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Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

Windows 7 build 7048 vs. Windows 7 beta 1 vs. Vista vs. XP performance shootout - which is best?

By | March 10, 2009, 5:41am PDT

Summary: How does the latest leaked build of Windows 7 (7048) compare to the beta 1 (build 7000), Vista SP1 and XP SP3 in terms of performance? According to my Hardware 2.0 inbox, this is a question that you want answered. Let’s see if I can answer it for those of you who are interested!

Special Report: Windows 7

How does the latest leaked build of Windows 7 (7048) compare to the beta 1 (build 7000), Vista SP1 and XP SP3 in terms of performance? According to my Hardware 2.0 inbox, this is a question that you want answered. Let’s see if I can answer it for those of you who are interested!

Note: Before I go any further I feel I need to make a point, and make it clear. The builds I’m testing of Windows 7 (build 7000 and 7048) are beta builds, and as a rule beta builds are usually more geared towards stability than performance. That said, the performance of this build should give us a clue as to how the OS is coming along.

Important note: I have on several occasions contacted Microsoft for feedback on benchmarking Windows 7. At this point the company is not ready to discuss performance testing.

Rather than publish a series of synthetic benchmark results for the three operating systems (something which Microsoft frowns upon for beta builds, not to mention the fact that the final numbers only really matter for the release candidate and RTM builds), I’ve decided to put Windows 7, Vista and XP head-to-head in a series of real-world tests to find out which OS comes out top.

Let’s look at the test systems and the tests …

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Adrian Kingsley-Hughes is an internationally published technology author who has devoted over a decade to helping users get the most from technology.

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Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

Adrian Kingsley-Hughes is an internationally published technology author who has devoted over a decade to helping users get the most from technology -- whether that be by learning to program, building a PC from a pile of parts, or helping them get the most from their new MP3 player or digital camera.

Adrian has authored/co-authored technical books on a variety of topics, ranging from programming to building and maintaining PCs. His most recent books include "Build the Ultimate Custom PC", "Beginning Programming" and "The PC Doctor's Fix It Yourself Guide". He has also written training manuals that have been used by a number of Fortune 500 companies.

Adrian also runs a popular blog under the name The PC Doctor, where he covers a range of computer-related topics -- from security to repairing and upgrading.

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eggman, of course, u're right !
Sheafferer 19th Apr 2009
*****32 bit apps run fine under 64 bit - there is no 64 bit upgrade for MS office******

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...it's interesting to note that W7 does indeed appear to be a very effective OS.

As for the 64 bit question, with Quad Core largely becoming standard I think the focus needs to be here although MS obviously need to cater for their legacy market too.
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Tell the applications vendors
terry flores 10th Mar 2009
We're locked into 32 bit by software apps that aren't compatible, not by MS issues. MS does "cater" to legacy as best they can, but there is only so much they can do.

The obvious answer is to switch to apps that don't have these problems, which we've done for hundreds of apps migrated to web services and not dependent on 32/64 bit compatibility, or even Microsoft compatibility for that matter.
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Many apps don't NEED to be 64-bit
de-void-21165590650301806002836337787023 10th Mar 2009
What's the point of a 64-bit Notepad? Or Paint? Or Media Player? Or Tax Prep' app? Or Word Processing app? Or Order Entry System? ...

Only apps that need > 2GB RAM for themselves will benefit from being ported to 64-bit. Note that 64-bit apps carry an additional overhead of increased pointer and many integer data sizes, so if an app doesn't need > 2GB RAM, then there's no benefit in porting it to 64-bit.

HOWEVER, many people need a 64-bit OS. Why? If you run several apps simultaneously, each requiring several hundreds of megabytes each, there's a very good chance that all running apps combined will consume > 2GB RAM, thus forcing the OS to page infrequently used memory pages to/from disk, considerably slowing down your machine.

If you have a 64-bit OS on a machine with 4GB RAM or less, then the OS can map most of your hardware's address allocations to addresses above the 4GB mark, freeing up 500-850MB of addressing space within your RAM's address space. Thus, the 64-bit OS gets access to RAM that a 32-bit OS would not. If, on the other hand, you have a machine with > 4GB RAM, you *must* have a 64-bit OS in order to access the full complement of RAM.
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Yes they do need to be 64 bit
library assistant 10th Mar 2009
or at least compatible. My home computer crashed and it was cheaper to buy new than fix/upgrade old. EXCEPT that all the new computers are 64 bit Vista. Of the programs I use most on my home computer, my email ap, Paint Shop Pro UX2 were the only 2 that were compatible. I had to purchase an upgrade of Office, and Photoshop-and those were the only 2 upgradable. That made it MUCH more expensive - especially given that no one had any idea whether the aps I was using previously were compatible with Vista anything to start with. Yes, I should have built my own system - but I didn't have the time; this was THE worst possible time to have my home computer crash. I'm only running a sideline business.

