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iPhone 3G GPS - Is it too small in the antenna department to be any good?

By | July 18, 2008, 4:23am PDT

Summary: Ever since reading David Pogue’s review of iPhone 3G I’ve been puzzling over something he said in relation to the GPS receiver. Specifically, is it too small in the antenna department to be any good?

Ever since reading David Pogue’s review of iPhone 3G I’ve been puzzling over something he said in relation to the GPS receiver. Specifically, is it too small in the antenna department to be any good?

Here’s what Pogue had to say about the iPhone 3G GPS antenna:

Unfortunately, there’s not much you can do with the G.P.S. According to Apple, the iPhone’s G.P.S. antenna is much too small to emulate the turn-by-turn navigation of a G.P.S. unit for a vehicle, for example.

Instead, all it can do at this point is track your position as you drive along, representing you as a blue dot sliding along the roads of the map. Even then, the metal of a car or the buildings of Manhattan are often enough to block the iPhone’s view of the sky, leaving it just as confused as you are.

At the time I found that to be a very curious statement given that I’ve handled countless GPS receivers and GPS-enabled devices that don’t seem anywhere near the quality of the iPhone that can handle turn-by-turn navigation.

Bob BorchersIn an email Pogue told me that he’d been told by Bob Borchers, senior director of worldwide iPhone product marketing at Apple (he’s also the guy that’s featured in the iPhone tutorials), that the iPhone 3G’s GPS chipset was weak and that the antenna was small. Pogue was also told that the tiny metal ring that you can see around the camera lens was part of the GPS antenna. When Pogue asked for confirmation that there would be no turn-by-turn software for the iPhone 3G he was told that the GPS was intended for quick “where am I” checks rather than navigation.

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Do you plan to use an iPhone 3G as an in-car GPS receiver?

However, to complicate matters, Apple product head Greg Joswiak told ExtremeTech a different story:

What’s the deal with GPS driving directions? Many developers have said that Apple’s SDK license agreement prohibits the development of driving-directions apps, and the New York Times’s David Pogue muddied the waters by saying that the iPhone’s GPS isn’t physically capable of providing driving directions. “According to Apple, the iPhone’s G.P.S. antenna is much too small to emulate the turn-by-turn navigation of a G.P.S. unit for a vehicle,” Pogue wrote.

That’s wrong, Joswiak said; the iPhone’s GPS is just like the GPS in other phones, many of which do provide driving directions. Rather, there are some murky “complicated issues” preventing driving directions apps at the moment. “It will evolve. I think our developers will amaze us,” he said.

I’m speculating that those “complicated issues” revolve around liability in the event that the GPS receiver taking you for a nosedive into a bay somewhere.

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Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

Adrian Kingsley-Hughes is an internationally published technology author who has devoted over a decade to helping users get the most from technology -- whether that be by learning to program, building a PC from a pile of parts, or helping them get the most from their new MP3 player or digital camera.

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kayb100 24th Jan 2011
me and my gf both just bought iphones, 3g 8gb. My girlfriends gps system works perfectly, we just went on a 5 hour complicated drive and the GPS system gave us turn by turn perfectly, the whole 5 hours and actually found us a better route. Iphone is 100% capable of giving a FULL GPS experience. HAVING SAID THAT, like i said, i also bought an iphone 3g, mine does not work, i have tried many apps, none of them work (the same as shes using too). All of her gps apps work perfectly, turn it on, its located in seconds, directions come up instantly. My iphone cannot even accurately locate my position on google maps, its usally a 1-2 km out. Very dissapointing. Its come to my attention that all the iphones are like that, some are working, some (exactly the same) are not, ask yours friends, some will say it works, others will say it doesnt. A complete mistory.
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Is it a battery issue for the turn by turn?
justit1234@... 18th Jul 2008
Some have said a a turn by turn would be a massive drain on battery performance. Could it be that Apple actually wants a 3rd party developer to build turn by turn so that it doesn't get blamed for the poor battery performance?

Another issue, maybe they don't want to be seen as a direct competitor to TOM TOM / GARMIN... for now atleast?
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fonegirl 18th Jul 2008
As for me, I will wait for Garmin's Nuvifone release expected in October before I make a decision on replacing my wireless device.
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That's possible ...
Adrian Kingsley-Hughes 18th Jul 2008
... it could well be a heavy drain on the battery.
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baterry is irrelevant
mrregistered 19th Jul 2008
Battery is irrelevant, because in car you would connect iPhone to a dock, and dock can charge the phone.
"It will evolve. I think our developers will amaze us,"

I read that as saying that they are working on a turn-by-turn solution and don't want any competition coming in and stealing the stage while they finish their development. On a related note, I thought that Tom-Tom already had a solution in the works.
hoenstly I don't know why you'd assume its because of liability, wouldn't all of the GPS makers have that? Apples deep pockets would make any liability lawsuit minor compared to Garmin or TomTom.

