Microsoft to charge customers $99 to remove OEM 'crapware'
Summary: So, the OEMs make money from installing crapware onto PCs, and now Microsoft is making money removing it. Makes you realize why more and more people are buying Apple hardware.
Will people be willing to pay Microsoft to remove the crapware that the OEMs install on new PCs? Microsoft thinks they will.
For around two and a half years, Microsoft has been offering what it calls Signature editions of certain PCs. According to Microsoft, these PCs give you faster and easier access to "the applications you want right away without getting sidetracked talking to trialware or other sample software".
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In other words, when you boot up your new PC, instead of having to deal with a blizzard of pop-ups and dialog boxes related to trialware and demo software -- collectively known as crapware -- the system boots to a clean Windows desktop.
Microsoft even offers up numbers to show how detrimental this OEM-installed crapware is to your system. Microsoft claims that Signature systems start up 39 percent faster, go into sleep mode 23 percent faster, and resume from sleep a whopping 51 percent faster compared to their crapware-ladened counterparts.
So far, Signature has been limited to new PCs. But now, Microsoft will offer customers the opportunity to give their Windows 7 PC the Signature treatment by bringing it to a Microsoft Store and paying $99, according to the Wall Street Journal.
"Microsoft also offers a program that, for $99, will turn users' Windows 7 PCs into Signature versions, if the owner brings the computer into one of its 16 stores, due to grow to 21 outlets in coming months," writes Mossberg. "All Signature computers come with 90 days of free phone support, as well as help at the stores' 'Answer Desks,' which are like the Genius Bars at Apple stores."
Mossberg has been testing three Signature models and comparing them with the same machines as sold elsewhere without the Signature modifications and reports that the Signature versions are much cleaner, easier to navigate, and faster in a variety of tests.
So, is the Signature treatment worth $99? According to Mossberg, it is.
"In my opinion, although it may generally benefit Microsoft at the expense of the hardware maker, it also makes for a better experience for the user."
This is where I have to disagree with Mossberg. This isn't an example of Microsoft benefiting at the expense of the hardware makers, it's Microsoft benefiting at the expense of consumers. The hardware makers have already been paid to install the crapware.
Let's follow the money. The OEMs are paid by a variety of software makers to install crapware onto systems. The OEMs don't disclose how much money they receive from this, but sources tell me that it works out at a few dollars per PC. That doesn't sound like much, but multiply that across millions of PCs and it becomes a significant number.
Then the customer pays the OEM -- or a middleman -- for the PC, a PC which Microsoft itself admits is "slower-than-should-be" because of all the stuff loaded onto the system unnecessarily. Consumers are expected to take their new PC to a Microsoft Store -- though there are currently only 16 of them in the United States -- and pay Microsoft $99 to remove the crapware that the OEMs were paid to install.
It could only be worse if the OEMs wanted payment to remove crapware. Think that wouldn't happen? It's already been tried. Back in 2008, Sony announced plans to charge customers $50 for what it called "Fresh Start" systems that were free of crapware. The plans were dropped following a barrage of negative feedback.
The OEMs make money from installing crapware onto PCs, and now Microsoft is making money removing it. Makes you realize why more and more people are buying Apple hardware.
Most of you probably already know that you can remove a lot of the preinstalled crapware from PCs using PC Decrapifier. It won't give you the nice Signature edition desktop wallpaper, and won't install pretty much every piece of Windows Live software ever made onto your PC -- like Microsoft seems to do on Signature editions PCs -- but it will remove most of the crapware that you find on new PCs. And the best part is it won't cost you $99. In fact, it won't cost you anything, because it's free for personal use.
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Talkback
What a bunch of crap
Agree 100%
$99 seems a bit excessive if they are only walking people through control panel to remove programs. In my side business I charge $50 for a tune up service where I remove all the [b]crAp[/b]plications like tool bars and trial software and I also run all updates and often use something like CCleaner to get rid of temp files and old unnecessary data and registry entries.