Imagine if my livelihood depended on that computer? If you have to buy new hardware, you are most likely stuck with Vista 64, unless, perhaps, you intend to run a netbook.
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not my experience...
kathygnome 10th Mar 2009
I am certainly not friend to Vista and I have found all sorts of software and hardware that isn't compatible, but whether it was 32 or 64 bit Vista has been completely irrelevent in my experience.
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Drivers are a different story.

But the previous poster is correct. Many apps can remain 32bit and some probably will for some time.
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Really?
jasonp@... 11th Mar 2009
Funny that the apps don't feel that way. For instance, SQL Server/Office interop code breaks in spectacular fashion. You'd think that Microsoft might have thought about the millions of lines of code out there that reads/writes data directly from SQL Server to Excel files. From a SQL stored procedure, you used to be able to easily peer into an Excel file to read data or write data out to an Excel file. Every single bit of that code breaks the moment you move from SQL Server 2005 on a 32 bit Windows machine to SQL Server 2005 on a 64 bit Windows machine. That's just one example of something I know for a fact to be broken going from 32 bit to 64 bit.
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what do you call an "app"
whallify 11th Mar 2009
Since when is SQL Server an app? That's a server product.

Apps are: Office, Trillian, Firefox, GVIM, Puty, Picasa, Adobe Reader, Visual Studio, Snagit, FeedDemon, Quicktime, Flash, etc.

Server products are: Exchange, SQL Server, BizTalk, MOSS/SharePoint, etc.

For the most part, all the 32-bit apps run fine on a 64-bit OS.
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change that to MOST 32 bit apps work fine
tech_walker 11th Mar 2009
in 64 bit. But no not all by any means.
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Of course they do...
jasonp@... 11th Mar 2009
except for the ones that don't.
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Sorry but you didnt load it properly...
rbslack@... 11th Mar 2009
since i also loaded SQL to check performance as well as several other engineering and office apps as well as dedicated lab software and had no problems. I had none of the problems you expweriencedwith excel data so since i ran the tests on 4 different systems and it worked perfectly every time i can only conclude that you made mistakes in your test or your code was flawed to begin with. Please be sure you know what you are talkin about before you start talking about a supposed issue, it is stupid mistakes like that that give people unfounded fears about upgrading to a better and much more stable system.
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There are several aps that install a basic version of SQL on your computer as part of their install routine.
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And whose fault...
fairportfan 11th Mar 2009
...is that?

Any time you write software that ducks around the API for a little extra speed, you run the risk of getting shafted when new hardware comes out.
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64 bit now
mjolnar@... 11th Mar 2009
I was using XP Pro 32 bit, with Office 2007. I upgraded my system to Vista 64 but, I still can use all my Office 2007 apps. I haven't found much of anything that doesn't work, then again, I'm still waiting for all those crashes and problems with the machine, every one talks about.

I find myself using Intrepid Ibex almost exclusively, but when I need to get in my Excel or Access files, I have no problems. Vista is not that trouble prone, but I find that Ubuntu is a much faster system. I will probably wait to see what the cost of the Windows 7 will be before I commit to spending money on an O/S that I shouldn't have to.
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That's interesting. Because I run several applications that have snuck in some SQL or SQL lite version, and they're all running fine on my 64 bit Vista machine.
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such as descent and diablo in fact i spend a good deal of time loading the oldest games and CAD and office produtivity software i could find to check on the compatability across the board and in every instance they ran perfectly.
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DEAD WRONG!
eggmanbubbagee@... 10th Mar 2009
32 bit apps run fine under 64 bit - there is no 64 bit upgrade for MS office - what are you talking about?
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eggman, of course, u're right !
Sheafferer 19th Apr 2009
*****32 bit apps run fine under 64 bit - there is no 64 bit upgrade for MS office******

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If the software is well written
windozefreak 10th Mar 2009
It does not matter one bit. However badly written software will have a problem regardless. My experience is that my 64 bit machine will run well written 32 bit software in 32 bit mode, and run 64 bit software in 64 bit mode. But, if the software is poorly written it will not run it in any mode.
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Vista 32bit and XP Pro downgrade
Miss Wiggly 11th Mar 2009
Why not just use your 'downgrade right' that Microsoft offers you to install and activate Windows XP Pro ... or get a system with Vista 32bit ... both are easily available. We run Vista x64 Ultimate everywhere and 'very very few' apps will not work and we throw a lot of different software at our systems. Clients that want XP Pro, get XP Pro, no problem.
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64 bit
Budster1 11th Mar 2009
where the hell do you shop ? i have never yet seen the only choise as 64 bit vista when i go to the tech stores !
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Consider yourself unlucky.
CobraA1 11th Mar 2009
Consider yourself unlucky. That's not the usual experience with a 64 bit system.

