Linus Torvalds F-bombs Nvidia over lack of Linux support

Linus Torvalds F-bombs Nvidia over lack of Linux support

Summary: Torvalds identifies Nvidia as "the single worst company we've ever dealt with".

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Linus Torvalds, the software engineer who became the chief architect of the Linux kernel, has hit out against graphics giant Nvidia for its lack of support for the Linux platform.

During a Q&A session at the Aalto University in Finland, Torvalds identifies Nvidia as "the single worst company we've ever dealt with" before unexpectedly turning to the camera and delivering an F-bomb complete with the middle finger gesture.

(Click here if you want to jump directly to the question that elicits the F-bomb response.)

Torvalds' frustration is worsened by the fact that Nvidia is unwilling to support Linux despite being a big player in the Android market with its Tegra line of ARM chips, especially given that Android is based on the Linux kernel.

While I agree -- and in many ways sympathize -- with Torvalds' point about Nvidia with regards to Linux support, I don't agree with the suggestion that any community is entitled to anything beyond what a company advertises as offering. We do have to bear in mind that Nvidia is under no obligation to do anything to help the Linux community, and any suggestion that Nvidia -- or any other company -- should play nicely with open source is based on nothing more than a feeling of entitlement.

Considering the overall size of the Linux desktop and notebook market share, it's a tiny drop in the ocean compared to Nvidia's other markets. It makes sense for Nvidia to embrace the Android market because it has found a way to make money from it, but it makes little sense for the company to sink R&D money into Linux on the desktop, no matter how many F-bombs Torvalds drops or how many times he flips the bird.

Image source: Aalto University/YouTube.

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Topics: Operating Systems, Linux, Open Source, Software

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  • Linus Torvalds F-bombs Nvidia over lack of Linux support

    Oh that was not very professional of Linus T. Maybe there is a reason Nvidia is not supporting linux, probably because no one is using it. Not to mention Nvidia has no obligations to support linux and if the linux community needs support that bad they can just code their own drivers. After all that is what open source is all about right? Now I have 2 more points to give people when they ask me about installing linux. 1. Its not a professional OS nor is its community as demonstrated 2. Its not supported by the major vendors.

    Better luck next time Linus.
    Loverock Davidson-
    • You already hated Linux

      You are always anti-Linux, always will be. What Linus did today did not change your opinion one iota. You are the opposite of "The Linux Geek" in every way.
      DonRupertBitByte
      • He had the chance to change my opinion

        But Linus T. goofed it up just like his OS. What he did today gives me all the more reason not to like linux and not to use it. It especially gives me a good statement to tell me people when they ask me about linux. I can confidently tell them that linux is not a good fit for them because its creator cannot be taken seriously. If Linus wants people to take his OS seriously then he should act serious and like a professional. That's just the way it is. Don't hate me, hate on linux.
        Loverock Davidson-
        • Linux is not an OS

          Lots of uninformed people posting here. Torvalds is responsible for the hardware-management layer of the Android OS (the kernel), which is also the kernel in the "Linux" OS. If nvidia, as a hardware company, wants their stuff to work on Android they need to work with the Linux kernel, plain and simple. They can use the linux kernel extensively in their business while being on antagonistic terms with the kernel developers, but it won't be to their advantage to do so (compared to just cooperating with the people whose software they are building parts to work with)
          cerewa@...
      • You won't change your mind

        You'll never change your mind. LD.
        Michael Alan Goff
      • RE: He had the chance to change my opinion

        Loverock Davidson- wrote:
        [i]If Linus wants people to take his OS seriously then he should act serious and like a professional.[/i]

        Very true. Linus should just throw a chair across the room the next time he considers an F-bomb.

        P.S. At least Linus' nickname isn't Monkey Boy.
        Rabid Howler Monkey
      • Adrian had his prissy upset

        Really Adrian...you're sense of humor is sorely lacking, AND you hate Linux. So go suck up...
        Transdermal
      • stuck in a box.

        he will not understand what you are trying to say.
        itchy8me
    • Exactly

      That's exactly what they're trying to do. Write their own drivers. Did you miss something?
      KaalvoetNinja
      • I didn't miss anything

        Linus is having a tantrum because Nvidia doesn't want to support his OS. I can't blame them, I wouldn't want to deal with him either when he acts like this.
        Loverock Davidson-
        • Re:

          Hey, at least Linus doesn't act like Steve Balmer. I mean, if Linus started throwing chairs and jumping around like a monkey on a regular basis, I might never use Linux. Maybe that is why I don't use Windows.

          Linus's point IS NOT that nVidia doesn't support Linux, his point is that by their own doing have be come one of the largest suppliers of hardware for Linux (in a market where Linux is a dominate product thus worth the effort nVidia would put forth) and offer up half-baked support for those products.
          itachisxeyes
          • Nvidia doesn't deal with Balmer

            They deal with one or a number of his minions. The minions keep Nvidia happy if that's really needed.

            Then again, Nvidia knows where their money comes from. Let's see, Linux is free, Microsoft pays.

            maybe there's a lesson to be learned here.
            Cynical99
        • you do not understand..

          what this is all about do you..? we do not give one flying BEEP as to what you think. The philosophy behind linux and open source software is what matters. and like linus says : it is organic.. it will just keep growing.

          If you where a true engineer, you might have known that. Truly your heart is not on fire for discovery and enjoyment of technology, using such to move mankind forward.. ,instead of holding it back because of greed and a fear to lose that which you BELIEVE you control.., wake up man!
          itchy8me
    • Agree

      Linus' still a kid in adults' vests.
      Rikkrdo
    • I'm with you on Linus T.

      The guy is a Jack Wagon when it comes down to it, attacking anything that isn't open source and is very successful, namely Microsoft and Apple. OTOH, I wouldn't want a Windows web server or a Windows IMAP/POP/SMTP server in the back office, or a Windows-based VPN server, or a Windows-based network firewall solution; too many vulnerabilities on the desktop are found, and the greater majority of those work on Server 2003/2008/R2.
      Champ_Kind
    • let's see your kernel

      I'd like to see your kernel, it must be better than anything IBM Microsoft or Apple has put out. Please share your superior coding efforts with the world,

      I'd say you owe it to humanity, but I really don't believe in coerced 'contractual arrangements.' I'd prefer you volunteer the tens of thousands of hours of your labor necessary, the way Linus does, even though his efforts all fall short of your standards.
      pgit
      • I'm not a coder

        I don't have a kernel.
        Loverock Davidson-
        • Re:

          So, how do you use your computer? Is it like one of those old things from the 50s and 60s, you know, they take up a whole room and run punch cards instead of software?

          You should upgrade to a system that actually can run an operating system and has a kernel. Anything really would be better then your kernel-less antique. Trust me, everyone is using a kernel these days.
          itachisxeyes
          • One need not be a coder to know a computer

            Shows narrowness of mind in the community if you believe that.
            Cynical99
    • Why do you use Linux everyday then?

      If you use Google, Facebook, Yahoo, LinkedIn, Wikipedia, PayPal, EBay, Amazon, Craigslist, ..... you are using Linux (not-a-professional-OS) everyday. May be you just stay with msn and Bing.

      You certainly are a very knowledgeable person!
      patt1