I'd say instead of paying Microsoft $99 support your local geek. I know some may feel Microsoft should provide this service for free but they are not the ones that crappified the PC in the first place. It is amazing how a computer operates so much better once it has been decrappified though.
You know that will never fly.
Right, JJF
Yet when they do force OEM's to do it their way, the same people are all over them for [b]forcing OEM's to do things "Microsoft's Way".[/b]
And I agree with you about who decides what's crapware. So many people, Apple users included think that Safari is crap. So are they really getting a crap free computer, or not?
So why am I forced to sit there and clean their crap off of people's OS X based machines?
RE: Who's the final judge as to what's crapware?
As far as Microsoft paying OEMs to clean PCs I think that is kind of what the whole Signature Edition PCs is about. You pay a little more for a PC without all those [b]crAp[/b]plications preinstalled.
In my opinion I think consumers should demand a better option so that they can either run a restore without the extras they do not want or make it an option in set up. I actually have seen some signs of this happening as a few of the last OEM PCs I have set up did ask questions about enabling certain software and if you said no the software was sometimes not there.
necessary vs expected components
Does Adobe Acrobat Reader fall into this slop bucket? There's an argument it does, but a PDF reader has become a very basic tool, especially for new PCs with on-disk manuals in PDF format.
Then there's Windows Live Mail. What ISPs don't provide browser e-mail portals these days? If you have IE or another browser, do you need a mail client?
Can't OEMs offer their own 'Performance' packages, meaning including no 'extras' and charge more for it than they'd get per unit for it? I suppose their contracts with app makers require OEMs to install the apps on all units. Pity.
ccleaner, yumm
Can a user get generic install media or files ...
Personally I've been spoiled with an MSDN subscription for so long I don't think about these things much but I have had to wipe crapware from a few laptops (by starting with a clean install).
Decrappifying a computer is still not the same as
As to who's to judge what is and isn't crapware, that should be the user. Basically crapware is unwanted software that is installed without the users consent and that does include IE and WMP if the user doesn't want it. Before MS integrated IE with the OS, it was installed without consent by being bundled with many other products. Then MS payed OEMs to install it just like the other crapware (of which Netscape if pre-installed was one). Then it was bundled with Win95 rev. C but you could CTRL+ALT+DEL before agreeing to the license agreement and kill the install task if you knew what to do.
I know its a pain, but no software should be pre-installed if it can't be uninstalled cleanly (and most can't). Vendors are payed to put most of this crapware on or they consider it "value added software" but if the user doesn't want it it's crapware.
MS is legally forbidden to control what OEMs do to Windows
PCdecrapifier
http://www.pcdecrapifier.com/
Re: Or, just download this free app and use it:
Will try it later.
Their "DeCrap-list" looks alright though.
OEMs get paid to include CRAPWARE ...
Only for those with no knowledge whatsoever
No purchase necessary
Yeah like that works...NOT
@dcsos
It's simple, painless, and easy to do. Takes about 5 minutes.
That's why you don't use a retail disc for it
Can cut both ways
[i]Anyone with any sense would opt to just straight up buy a copy of Windows than pay for someone to "decrapify" your computer. [/i]
And then reinstall everything from scratch, to include drivers, certain OEM + VAR packages, preinstalled applications + utilities, etc. Not so sure about that.
Not saying that isn't a viable avenue, it is. Only building everything from a virgin base isn't an easy way out either, not from start to finish. And keep in mind, a simple OS repair install isn't going to decrapify a unit, and a clean install requires a reformat and complete system rebuilding. For most that means good bye weekend ... and beyond. :(
Goodbye weekend...and beyond?
I reinstalled 7 SP1 Home Premium on an OEM laptop using a borrowed SP1 integrated OEM Media, used the Product Key on the COA sticker affixed to the laptop--a robocall to MS activated no problem, then reinstalled everything--drivers, updates, programs (all freeware) documents, pictures...etc. It took about 7-8 hours total spread over 2 days at a cost of $0.00...priceless! After a few days to make sure all was well I made a full backup image which took a couple of hours more.
The system now runs faster & more reliably IMHO. YMMV