Steve Jobs: Microsoft is 'mostly irrelevant'

Steve Jobs: Microsoft is 'mostly irrelevant'

Summary: Jobs thought Microsoft wouldn't change as long as Ballmer was in charge.

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Steve Jobs' biography doesn't pull any punches when it comes to Microsoft and is CEO Steve Ballmer.

The New York Times has posted an excerpt which makes it pretty clear what Jobs thought of Microsoft and its CEO:

"In the final pages of the book, written in Mr. Jobs's own words, he described Microsoft as "mostly irrelevant" and said companies like it often ran aground when they were run by salespeople. He singled out Apple's former chief executive, John Sculley, and Microsoft's chief executive, Steve Ballmer, as examples, adding that he didn't think Microsoft would change as long as Ballmer was in charge."

Jobs also told President Obama that he would be a one-term president, that Google copied the iPhone and that he would spend his "last dying breath" and all of Apple's cash to "right this wrong," that Intels' mobile chips were "just really slow," and that he he wasn't a fan of Fox News and thought it hurt the country.

Steve Jobs: The Exclusive Biography by Walter Isaacson goes on sale Monday.

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  • RE: Steve Jobs: Microsoft is 'mostly irrelevant'

    Irrelevant? Hardly, and Microsoft has changed a lot since 2000.
    The one and only, Cylon Centurion
    • RE: Steve Jobs: Microsoft is 'mostly irrelevant'

      @Cylon Centurion To be fair, though, MS hasn't driven change in the PC market (their largest) for a long time now.

      They have some important new technologies for enterprise, like Sharepoint, which have huge adoption but which few people seem to actually like. They changed interfaces for their office suite.

      About the only place MS has changed markets is the XBox. The 360 is quite old now (2005 release) and still limited to 720p for most games, owing to the older hardware. I'm not a gamer, so I don't follow console news, but a quick search suggests that the XBox 720 won't be released until late 2013 or early 2014. That seems like an awfully long product cycle, even though I still use my PS2. It feels like the days MS couldn't seem to get Longhorn out the door.
      daengbo
      • RE: Steve Jobs: Microsoft is 'mostly irrelevant'

        @daengbo
        AllenT_z
      • RE: Steve Jobs: Microsoft is 'mostly irrelevant'

        @daengbo

        The XBox was designed for long term use. But otherwise, I agree. As a gamer myself, the XBox is holding everyone back. PC gamers included, as most PC games are console ports. Meaning we're still getting DirectX 9 garbage.
        The one and only, Cylon Centurion
    • RE: Steve Jobs: Microsoft is 'mostly irrelevant'

      @Cylon Centurion
      Hmmm. I doubt that (PS, I know Steve Jobs was arrogant) he would have said that. I am doubting the credentials of the author of that bio and I never had high opinion on media anytime. Everyone is trying to make big $, and this is the time for them to leech as much as they could on a dead horse. Because after a year, World moves on and nobody (except family and friends) would really remember what SJ said or how he had behaved. Look at the timing the Author and Publisher are releasing the Bio and the media is spilling the contents of it piece by piece. Everybody wants to polorize stuff and milk money on it. Did Steve Jobs really said that, I won't doubt, but the context, I am not sure. These guys are just trying to milk every possible thing and world knows that SJ was arrogant and also they knew he himself was a great sales guy. I doubt the author's credentials, because he is releasing it after Steve's death, not before his, if it were before his death, Steve at least would have chance to correct it by clearing the context.
      Ram U
      • RE: Steve Jobs: Microsoft is 'mostly irrelevant'

        @Rama.NET

        If he did, it was out of spite. I have a feeling Jobs would have killed to have the market reach Microsoft does with Windows and Office.
        The one and only, Cylon Centurion
      • RE: Steve Jobs: Microsoft is 'mostly irrelevant'

        @Cylon Centurion
        I totally agree to that.
        Ram U
      • RE: Steve Jobs: Microsoft is 'mostly irrelevant'

        [i]If he did, it was out of spite. I have a feeling Jobs would have killed to have the market reach Microsoft does with Windows and Office.[/i]

        Oh yes, I'm sure he'd like to wind up on the Justice Department's radar. Everybody wants that.
        ScorpioBlue
      • I wonder if the animosity existed because

        @Rama.NET
        here is a man who his entire life traveled to the top as well as his rivals. Yes, they have complex relationships, but in the end, as successful as Apple finaly became, Steve Jobs still knew his life was coming to an end in a matter of months, while his rivals continue to live on.

        Counting your time left in a matter of months has to be the scariest thing we'll ever encounter, and I wonder how bitter and jealous that could make someone towards others not dealing with that?
        William Farrell
      • RE: Steve Jobs: Microsoft is 'mostly irrelevant'

        @Rama.NET I just don't understand how any of these comments make any contribution to anything, except to lower the useless pressure within the originator.
        dmcgarigle@...
  • RE: Steve Jobs: Microsoft is 'mostly irrelevant'

    Steve Jobs was wrong about Microsoft. Microsoft is a major cloud provider, still sells the #1 OS and gaming platform, and a major player on mobile platforms. But that's ok, its his opinion and he was entitled to have one.
    LoverockDavidson_-24231404894599612871915491754222
    • RE: Steve Jobs: Microsoft is 'mostly irrelevant'

      @LoverockDavidson_

      They laughed at iPhone
      They laughed at iPad
      They laughed at iPod

      Ballmer = NO BRAINSSSSSSSSSSSSS
      ZombieSteveJobs
      • RE: Steve Jobs: Microsoft is 'mostly irrelevant'

        @ZombieSteveJobs When Jobs laughs at Microsoft, he has Brain/s ? :-)
        animageofmine1
      • RE: Steve Jobs: Microsoft is 'mostly irrelevant'

        @ZombieSteveJobs
        Jobs is dead so he has no brains.
        imsimsj
      • RE: Steve Jobs: Microsoft is 'mostly irrelevant'

        @ZombieSteveJobs agree with you. He even said Android will be a failure. Now where's Android and where's Windows Phone LOL
        shellcodes_coder
    • RE: Steve Jobs: Microsoft is 'mostly irrelevant'

      @LoverockDavidson_

      He is not alone in this assertion. Google's CEO recently listed the 4 companies that were the movers and shakers in the new order.
      - Google
      - Apple
      - Amazon
      - Fast Book

      He did point out that MS has a lot of legacy products in the corporate world which will produce income for some time but that they where just not a player in the new order.
      KBabcock75
  • RE: Steve Jobs: Microsoft is 'mostly irrelevant'

    Other than his latter point about Fox, I think his famed arrogance is clearly on display here.

    Respect him for the change he stirred up, but don't think of him as a saint - he was VERY far from.
    bitcrazed
    • What point did he make about FOX?

      So, when Jobs makes a point that you agree with, only then is Jobs correct?
      adornoe
  • RE: Steve Jobs: Microsoft is 'mostly irrelevant'

    Say what you want about Steve Jobs, he said some great things, did some great things...but the guy could really be a jerk.

    Whether you love him or hate him, this books is going to sell MILLIONS of copies...no doubt in my mind.
    comconcepts
    • But it also proves

      @comconcepts People have opinions...some are more informed than others...and Jobs' opinion on things is little different from anyone else's opinion. Nothing really interesting here.
      otaddy