Is Firefox heading for a huge user decline?
Summary: An interesting question appeared on Quora the other day:Will Firefox have double-digit market share in 3 to 5 years? Seems like they are going to start to see massive erosion in share as Chrome/Safari and IE9 continue pushing forward.
An interesting question appeared on Quora the other day:
Will Firefox have double-digit market share in 3 to 5 years? Seems like they are going to start to see massive erosion in share as Chrome/Safari and IE9 continue pushing forward.
What's more interesting are the answers posted by Firefox co-founder Blake Ross and Mozilla CEO John Lilly.
This is what Ross had to say:
I’m pretty skeptical. I think the Mozilla Organization has gradually reverted back to its old ways of being too timid, passive and consensus-driven to release breakthrough products quickly.
Lilly was more upbeat:
I’m hardly an unbiased observer, but am confident that it will. Product is getting better all the time, and especially with 4.0 approaching in the fall. We’ve got 400M users and are growing that number. And we have a huge community of committed people around the world working on making it better. It’s more competitive than ever, but I feel pretty good about our chances, not only on the desktop, but also on Android, which is already looking good.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again, the five years ahead of Mozilla will be far tougher than the five years that's behind the company. While it's true that Firefox was born of a time when Internet Explorer dominated the browser market, Microsoft wasn't really an agile, nimble opponent. The company was (and in many ways, still is) a lumbering dinosaur with the turning circle of the Atlantic fleet. Firefox owes its current market share to being innovative and responsive to user needs at a time when Microsoft was still trying to dictate to users how they should use the web.
But times are a changing. First, there's Apple and its WebKit rendering engine which is not only making big gains on the desktop (in Chrome and Safari), but also on mobile platforms (for example the iPhone and Android, with Blackberry next on the cards). One place where WebKit isn't being used is in Firefox.
Then there's the hand-holding that Firefox has had from the Linux community. While Linux as an operating system still only has a tiny user share, these geeks have been very influential in increasing Firefox adoption at workplaces, schools, colleges and homes. But that might change, especially if Ubuntu kicks Firefox to the kerb in favor of Chromium in the Netbook Edition 10.10 release.
The problem facing Mozilla with Firefox is that the project itself has fallen foul of the very reason that Firefox came into existence - bloat.
The Firefox project began as an experimental branch of the Mozilla project by Dave Hyatt, Joe Hewitt and Blake Ross. They believed the commercial requirements of Netscape's sponsorship and developer-driven feature creep compromised the utility of the Mozilla browser. To combat what they saw as the Mozilla Suite's software bloat, they created a stand-alone browser, with which they intended to replace the Mozilla Suite.
Bottom line, Mozilla should focus on security, privacy, speed and standards and leave everything else plugins and extensions.
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RE: Is Firefox heading for a huge user decline?
RE: Is Firefox heading for a huge user decline?
You see IE through veil of hatred, and firefox with glasses of roses.
Veil of hatred? Hardly.
I am always modestly eager to try new versions of IE, but so far IE while it has some interesting things with accelerators and the likes, it just cannot compare speed wise with FireFox and Chrome.
RE: Is Firefox heading for a huge user decline?
RE: Is Firefox heading for a huge user decline?
Not with Chrome.
RE: Is Firefox heading for a huge user decline?
Yes, on one of my computers, FF 3.6 eats up HUGE amounts of CPU. Why not make two versions of FF: one "LEan 'n mean," the other "Feature-ful."
Nice try, wiseguy...
RE: Is Firefox heading for a huge user decline?
You're an example of why loads of users think IT geeks are elitist arseholes.
People don't want to have to faff around configuring their computers, they just want them to work.
Just saying.
CHrome? LOL! Surely, you jest!
I just uninstalled Opera for similar reasons, and nobody with any sense has used IE in a long time. That leaves Firefox.
RE: Is Firefox heading for a huge user decline?
RE: Is Firefox heading for a huge user decline?
RE: Is Firefox heading for a huge user decline?
You can write a browser that gets 100 and yet still can't surf most sites. Why? Because it's worthless.
RE: Is Firefox heading for a huge user decline?
I don't much like IE browsers but I would never write them off. IE6 hung on for a long long time because its IE and has the marketing of ms which will be true of all IE browsers. It is very hard for IE to decline because it is so intertwined with MS software. And because it has this huge share of the market, no developer would ever not test their product against IE. You would be a fool if you dismissed it unless you are not for profit. Best technical abilities does not = the most used product.
RE: Is Firefox heading for a huge user decline?
RE: Is Firefox heading for a huge user decline?
It's actually a good thing...
Version 3.6 gave me pause
I know there are "workarounds," but that's beside the point. It's like when Norton took their eye off the performance ball. It nearly cost them the company.
I understand features are "cool," and performance a pain, but you can't sacrifice performance for features - EVER - and expect to maintain market share - even if your product is free.
RE: Is Firefox heading for a huge user decline?
I experienced slowness/clunkyness with 3.6 too
I agree with Takalok. 3.5 was just fine, but 3.6 has issues. I experienced FF 3.6 problems on more than one computer.
I love my extensions, so I'm not going anywhere yet. If I were to start using a different browser on a regular basis, I'd probably use Opera predominantly.
RE: Is Firefox heading for a huge user decline?
What I said above is that there might be an extension incompatibility that causes the slowdown. Starting Firefox in Safe Mode only disables extensions temporarily. It's a way to test if the slowdown is caused by an extension or by Firefox itself. When you restart Firefox again, it will go back to the normal mode again, so nothing's lost.