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Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

The problem with $99 Android tablets - they suck!

By | January 8, 2012, 10:01am PST

Summary: There’s a lot of cheap and nasty junk out there - Don’t fall into the trap!

CNet’s Donald Bell makes some interesting points about the Android Honeycomb OS, but it is comments on price that caught my attention.

Here’s the point that Bell made about price that caught my attention:

If we’re to hold up the Kindle Fire as the first genuine Android tablet success story, I think it’s too easy to say that price is what put it on top. There are other $199 tablets out there. Hell, there are $99 tablets out there.

Yes, there are $99 Android tablets out there. But guess what? They’re junk! CNet’s own rating system classes them as such. Here’s the $199 Velocity Micro Cruz T408:

And here’s the $110 Maylong Universe M-150:

Our very own Jason Perlow got his hands on a Maylong M-150 and branded it an “awful piece of junk.

Maylong M-150 $99 Android Tablet from Walgreens from Off The Broiler on Vimeo.

What Amazon did with the Kindle Fire is make good, solid, reliable tablet for $199. There’s a big gulf between some no-name brand generic Android tablet and the Kindle Fire. People know the Kindle brand, and they sure know the Amazon brand.

The trick isn’t to make a cheap product, it’s to make a good value product. Amazon knew the difference between the two. The no-name makers didn’t.

This is why the Kindle Fire was a hit, and it’s also why you might not have heard of the other two tablets.

There’s a lot of cheap and nasty junk out there produced with one goal in mind - suckering people into buying something that vaguely looks like an iPad, only built so cheap as to be utterly useless. Don’t fall into the trap!

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Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

Adrian Kingsley-Hughes is an internationally published technology author who has devoted over a decade to helping users get the most from technology -- whether that be by learning to program, building a PC from a pile of parts, or helping them get the most from their new MP3 player or digital camera.

Adrian has authored/co-authored technical books on a variety of topics, ranging from programming to building and maintaining PCs. His most recent books include "Build the Ultimate Custom PC", "Beginning Programming" and "The PC Doctor's Fix It Yourself Guide". He has also written training manuals that have been used by a number of Fortune 500 companies.

Adrian also runs a popular blog under the name The PC Doctor, where he covers a range of computer-related topics -- from security to repairing and upgrading.

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Nook no better at 3x the price
jelabarre 31st Jan
You want to talk about suckage? The Nook Tablet may have better hardware, but as a "tablet", it is very much a *fraud* in naming. B&N has managed to lock that P.o.S. down so much you can't run anything not found on their severely useless app store. For what little they actually have there (far less than what you can get on the standard Android app-stores) the miniscule selection is generally priced 2-3x what the same app sells for elsewhere (or they decide to charge for something that is free everyplace else), and/or are exceedingly amateurish and useless in design/coding. The NT is a grossly-overpriced e-reader: you could get the same functionality in a $79 monochrome ereader (or a used Palm Zire, if you're trying to do non-reading functions).
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It is the eco-system.
Bruizer 8th Jan
Amazon gets this. Apple gets this. Samsung is starting to see this.
@Bruizer

I've actually used the Maylong M-150 above. It's more than the ecosystem, although the ecosystem is very important. But if the iPad had the same user experience as the Maylong M-150, even the best ecosystem around it wouldn't save it from failing abysmally.
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Kindle Fire is heavily subsidized
toddybottom 8th Jan
@Bruizer
Here is the difference between the 3 companies:
Apple: makes huge profits on hardware, large profits on content
Amazon: loses money on hardware, huge profits on content
Samsung: loses money on hardware, no profits on content

One of these companies is going to leave the tablet market within the next 2 years.

As for those $99 tablets, it isn't that they don't "get it", it is that they have to cut so many corners to make a few cents on each sale that the end result is a really bad tablet. The problem is that Apple gets all of its parts drastically cheaper than any other company can get their parts because Apple has an unprecedented amount of purchasing power (called a monopsony). If anyone else tried to make a high quality tablet approaching the iPad, it would cost them $500. They would have to price it higher to make a profit but why would you buy a tablet for more than $500 if it wasn't an iPad? You would be stupid to do that.

We will not see any real competition in the tablet market for 20 years. Apple is too strong and powerful and will leverage its various monopolies and monopsonies to stop competitors from joining the market (called "barriers to entry").

It is a sick market. We all lose.
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get a new song
oneleft 8th Jan
@toddybottom
to sing or at least take a frickin day off. you've combined the ultimate no no's. you're predictable AND boring.
@toddybottom Did you miss the article showing Samsung made 4.5 Billion off of Android? Or how about the fact that Samsung has both Music and Movies that they actually sell?
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@toddybottom The problem is that Apple gets all of its parts drastically cheaper than any other company can get their parts because Apple has an unprecedented amount of purchasing power (called a monopsony).