No, the logical choice is that they've already convinced an established player to bring their system over, and this player, in exchange for destroying their hardware business demands exclusive access for a set time.

Building and more importantly maintaining software like this is completely out of Apples expertise and as anyone including them can see is better left to those who can specialize.
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Size doesn't matter!
Marcos El Malo 18th Jul 2008
It's not the size of the ship, uh, it's the motion of the ocean.
Yeah, that's the ticket. =)
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Even if it is properly docked, the screen is too small to read clearly. The biggest priority for an in-car GPS, after reception, should be screen size. Too many accidents are caused by people squinting at their screen, trying to figure out where they are going, while they are weaving all over the road.
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They should learn to read maps!
GoPower 21st Jul 2008
Turn by turn is crazy, if you can figure out how to use a GPS unit you ought to be able to read a map and navigate yourself.
Perhaps all cars should run on auto pilot as the human element always seems to be the weak link.
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LeeC 21st Jul 2008
What, you think people should drape a paper map across the steering wheel while they are driving? Or do you prefer lying it on the passenger seat so you have to look down (and away from the road) every 5 minutes. I can only presume that either you can't drive, or you're really bad at it, to think like that. But well done for proving the weak human element theory... You can operate a PC but you can't use common sense, point proven.

Turn by turn is "safe", reading a map while driving is just plain stupid... pick your own category to sit in, I can see the seat with your name on it from here.

If you've got a good voice based turn by turn, 100% of your concentration can be on the road and that simple figure is the single most important factor of them all...
I read elsewhere, that Apple and TomTom are still in contract
negotiations. That and possibly that the TomTom software
has not passed Apples quality standards yet.
But...
Like everything else in Apple's future, they are all rumors
until something concrete is announced.
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as usual
dgurney 20th Jul 2008
Consumers are hampered and ripped off by products that are intentionally crippled.

"Liability" and, more often, illegal patents have crushed innovation and invention in this country.

It's truly pathetic when there's no product that's allowed to function fully because of fear or threats.

Land of the free, my ass.
Many GPS devices have problems receiving signals in cars. The answer is to get a low range (say 2-2.5m) re-radiating external antenna. Problem solved.
I've no idea about its accuracy and usefulness in a car. But I've been using mine walking around here in London - the positioning is almost always spot on and Google Maps download nice and quick over 3G.
Well seeing as the IPhone still cannot act as a highspeed modem I am not ready to give up my BlackBerry just yet anyways.

JT
http://www.FireMe.To/udi
like most in car nav, it is used to relieve the driver of knowing where and what they are doing. the screen is too small to effectively use as a map, like the majority of units on the market. the antenna strength would be equivalent to any other dedicated phone with GPS (excluding HPs IPAQ6515 which is a GPS with phone capability). the ability to use step by step directions is the responsibility of the mapping SW not the receiver.

Schooner in Australia
with a 6515 who still uses paper maps and my brain
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This was one insightful article....
Kill-the-hype 7th Aug 2008
...not. Why on earth did you even bother writing this? This was all based on other peoples opinions and hearsay. Why didn't you go out and test the unit and write a piece on your experiences. Then based on those experiences, bring in expert opinions to answer some questions.

Sorry, you did not earn your paycheck on this one.
I just wanted to let some folks know that while the analysis that the metal ring surrounding the camera is *definitely* not part of the GPS antenna (it's not even close to the antenna location from an electromagnetic perspective), it is worthy to note that you don't need to have a connection between metal items for them to be part of the antenna. That's the whole point of having an antenna: you can connect things wirelessly. In the case of GPS antennas, I have designed them with various metallic structures surrounding the patch antenna to great effect. Some people would call this unseen connection between the patch component and the other metallic components "capacitive coupling", but it truly oversimplifies the nature of the connection.

In any case, bravo on the article and just keep in mind that you don't need electrical connections to add things to an antenna.
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kayb100 24th Jan 2011
me and my gf both just bought iphones, 3g 8gb. My girlfriends gps system works perfectly, we just went on a 5 hour complicated drive and the GPS system gave us turn by turn perfectly, the whole 5 hours and actually found us a better route. Iphone is 100% capable of giving a FULL GPS experience. HAVING SAID THAT, like i said, i also bought an iphone 3g, mine does not work, i have tried many apps, none of them work (the same as shes using too). All of her gps apps work perfectly, turn it on, its located in seconds, directions come up instantly. My iphone cannot even accurately locate my position on google maps, its usally a 1-2 km out. Very dissapointing. Its come to my attention that all the iphones are like that, some are working, some (exactly the same) are not, ask yours friends, some will say it works, others will say it doesnt. A complete mistory.

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