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Get off your Windows high horse: Try something new

By | June 22, 2010, 5:58pm PDT

Summary: Whether you’re a Windows user or a Mac user, do yourself a favour and branch out to something different. The ability to change is huge, and it may land you your next job over someone else.

The vast majority of students use Windows, with a small selection using Mac’s and a very niche number using a Linux variant. But what good is it if you are going into a working environment and they don’t use the software you’ve always been used to?

It’s not what you use; it’s how you adapt. In the wise words of a good friend and a PhD student of bio-mechanical engineering:

“Some people are just Windows people. Some people are just Mac people. Of course there are people who get muddled up in between, but there’s no harm in not making your mind up. It’s pretty much as simple as that”.

I can’t really disagree with that statement. But the conversation progressed to the working world, in that though she was brought up through school and university to use Windows, within the first few weeks of being in the lab she had to use a Mac.

She had no choice but to adapt. And seeing as she had never used a Mac before, she found it difficult to escape the Windows-mindset.

Within a few days, she got her head around it and could function at full speed, albeit finding new tools and tricks that she found previously in Windows. But nevertheless she adapted - rather quickly and efficiently. In such a short space of time, she realised how similar the experiences actually were, and that the ability to adapt to her new environment was already established from prior knowledge.

Even though I had never used Ubuntu before, or any Linux operating system for that matter, I went 48 hours into an environment I had never been in before, and made it to the end with a great sense of admiration for the open-source competitor.

While I wouldn’t necessarily use it as my main production machine for writing essays and suchlike, when you’re on a long haul flight from London to New York, running Ubuntu does boost the battery life to hold out for the long run.

My argument is simple. Students of today are usually in two firm camps: Windows users and Mac users. Neither is right nor wrong. It doesn’t matter what you use or how you use it. What is important is that the working world may not be so giving to your pre-existing needs.

So though you shouldn’t necessarily permanently deviate from your operating system to another, you should branch out. Take the plunge and go and visit an Apple store, or a Microsoft store for that matter. Pick up something you haven’t used before and have a play. Take a look, use it for a while, see what you can do with it, browse, write, and experiment.

The same with Linux. If you can, crack open a virtual machine and install Ubuntu and have a root around. Don’t be disheartened by the confusing command lines or the weird looking interface. Really give it a go, and enjoy the experience of using it.

The skill you will learn is not how to use another, alien operating system but the ability to adapt. It’s like a right-handed person writing with their left hand: the knowledge is there, the skill is pre-existing but the ability to persevere and to adapt to the new way of working is absolutely vital.

Plus - if you have on your resume that you can work with either Windows, Mac or Linux, then that’s going to make you far more attractive in the workplace as the skills are there and the company won’t have to shell out precious money to invest in training “just another graduate student”.

God only knows what you’ll face in the working world, so get used to everything you can. Granted, it probably won’t be Mac OS X or Linux, but can you afford to take the risk?

It all boils down to experience and the ability to change.

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Zack Whittaker, a criminologist who studied at the University of Kent, Canterbury, is a journalist, writer and broadcaster.

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(Updated: 23rd October 2011)

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Zack Whittaker, criminologist who studied at the University of Kent, UK, is a journalist, writer and broadcaster.

After studying criminology at university, though still in his early-20's, he has already had a series unconventional work and voluntary positions. He has worked with researchers studying neurological illnesses like Tourette's syndrome (which he suffers from), has given lectures on the nature of disabilities in the public community, and occasionally ends up speaking on television and radio discussing the events of the day.

He first had academic work published at the age of 22, then still an undergraduate, and has been cited by a wide range of publications: from the Huffington Post, Business Insider, AllThingsDigital, The Atlantic Wire and CBS News.

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RE: Get off your Windows high horse: Try something new
jkohut 29th Jun 2010
I think a mistake made by too many people when they are first starting out is specializing. When you are fresh out of school (or a new career in general), don't limit your options. Get as wide a variety of experience as possible. As you get older, and your work situation changes, you may find that what was hot today, is being phased out tomorrow. If you seen as having a limited skill set (albeit one that was important 2 years ago), you may find yourself without a future in your company.
[Plus - if you have on your resume that you can work with either Windows, Mac or Linux, then that?s going to make you far more attractive in the workplace]

I guess that would depend upon what you do for a living .... As a Windows programmer, I've never been asked if I know how to use a Mac, much less Linux.
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frgough 22nd Jun 2010
Ya gott love how people think their little cocoons are the universe.
they act as if there is no universe beyond the one Apple created.