And yet Apple gets the majority of their parts from Samsung.
@Bruizer Why do you thInk they don't get it? Seriously, are you blind to the fact that Google launched Books and Movies with Honeycomb? Or the fact that they're trying to get their music store off the ground?

Everyone knows that the strength of Apple is now and has always been iTunes! Without the Content provided by them and largely through iTunes.
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I can get Vizio 8 at Costco for $189. I see the Lenovo Ideapad A1 advertised on slickdeals.net for $199 all the time.

Both of these are true Android tablets, not proprietary eReaders, that have limited functionality.
@walterbyrd@...

I've played with the Vizio at Walmart and wasn't too impressed. But if I know anything about Lenovo, i suspect that the A1 is probably a nice little Gingerbread tablet. And as the owner of a different, but still nice Gingerbread tablet (HTC Flyer) I can say that these can be very nice, useful machines. Gingerbread works just fine for the 7" form factor, an dI have no regrets about buying my Flyer.
kindle fire sucks foreal i know way better tablet's for 199 i bought an old galaxy tab from verizon for 68 dollars and it out shines the kindle in every way amazon app store please they just got the android market even thou its been on there since it came out next time you diss a 100 dollar tablet can you compare this to the novo 7 the only true 100 dollar tablet running ics it puts the kindle to shame with no flash at all on it all the other tablets at this price do suck but once again i have a kindle an its biggest flaw is that amazon made it
@papatheg I am copying your rant as the longest, most inane run on sentence in the world. Congratulations.
@TelstarII On behalf of other Novo7 users... I apologize. Just a reminder, hate the user, not the tablet.
@TelstarII He's not done yet. No period.
@TelstarII He didn't get started yet. No capital "K" on "kindle".
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@papatheg Holy crap! I think you just hit the record books for the longest most inane run on sentence ever.

From what I've been able to dredge from this morass of bad grammar is that you supposedly own a Kindle Fire, do not like it, bought a Galaxy Tab from Verizon (Wireless?) for $68 and feel it's better. Then you go on about the Novo 7 being the only sub-$100 tablet running ICS, babble about how the Kindle (Fire?) does not have Flash and that the Kindle's (Fire?) biggest flaw is that Amazon made it. Does that seem to be an accurate translation?
I agree there's a lot of bad tablets at that price point, but they're not all crap.

My humble little Novo7 sports a capacitive touch screen, HDMI output, an SD Card Slot, USB support, front-and-rear-facing cameras, and is the first officially licensed tablet running Ice Cream Sandwich. I'm not saying it's perfect, but at $99, it does an impressive amount of asskicking.
@DrakkenZero Looks like that one is nixed due to MIPS processor. The successor will be the Elf at $139 with 1.5Ghz ARM Cortex A8 in February. Too bad - it looked to be an interesting little bit of kit even if it couldn't run all the market apps.

Still, Ainol looks to be a value leader in the Android tablet space. Can't wait to see what Vizio and ViewSonic come up with.
@symbolset The MIPS processor is proving to be an... interesting challenge, however the good Dev folks just released an app called "Magic Code" which has drastically increased it's compatibility with Arm-coded apps. Also, since the MIPS processor is fairly new to the game, I'm hoping as more of them pop up more apps will include MIPS compatibility by default.
@DrakkenZero I'm looking forward to it! The $100 price point opens up lots of opportunities for geek toys. Since they're essentially disposable you can launch them on rockets, hoist them in balloons, disassemble them for robotics projects and whatnot.
Havent had enough FAIL from RIM? See Playbook 2.0 at CES. Yup it's another FAIL from the company that lived and breathed FAIL all year long in 2011. Need more android tablet FAIL? Have a heaping helping of moto xyboard FAIL. God it's just awful. Still not enough. Sammy's got a couple more boatloads of galaxy fail on tap. There should be lots of future landd fill android tablet fail for everyone whatever your price point is, from $99 to $599. Google sounds eager to jump on the FAIL train too in 2012. Maybe they'll call it chrome to try to distance themselves.
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First world problems
symbolset 8th Jan
Some of these tablets are amazing bits of technology, and the $99-$150 price range puts them within reach of many who otherwise couldn't have a tablet. I think that's a good thing.
Amazon did it right. A rooted and modded Fire is a very useful, reasonably priced Android tablet. Fortunately, so far, Amazon has not actively blocked rooting and adding the Android Market for the Fire.
The problem with this ZDnet blog is it sucks. You are not qulaified to comment on anything Android related as you are an apple shill
@druter Adrian does talk an awful lot about Android, but he used to say nice things. Maybe he's had a bad experience and needs to cry it out.
@druter
So.. plenty of MS and Android shills talk about Apple... What's your point?
@druter Finally someone who speaks the truth, on their knees in front of apple slurping away.
How odd. Whenever I see these tablets advertised on ebay they are always touted as ipad killers. happy
No, the tablets weren't horrific if they didn't have those horrible touch screens using ancient technology they would likely be viewed as decent for the money.
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I am auditioning for a position as a ZDNet blogger. Tell me how this sounds:

The problem with Android tablets is price! The problem with Android tablets is price!

