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Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

Microsoft's unanswered Windows 8 challenge - Legacy applications

By | June 2, 2011, 4:53am PDT

Summary: Microsoft has begun given us the first official ’sneak peek’ at it’s upcoming Windows 8 operating system, and what we’re being shown is a Windows operating system like none we’ve seen before.

Microsoft has begun given us the first official ’sneak peek’ at it’s upcoming Windows 8 operating system, and what we’re being shown is a Windows operating system like none we’ve seen before.

What we’re seeing for the first time from Microsoft is a version of Windows that isn’t specifically targeted to the desktop, instead the Redmond giant seems to be gambling on making changes to the operating system that are tablet specific. The touch interface looks very different to what we expect of Windows. In fact, it looks more like Windows Phone than Windows.

Tiles, tiles everywhere!

Here’s a touch-optimized Internet Explorer 10 in action.

Here’s a thumb-operated keyboard that’s designed to make tablet use easier.

Here are new Windows 8 apps coexisting with legacy applications:

The Ribbon UI, previously seen in Office applications, makes its way to Windows 8:

Here’s a Twitter client with on-screen keyboard:

Here’s the gist of what Windows 8 brings:

  • Fast launching of apps from a tile-based Start screen
  • Tiles feature live notifications
  • Fast switching between apps
  • Easy snap/resize ability to allow for multiple apps to be on the screen at one time
  • An app store
  • Touch-optimized browsing

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Adrian Kingsley-Hughes is an internationally published technology author who has devoted over a decade to helping users get the most from technology.

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Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

Adrian Kingsley-Hughes is an internationally published technology author who has devoted over a decade to helping users get the most from technology -- whether that be by learning to program, building a PC from a pile of parts, or helping them get the most from their new MP3 player or digital camera.

Adrian has authored/co-authored technical books on a variety of topics, ranging from programming to building and maintaining PCs. His most recent books include "Build the Ultimate Custom PC", "Beginning Programming" and "The PC Doctor's Fix It Yourself Guide". He has also written training manuals that have been used by a number of Fortune 500 companies.

Adrian also runs a popular blog under the name The PC Doctor, where he covers a range of computer-related topics -- from security to repairing and upgrading.

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  • RE: Microsoft's unanswered Windows 8 challenge - Legacy applications
    I couldn't agree more. I think Microsoft have forgotten that there are more "PCs" than iPads out there. Or seem to have reached the illogical conclusion that there will be more iPads than PCs.

    I worry the baby has gone with the bathwater.

    The idea of running this on a 30" panel with keyboard and mouse fills me with dread. It looks like a "cartoon computer".
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    jeremychappell
    2nd Jun
  • If you have to do more than just read it .....
    @jeremychappell
    ....these toys are not for you. It's like complaining that a sports car can't haul your furniture!
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    kd5auq
    2nd Jun
  • IDC/Dataquest already predicted that there will be more ipads than PCs by
    @kd5auq: ... 2016; but not in 2012 yet, and power users will use their 24-30" screens much longer than even 2016 anyway.
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    DeRSSS
    2nd Jun
  • RE: Microsoft's unanswered Windows 8 challenge - Legacy applications
    @kd5auq
    Love my 24" display; my truck rocks, why not make a sport touchpad as a control unit for remote desktop interface... to the desktop in front of me and set it next to my trackball. This would make file sync easier too. Now I can see running my desktop power from a touchpad from anywhere.
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    Jonah49
    3rd Jun
  • RE: Microsoft's unanswered Windows 8 challenge - Legacy applications
    @jeremychappell
    Ah, but Steve Jobs told us this is the post-PC era! happy
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    A.Sinic
    2nd Jun
  • The Windows 7 UI is still there
    @ jeremychappell

    I really don't understand your complaint at all. The baby can't have gone with the bathwater because nothing from Windows 7 is gone. The Windows 7 UI is still there, and once you start a Windows 7 app, the Aero UI loads/appears. If you've watched the videos, you must realise this.

    I could easily see myself preferring this new UI, even on a desktop/laptop, provided the keyboard navigation is good and it's customisable (e.g. to get rid of the purple borders, change the number and layout of tiles for my screen size, etc.). I prefer my apps to use the full screen area (usually split for multiple apps), with a 'start screen' instead of Task bar and Start Menu. Nevertheless, if you're wedded to the old Windows 7 UI, it isn't going to go away.
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    WilErz
    3rd Jun
  • RE: Microsoft's unanswered Windows 8 challenge - Legacy applications
    Hmmm.. you can switch off the touch view instantaneously and all the x86 versions of windows 8 will support all legacy applications.. Where is the problem for ordinary pcs/laptops..?