(you walked right into that one, frgough! happy )
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Little cocoon?
NonZealot 23rd Jun 2010
@frgough
Have you seen the marketshare numbers? So while I won't argue that knowing other OSs is a bad thing (I'm glad I tried OS X, now I know first hand just how bad it is and that I would never work for an employer who forced me to use it), you have to admit that Windows only people are living in a huge cocoon! happy
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I cannot say for Linux but I can guarantee having MAC on the resume helps little if not down right nothing.
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@LBiege... some top end Pro Audio Tools publish their software primarily to MAC. Not to say that there are not professional tools for audio setup on windows, but I know that some schools teach the MAC setup.

Disney/Pixar used Linux to create animated movies such as Finding Nemo, in that shop it would be a huge benefit to know Linux.

The Education sector uses a full mixture, depending on the campus. There are some campuses that are primarily MACs, other Linux, and more often Windows.

But if you are good are job hunting, and if your serious about specific companies, typically you would do some networking to find out what they are using. If they are primarily a Windows shop then anything but Windows will do you little good. If the run a mix, then having the ability to work with multiple OSes is a big plus. If the company is primarily MAC, well then your resume needs to be geared toward the MAC.

I have talked to several trainers who all say that while Windows is dominate, it is always a good idea to show on a resume that you do have the ability to adapt, should the company decides to change platforms. But again, all of this is information that can be gleaned by making important networking contacts.
@LBiege
It helps as much as me putting I can speak swedish on my resume.

For anyone working in high tech I would never ever recommend avoiding windows. The job opportunities for windows is far greater than anything else. Why would you want to start off limiting your options? Not only work options but salary options as well. Windows developers are paid well and if you don't like your job, its easy to switch to another company. In my 20 years of development I have never had any problems moving from company to company. I even relocated across the country just because I want to live somewhere else. And finding work didn't take more than 3 weeks. If my core skill set was Mac, good luck with that.
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@LBiege I think it does. Just as @rengek says, it's like speaking another language. If you get through the job interview process and you land yourself the job, and your first day involves almost crying because the entire organisation uses an operating system you have no clue about, then that's going to cause issues.

Many will know, that speaking another language - such as Swedish, opens up the door to many others. It's not the vocabulary you learn as such, it's the ability to adapt and the ability to learn how to learn - basically.
@JM1981: Most high-end audio/video shops aren't going to give much credence to any operating system - OS skill set is pretty easy to train into a person. The more important skills will be either the theory and knowledge behind the art itself (are you a good designer / animator / audio engineer), or the specialized software they will be using (Pro Tools, Logic, Final Cut Pro, Avid, Renderman, etc).
@roteague So you wouldn't be interested in a high paying job developing for a Linux platform? I to was a Microsoft developer until a Linux company was hiring and I decided to apply, allowing them to understand that I had hardly used Linux or developed on another OS but was super keen to learn. Two years on I am now lead developer, deploying applications over customer servers (Linux servers) and loving using my Ubuntu desktop over and above Windows ... in fact I no longer use Windows at all. Being able to develop for an open standards system allows you to be capable in others as well.
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Richard Flude 22nd Jun 2010
"As a Windows programmer, I've never been asked if I know how to use a Mac, much less Linux."

The windows guy doesn't recognise the value in learning other approaches. If more windows programmers had exposure to *nix we would have had the difficulty we did getting their software to work on platforms after XP.
@roteague
There are two reasons to have it on the resume.
First to inform them that you are familiar with the environment.
Second is to demonstrate your flexibility. You are more valuable if you can deal with unusual situations and are able to think in different ways.
@lars626
I hire developers. If mac skill is on your resume I would say thats nice now what do you know about windows because I need you to write in .net and since apple doesn't have a single web development platform worth a lick and web development is independent of your o/s the mac skills is just a nice to have skills. Of course by spending your time focusing on it, that means you don't have time to focus on .net, IIS, jquery, css, html, php and all those other more important skills.
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mwagner@... 23rd Jun 2010
@roteague ... straight out of school ... the more skills you can put on a resume, the better.
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Branching out only works in limited cases. If you are a sysadmin applying at a company with both Microsoft Windows and Macs then yes you will want to know both. But for the most part the employer will look at the resume and ask "Can you work with Windows, Office, and Application X?" If you are strictly a Mac person or linux person then forget it. I've been to the Apple store, not only was it lame in both that I went to, but using the products nothing really stood out at me about them. I thought they were supposed to be speedy and fast so I brought up Garage Band and it still took a minute or so to load. And with linux you might as well forget it because employers are not using it, and most are migrating away from it. You are better off watching paint dry than wasting time with it.
It seems to bother you that people can use multiple environments, no problem.
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@DonnieBoy
Doesn't bother me a bit. I even stated it in my post to know Windows and Mac when it applies to the situation. The real issue here is that your depressed that people are not using linux anymore.
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tracy anne 23rd Jun 2010
the poor bugger needs to get back on his meds.
@Loverock Davidson Linux use has only grown and in fact corporates are more willing than ever to look at Linux as alternatives to the Windows desktop in their organisations, as attested by the fact that our company has received numerous queries by organisations about it.