I've had very, very few troubles running 32 bit applications on a 64 bit system.

With the exception of security and driver software, all of my 32 bit applications just worked.
These additional registers lead to higher performance (I've measured > 11%).

While I agree that many applications do not need to be 64 bit the computing industry will move forward. I do not see the increased pointer size being that big of an issue. For main memory pointer size is a non-issue given memory sizes today. About the only place where it would have any appreciable impact would be processor caches.

In the end 64 bit is the future. Let's stop wasting time trying to justify what is inevitable.
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Thank You
rbslack@... 11th Mar 2009
I'm glad there are some out there who realise that progress by its very nature entails change. Those who are afraid of change will soon fail in bussiness as in real life, since lack of change leads to stagnation and eventual demise.
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A quick question about 64 vs 32
rwpank 27th Mar 2009
Is it correct to assume that a 64 bit Vista or
Win7 can be installed over a Vista 32 bit? I
goof when I purchased the 32 and really needed
the 64 to use my 4GB of ram.
Thanks for your time
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The you may want to change vendors.
Sleeper Service 10th Mar 2009
Or run the application in 32 bit mode.
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64 bit is only needed for apps that are bigger than 2 Gig. It provides a negative performance gain unless your application is memory constrained , in tests with 50 windows open for the same app it may start paging but this will not be the case for real life.

Its also worth noting since 64 bit apps need 64 bit addressing you get lower performance ( since the program is bigger having to store those 64 bit addresses prob 50-80% bigger) , this will have a negative impact on performance.

In terms of data PCs have been using 256 bits for a long time now ( via MMX extensions).

If you need to run a lot of apps you are best of running a 64 bit OS with 32 bit apps so the OS can address more memory ( which provides some gains) .
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Very few Atom's are 64-bit though
Joe_Raby 10th Mar 2009
The nettop versions are (the 230 single-core and 330 dual-core, both of which also have Hyperthreading). AFAIK the MID (Z-series) and netbook (N-series) model Atoms don't have 64-bit support.

What's interesting is the the Z series Atom's have VT (virtualization technology) support. Some MID makers are disabling it though. It's disabled in my Sony VAIO P, and there's no BIOS option to enable it even though Intel clearly states on their site that the Z520 has VT included.

...and I wanted to run Virtual PC with VT support on this thing too! wink
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Correction Needed(Table): Vista Build 7048?
Gnutella Updated - 10th Mar 2009
Last Column is incorrectly titled Vista instead of Seven.
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Contributr
Fixed!
Adrian Kingsley-Hughes 10th Mar 2009
Cheers!
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XP SP3 But why?
rtirman37@... 11th Mar 2009
You can't use the Candidate Release Internet Explorer8. And is'nt it for Server2008.
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I have every reason that Vista is crap. the only thing it does do is affordable gamees. Even GTA is double stupid with Vista because it requires Administrative priveledges. Yea, where are they; with task manager....I would lock that thing up but I would feel guilt I had a billion dollars and ran a company for one dollar per year. There is fifty trillion dollars out there in sell offs of the stock exchange or in Russia's USA oil pennisula that tells me that you may earn one dollar but Uncle Gladimere just handed you a briefcase with $100,000,000 in ten thousand dollar bills in US Currency.

Life is unfair..Good morning!
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Eh?
Sleeper Service 10th Mar 2009
GTA IV is stupid because you have to join Rockstar Social Club amongst other things as well as beign an absolute pig to install. This is true if you install it on an XP machine too.

The rest of your post falls into the 'wtf?' category.
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What... the... F...? (nt)
tikigawd 11th Mar 2009
nt
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what he meant
jdieter@... 11th Mar 2009
He meant to say, that Vista is a schmista and WIn 7 is a himmalama. Adnan has the codes of java. ALL IS LOST! But who wants 2 gig of secret code on every machine! My desktop is a terminal, I use VM's for everything. Why buy everyone fancy hardware when Ubuntu can RDP just fine. You cannot develop on desktops anyway. (not using ms stuff anyway) Anyone fighting with sharepoint, I know where all the cheese is. I get $250 an hour for sharepoint, and it takes me 10 times longer than LAMP dev, (which I only get $90 for) GO MS!
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You are a comlete noob....
rbslack@... 11th Mar 2009
or just comletely computer illiterate if you dont know how to configure a system to run either vista or xp i ran vista successfully on several systems and never once had a significant issue with any of them even running the highest end games and apps available.
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Huh?
fairportfan 11th Mar 2009
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????
medezark@... 12th Mar 2009
Get some sleep. Even though you may think your post offered profound wisdom, it made no sense.
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Finally!
Badgered 13th Mar 2009
Someone made less sense than n0neXn0ne.

