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Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

UPDATED - Is Microsoft getting ready to charge users for Windows Live Messenger Mobile?

By | January 9, 2008, 5:23am PST

Summary: I’ve starting to receive reports from some users of Windows Live Messenger Mobile that they are receiving “30 day trial” prompts when they connect to the service.

[UPDATED 08/01/08 4:00pm -  OK, finally word from Microsoft.  Here's what I got from Matt Champagne, director of Windows Live mobile services:

This week we rolled out a direct-to-consumer billing service for the Windows Live client on Nokia S60 in the UK and Sweden. Although we are considering doing the same at a future time for Windows Mobile, this has not been implemented – however, something happened and many of you saw a trial message on Windows Mobile devices. Windows Mobile customers shouldn’t have received any notifications of a 30-day trial and we are working as quickly as possible to correct this.

As you may know, we offer Messenger services through mobile operators on lots of handsets, not just Windows Mobile. Traditionally, customers have been billed by their mobile operators for many of these services, either directly or through their data package.]

I’ve starting to receive reports from some users of Windows Live Messenger Mobile that they are receiving “30 day trial” prompts when they connect to the service.

Here’s the offending message being displayed to users:

Hello! Starting today, your 30 day trial period beings. By selecting OK you acknowledge that your use of Windows Live services continues to be subject to the Terms of Use and Privacy Statement.

UPDATE: I’ve yet to see a screenshot of this message - apparently it’s quite elusive - so I’m not sure if that beings error message is part of the message or just a transcription typo.  Here’s the full message:

Hello! Starting today, your 30 day trial period begins. By selecting OK you acknowledge that your use of Windows Live services continues to be subject to the Terms of Use and Privacy Statement. Data charges from your mobile operator, including roaming fees may apply for using the Windows Live services. At the conclusion of this trial, you will be given the option to purchase a 30 day pass.

Details are currently sketchy but not all users seem to be seeing this prompt. 

Users on the MoDaCo forum are pretty representative - some seeing the prompt, others not.

Interestingly, the Windows Live ID terms and conditions does contain a clause to cover this:

7.4 Trial Period Offers. You may have received a limited time of free service or some other trial period offer. Unless we notify you otherwise, if you are participating in any trial period offer, you must cancel the service by the end of the trial period to avoid incurring charges. If you do not cancel your service, and we have informed you that the service will automatically be converted into a paid subscription at the end of the trial period, then you authorize us to charge your payment method for the service.  

I’ve emailed Microsoft for comment and will let you know what I hear.  But this does raise an interesting question - would you pay for the Windows Live Messenger Mobile service?

Poll

Would you pay to access the Windows Live Messenger Mobile service?

UPDATE: MoDaCo admin Paul (MVP) has caught a screenshot of the message - he had to hard reset his phone to get that.  Well done!

Is Microsoft getting ready to charge users for Windows Live Messenger Mobile?

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Yahoo's messenger is free and has complete access to the Windows Live users
notlehs 10th Jan 2008
So why would anyone pay to use Windows Live Messenger? Idiotic idea if you ask me...
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AFAIK
tombalablomba 9th Jan 2008
This was already communicated when they started this service. At least in Europe.
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Contributr
Seems ...
Adrian Kingsley-Hughes 9th Jan 2008
... like it was badly communicated to users!
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Of course Microsoft will come out and say sorry.
And add their new saying.

"We?re also going to take a hard look at how we can do better in the future."
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LOL
Hallowed are the Ori 9th Jan 2008
"We're also going to take a hard look at how we can do better in the future."

It does seem like they've been saying that a lot lately, doesn't it?
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MS is going to need some extra leverage. After I voted, I saw No...102% and 0% for the other two choices.
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102%???
Hallowed are the Ori 9th Jan 2008
They must have Hillary Clinton counting the votes.
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Thanks - You made me laugh NT
j.m.galvin 9th Jan 2008
nt
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Add to an ever growing list
CobraA1 9th Jan 2008
Add that to an ever-growing list of why I avoid buying a cell phone. Does anybody in the cell phone business do anything right?
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Microsoft doesn't "get ready to charge" for
anything. They are ALWAYS ready to charge,
for anything, or for nothing.

Microsoft devotes all their efforts to
looking for something to charge for, not
getting ready to charge for something.
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So what do you care
GuidingLight 9th Jan 2008
that companies like Microsoft and Apple charge for everything? You do have the choice not to use either of their offereings.
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It seems that roughly 96% of respondents won't be paying for the service. I cannot imagine it succeeding with such a low rate of positive responses.
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I once worked for the, Evil Empire, Microsoft and their lament was that they couldn't keep their "stuff" behind and firewall so that they could charge for it per view or use.

The Internet was not mature enough, but Bill "saw the light," which gave birth to Internet Explorer. He is a very smart and evil wizard. Even then he saw a way to his goal of enchanting the computer world and zipping it up into his pay per use nightmare where the poor need not apply. He knew that one day the Internet would grow up to be a strong dragon that could do his bidding.

I have decided to try and change the ending however. I will not use Microsoft products any more. I am moving to Linux and in those cases where Microsoft is the only answer, I will go without.

I will not sell enter Bill's world. Period.
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Typical Microsuck
itanalyst 9th Jan 2008
Wanna play, gotta play.
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I meant pay..not play.
itanalyst 9th Jan 2008
Absolutely not--they offered it--I can wait if it's important. MS is getting to be a TRex.
It would be counter-productive in their "reach-out" to capture the small business and independent business person. I would find no better reason to continue with what already works for NO COST. I do not believe Microsoft would be advised to charge for this service.
LegalWatchdog@gmail.com
Never! Why are the geeks in always crazy about money, slow down a bit! HAVE A RETHINK!
No way, I remove messenger from every computer I own because it trashes a machine and I'm D___ sure not goin to pay for the privledge of havin a virus on my machine
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learn to work a computer before you talk
KrazdKiller 10th Jan 2008
i have run messenger since 1995 with out any problems. i would not pay for the mobile service however. but messenger in and of it's self is completely stable. if you have problems with messenger(a easy program to run) i feel sorry for you and your lack of computer skills.
So why would anyone pay to use Windows Live Messenger? Idiotic idea if you ask me...

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