    And you missed an important point of arm incompatibility. Any application developed with new platform can be deployed in all forms of devices - that means all programs written for windows 8 immediately becomes tablet compatible..
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    rstheboss
    2nd Jun
  • RE: Microsoft's unanswered Windows 8 challenge - Legacy applications
    No question about it IMO Microsoft want to avoid Android being the market leading OS for Tablets as it appears to be for smart phones currently. I think it is early days yet but Windows 8 looks promising to me.

    Frankly I think Microsoft have little choice. Windows solely as a desktop OS does not appear to be enough now. Apple are raking in millions with iPad sales. Microsoft want a share of that.

    While tablet usage is growing...how many of us are ready to stop using a desktop completely? Yet Microsoft have to act now to get on board with tablets with a decent tablet friendly OS. They may be too late already but releasing W8 as a pure desktop OS would have been a terrible idea.

    I think the colour "purple" can be changed on the interface (I hope) happy

    W8 appears to be a pretty good effort considering the unenviable task Microsoft has trying to provide design consistency across Mobiles, Tablets and desktops. As a dominant player in the desktop OS sphere for so long...suddenly Microsoft might be playing catch up in the new Tablet OS focused future. W8 I think is an attempt to lose as little as possible OS market share. But I don't see Microsoft dominating the Tablet space.

    Google in a strange way already have a huge head start with Android on mobiles. The transition for Android mobile users to Android Tablets / Chrome Books will likely be much easier than a Windows 7 (or earlier) desktop OS user trying to decide between an iPad, W8 tablet or Android tablet.

    Microsoft IMO will not dominate the OS landscape of the future on Tablets and ever more powerful mobile devices. Not even if a rumoured billion 19Billion dollar deal for Nokia's phone business is to be believed.

    Microsoft will remain a major player but not the main (OS) event IMO.
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    FLWR
    2nd Jun
  • M$ windoze is DOA
    thanks to Android and M$ incompetence.
    GPL and OSS innovations killed windoze.
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    Linux Geek
    2nd Jun
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    Mr. Dee
    2nd Jun
  • Billions of $$$ doesn't mean dead.
    XBox probably made more money for them than did all pure play open source software sales combined.

    Windows is long from being dead.

    Right now, on the desktop, I seriously doubt MS is worried about linux. Apple, yes but Linux no.
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    DevGuy_z
    2nd Jun
  • RE: Microsoft's unanswered Windows 8 challenge - Legacy applications
    @DevGuy_z
    Apple iPad made Linux look very dated. Win8 seems to have gone even further. It was hard enough to encourage Linux desktop adoption before; this will make it virtually impossible.
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    A.Sinic
    2nd Jun
  • There are some pretty huge assumptions here.
    First, you assume MS will have only one interface. I think that's a silly assumption.

    Touch on a traditional desktop/laptop without touch hardware? Really? (laughing) No, the touch interface will be an additional one, much as the accessibility features are.

    Second, given Visual Studio it should be straight-forward for applications to be modeled against their targets. That means you can create the application and abstract its interface, using either touch (for applications needing limited interactivity) or keyboard/mouse (for heavy input applications). MS has been aiming for UI abstraction for years now, considering their web and WPF stuff.

    Likewise cross compilation for ARM processors (or any other processor) won't be that big a deal for *developers*, always keeping in mind most ARM devices are pathetic when it comes to horsepower. Windows 8 will do all the heavy lifting. That's what an OS is *for*, after all how many developers today have to worry about physical allocation of blocks on the disk drive, hmm?

    Conceptually Windows 8 shouldn't be that big a deal. Of course if you want to run Autocad on a *phone*... (evil grin)
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    wolf_z
    2nd Jun
  • Immersive Interface is not the only interface
    There is a tablet optimized interface as well as the standard interface.

    Apple and Open Source solutions create abandonware on a fairly regular basis. Apple ditched its hardware platform multiple times in the last decade, leaving its legacy customers with obsolete software and hardware. Open Source packages like Open Office and others end up abandoned by the consortiums that lead them due to sponsor company restructuring, disinterest by the lead developer, arrested for murdering his wife and a host of other reasons.

    As the market leader, Microsoft does not have the luxury afforded open source and Apple to simply deprecate its legacy software to abandonware. Microsoft has an responsibility and a duty to not only continue to innovate and lead, but to support the industries on which its innovation and leadership are based on.
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    facebook@...
    2nd Jun
  • The Ribbon UI is a nightmare
    "The Ribbon UI, previously seen in Office applications, makes its way to Windows 8."

    Just what I need. A UI that is cumbersome and ugly. Thanks a lot Microsoft.
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    sismoc
    2nd Jun

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