I honestly didn't think it was possible. Congrats!
is aging, and there are very negative perceptions about Vista.

Another good article Adrian.
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Adoption more than migration...
Bruce Lang 10th Mar 2009
More likely, IMHO, users will adopt Windows 7 with a new system and are less likely to migrate from a previous OS.

XP users should, may be forced to(?), backup, re-format and begin afresh with Win7 - scary :-P
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Microsoft's biggest upgrade ever?
de-void-21165590650301806002836337787023 10th Mar 2009
When Win95 shipped, people queued outside stores which opened at 00:00 on the day it was released. Win95 was a REALLY compelling upgrade for many users of Win3.x and DOS.

Whilst we probably won't see as frenzied a rush on release day, it's important to note that there are many tens of millions more PC's today than in '95. Many of those PC owners are waiting for Win7. I foresee Win7 being a prime opportunity for PC owners to upgrade and breathe a new lease of life into older, lower-end machines when they upgrade to Win7.

I un-mothballed a 5 year old P4 to Beta early alpha's of Win7 on and was blown away by how fast and stable even the earliest builds were. The latest builds are just awesome. Can't wait for RTM happy
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I agree
914four 10th Mar 2009
Last summer I had to call multiple vendors to find a copy of XP SP3 for my (then) new system. I already own an unused copy of Vista but couldn't bear to install it again.
I am anticipating Win7 so that I can make use of all my RAM in Windows, and at last I'll get some value from that Vista CD. I'd cue too if I knew they'd allow upgrades...

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Windoze
mccoyjw@... 10th Mar 2009
What's all the buzz???? I'm still happy with 98se.
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Donnie... Is that you?
LiquidLearner 10th Mar 2009
I really agree with what you're saying. I'm amazed. In fact, it makes me question everything about my life. hehe

At any rate, you're right. XP is aging rapidly. And the perceptions of Vista aren't even worth bothering trying to overcome with 7 around the corner. It's like I've stated before, I'm one of the people who actually enjoyed using Vista. At least until I started using 7. It's much more refined and incredibly responsive in comparison to either Vista or XP that it makes me cringe to go back to any released MS OS every day when I have to use them.
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I had to read it twice...nt
TheBottomLineIsAllThatMatters 11th Mar 2009
nt
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The Unsung Hero
mikefarinha Updated - 10th Mar 2009
I think one of the interesting takeaway from this post is that Vista beats or ties XP in one of the most publicly criticized aspects of Vista, performance.

Just goes to show that due to the continuation of unfair public misrepresentation Windows Vista is still considered the red-headed step child of Microsoft; it has become the sacrificial lamb of Windows.

It should be noted that Windows 7 wouldn't be what it was with out Windows Vista and the accompanying public feedback. A lot of the foundational technology that was introduced in Vista has been refined in Windows 7. At its core Windows 7 is an minor evolution of Windows Vista... and this is a very very good thing!

I guess it is all just water under the bridge at this point.
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true
eggmanbubbagee@... 10th Mar 2009
The old canard that Vista is slower than XP has been debunked here several times now but the haters are still in denial about it, it was the last fig leaf for those who continued to hate Vista even after it had matured and was running fine - Vista is a slow pig, that's there story and they are sticking to it - otherwise too many 'experts' would have to admit they were wrong
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Vista is faster but...
Keywalker4God 10th Mar 2009
speed is not the main issue for haters of
Vista. Vista also fails to run legacy apps
faster than XP. Vista fails to be compatible
with existing peripherals and drivers faster
than XP. Vista fails to be user friendly right
out of the box with it's UAC turned on by
default. I have found it to be faster to lock
up Internet Explorer as well. Hooray for speedy
Vista!
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not the latest complaint
eggmanbubbagee@... 10th Mar 2009
it's just the reverse - most of the tech pundits admit that hardware, drivers and software are pretty much mature and Vista ready by now (they weren't for the first year for sure) but that Vista is simply too slow and 'bloated' compared to the speedy XP.

And yes, I realize XP still wins the compatibility comparison, but the gap is no longer wide enough to deter most from transitioning to Vista when they buy a new machine. It was always thus with new OSes. XP took several years to catch up with 98 in this regard too.

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