocked them out for ??200 they would clean up the market. and all else would fail. same with all apple products realy. look at the ipod - who realy wanted to buy a clone?

I'm not a rich guy and have a family to run so I can't justify a Tablet at all @ the proces and functionality. but when I get to play with a iPad they have to wrestle me to get it back..

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