Hey, these cheap Android tablets suck!
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RE: The problem with $99 Android tablets - they suck!
Return_of_the_jedi Updated - 8th Jan
@Robert Hahn

Sorry. I took back my post. AKH is not worth a reply.
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What's more annoying . . .
mwidunn 8th Jan
. . . watching Jason's piece of junk Maylong M-150 try to load a website (or, anything, for that matter) . . . or, watching this while Jason and his wife banter back and forth. Too many cooks spoil the broth.
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Not quite...
wright_is 8th Jan
What Amazon did with the Kindle Fire is make good, solid, reliable tablet for $199.
make for $199? Probably not, most reports suggest that they don't/barely break even on the hardware costs, let alone R&D, software and marketing.

Amazon can do this, because they use reasonable mid-range components to make a reasonable, mid-range experience (allegedly, I'm still waiting for a release date for the Kindle Fire). They can do this, because they are making their money on the eco-system behind the Fire - the Amazon services and sales through Prime.

This is something that the other tablet manufacturers can't do. Motorola, htc, Samsung etc. don't have a viable eco-system to back them up, Sony could be an exception here, with their music and film businesses, but they don't seem to be capitalising on that (yet).

That means that they have to make a profit on selling the hardware, which means, for a high-end tablet, they about the same as an iPad - which is also subsidised by Apple's eco-system on the iOS platform.

It is a bit of a no s**t Sherlock moment, to say that cheap tablets, using outdated and bargain basement components give a poor experience. The same is true for most markets - just look at the bargain basement cars turning up from China, heck, half of them don't even meet European safety standards and don't get an import licence!

You get, to a certain extent, what you pay for. With the Kindle Fire, if Amazon wasn't subsidising it with their eco-system, you probably wouldn't get much change out of $300 or $400.

You pays your money, you take your chances.

Given the Apple eco-system, the Android manufacturers being able to match the iPad price, without having an eco-system behind them is no bad thing, but we expect them to be cheaper, because they don't have "Apple" on the cover.
@wright_is Preach on, you and a few others seem to know whats going on.
You've hit the nail on the head Adrian. This usually holds true for most hit products on the market as copycats want to get their share of the cake.
I bought a $150 Android Tablet, a 7 inch Coby Kyros MID7015 in December of 2010. Awesome! I bought a $15 external keyboard for it and carried it on a 3 month bicycle tour in France last summer. With OpenStreeMap we had super detailed maps of nearly every little town we pedaled through. My wife and I used it to create text and upload text and photos of the tour with ftp. I play Angry Bird, Rio and Seasons with full graphics. We use it in the car as a toy, sudoku, jewels, AB etc for long trips (2300 miles for Christmas back home). I can carry it in my front jeans pocket when we go shopping. If you buy one for what it is it's great. If you buy it and think you've bought a iPad clone then I sure wouldn't feel sorry for you.
Memories of the Negroponte "OPC" Laptop project, which aimed to produce a sub-$100 laptop that was cheap enough that EVERY child throughout the third world coukld be given one. My wife has links with South African schools where classes of 150 kids are not uncommon, the ability to use the OPC's WiFi facility to share virtual textbooks on an equally "One Per Child" would be amazing. My "road to Domascus moment" was in a quiet square in the old quarter of Bratislava (capital of Slovakia) The square gets free WiFi, and kids sit around the edges of the square surfing on the most amazing collection of geriatric laptops you could imagine. Like South Africa, in Slovakia, a sub-$100 laptop (or tablet) would be snapped up as being - above all other considerations - AFFORDABLE.
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Nook no better at 3x the price
jelabarre 31st Jan
You want to talk about suckage? The Nook Tablet may have better hardware, but as a "tablet", it is very much a *fraud* in naming. B&N has managed to lock that P.o.S. down so much you can't run anything not found on their severely useless app store. For what little they actually have there (far less than what you can get on the standard Android app-stores) the miniscule selection is generally priced 2-3x what the same app sells for elsewhere (or they decide to charge for something that is free everyplace else), and/or are exceedingly amateurish and useless in design/coding. The NT is a grossly-overpriced e-reader: you could get the same functionality in a $79 monochrome ereader (or a used Palm Zire, if you're trying to do non-reading functions).

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