No Windows Phone 7 for Nokia ... no, really ...
Summary: Yes, you read that right. Nokia won't be implementing Microsoft Windows Phone 7 platform on handsets.
Yes, you read that right. Nokia won't be implementing Microsoft Windows Phone 7 platform on handsets.
But wait? What was that announcement all about the other day? Didn't we see Nokia CEO Elop and Microsoft CEO Ballmer on stage talking about Windows Phone?
Sure you did. But if you paid close attention to the Nokia/Microsoft pow-wow you'd have realized that at no time did either company mention "Windows Phone 7," only 'Windows Phone." I noticed this at the time, and as The Guardian's Charles Arthur said, it's critical:
Though the difference between Windows Phone 7 and Windows Phone may sound trivial, Elop, who previously ran the hugely profitable Office division of Microsoft, will have been keenly aware of the importance of the difference in naming and the need not to be seen at any future date to have misled investors, analysts or customers.
And that's a key difference. See, Windows Phone 7 is shipping right now, on dozens of handsets across a variety of vendors. But Microsoft is planning an update to the platform called Mango which might see the platform being rebranded as Windows Phone 7.5. But Mango is some way off, fall at the earliest. This means that Nokia handsets powered by Windows Phone 7.5 (we'll call it that for now ...) might arrive towards the end of the year, or maybe early 2012.
So ... Nokia's announced that it is making Windows Phone its primary smartphone platform, and Symbian being relegated to second place, what's Nokia going to sell for the remainder of 2011? Sure, sales of Symbian handsets won't wither and die overnight, but given this announcement they're unlikely to be stellar either. If I were an investor, I'd want some some clarity as to what Nokia will be doing over the next six to 12 months.
Windows Phone might be a good long-term gamble for Nokia, but in the short-term it have quite an adverse effect on revenue.
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RE: No Windows Phone 7 for Nokia ... no, really ...
My guess would be they are shooting for an actual Nokia brand of WP7 that is app compatible with the "main" branch.
So did MS...
Others may stick crowded android phone market
any advantage for that?
RE: No Windows Phone 7 for Nokia ... no, really ...
AKH doesn't have a clue about. The thing is there is no fragmentation. http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2380424,00.asp
>>"Will there be new ways that Nokia and other OEMs can differentiate and build some uniqueness to their offerings? Yes. Will the UI on those products still obviously be the Windows Phone UI, and will the platform APIs be consistent? Yes," he said.
AKH conveniently ignored it and twisted it. Only thing is Nokia can sell their location based services to other WP7 vendors and monitize it.
RE: No Windows Phone 7 for Nokia ... no, really ...
RE: No Windows Phone 7 for Nokia ... no, really ...
RE: No Windows Phone 7 for Nokia ... no, really ...
See the slide
In his slide, he clearly think the announcement will have no impact on Symbian sales, a smooth transition from one to the other, as though people buy whatever 'Nokia' is selling....
I disagree, I bought an E7 as a development platform, I've sent it back for store credit now.
My expectation was that he's get the development house in order, not that he'd farm that out to a company with < $50m revenue from selling phone software.
RE: No Windows Phone 7 for Nokia ... no, really ...
Yes they can, and lose BIG
The are betting the farm on WP7 or whatever version. It will take them time to transition, and Symbian sales may tank prematurely due to the platform being abandoned.
The success of WPwhatever is NOT guaranteed. This is two desperate companies cooperating. The whole thing could crash and burn.
Should they bet the farm on Symbian
Meego?
Tell me which you think would have been better? The declining OS, the OS that isn't on a single device, or the one that is on the rise?
Hardly the point
LD said "Nokia can't lose".
When you have run the company into the ditch, ALL options may carry a high risk. Historically, MS screws their partners eventually. Time will tell.
Think, McFly, think ...
This is definitely a situation where both Nokia and Microsoft can lose and in a big way. The best way forward for both companies is together.
RE: No Windows Phone 7 for Nokia ... no, really ...
If Nokia does the right thing and introduces both high-end leading-edge devices along with smaller, cheaper devices for the colossal market that is currently getting-by with low-end feature phones, then they could be onto a VERY good thing indeed.
RE: No Windows Phone 7 for Nokia ... no, really ...
RE: No Windows Phone 7 for Nokia ... no, really ...
They are aligning because they want to see it grow. Its different and stands out from whats currently out there.
RE: No Windows Phone 7 for Nokia ... no, really ...
RE: No Windows Phone 7 for Nokia ... no, really ...
RE: No Windows Phone 7 for Nokia ... no, really ...
Patience, give it time.
RE: No Windows Phone 7 for Nokia ... no, really ...