In the server space, many organisations are moving away from Windows servers as well which is where our company does its business. If an organisation is moving their servers to Linux I guaranteee that Linux skills in house will be more sought after in the future.
prefers Linux. They both need to know Windows for school
What needs to be taken into account is the fact that Mac and Linux (both Unix cousins) are far more secure, stable, and faster than MS Windows could ever hope to be.

The other reality is that 99.99% of all common tasks that require a computer can be performed under Mac and Linux environments. There's absolutely no reason why one could not use these platforms for just about everything- with the obvious exception of Windows-centric software.

The idiot mentality that "people are not using Linux anymore" is astounding. Linux has been around for many years, and while Microsoft has spent millions of dollars trying to quell this market (and failing miserably), Linux development continues strong by a brilliant and caring developer community.
@Aaln The biggest problem is that people are scared to switch because they expect to be able to use Application X, and don't realise the plethora of alternative applications that can do the exact same job (maybe slightly differently) that are out there.
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@garethmcc ... that the next piece of software they might want to use won't run under some obscure variant of an open source OS.

It takes a lot of special knowledge to support your own OS. With Windows and MacOSX, one needs ot know very little to support yourself.

Just because their might be open source 'alterantives' to your favorite software doesn't mean that you should have to use them if you (1) prefer what you know or (2) want to have access to the widest possible choice of software packages.
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mwagner@... 23rd Jun 2010
@Aaln ... Windows is every bit as secure as MacOSX, UNIX (in all it's variations), and Linux (really a UNIX clone, not a cousin).

The main reason Windows seems more 'vulnerable' is that it is a bigger target. A hacker in not going to waste his time writing malicious code for for an OS with a small user-base.

Also, there are far more people who know Windows internals than who know UNIX internals. (All it takes a a few hundred bucks and a few hours of your time to earn an MSCE.) certification).
I agree Aain.. I am very new to the Linux environment and I can tell you the new GUIs and other improvements over the years, has made me really pack up and tell windows Good-Bye! I recently read where the Linux OS has actually gained users over the last few quarters and windows has lost users. You cannot ask for an environment that is greater than open source for the people to expand..

I believe Linux is definitely the future of OSs.. IMO
@artienet

For a VERY long time. I'm sorry to say I can't agree with you. In the battle between free and proprietary, free can only go so far before proprietary beats them out.
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@artienet ... and Linux is very strong in certain fields and to certain audiences but it is still not very useful to consumers with little or not technical knowledge. This is mainly because it is not widely available, preloaded and supported, on name-brand personal computers.
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Depends if you are to manage them or just use them
Patanjali Updated - 22nd Jun 2010
If just using them, because most OSs have the same underlying concepts, knowing those concepts will probably be enough to adapt without having to use them before the need arises.

However, if you need to manage them, that requires a deeper level of understanding and thus some 'quality time' spent learning their idiosyncrasies.

There are too many things to know about these days without having to clog up one's brain with details that may not be relevant. Viva la just-in-time knowledge aquisition.
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Eclipse IDE statistics
garethmcc 22nd Jun 2010
I know statistics are lumped into the "Lies, damn lies and statistics" phrase, but the Eclipse IDE recently released a report showing that downloads of its IDE for Linux platforms has increased significantly while the downloads for the Windows has dropped by an even larger amount. What this tends to show is that new developers are using Linux more and even existing Windows developers are starting to make the switch.

The impact of that is that once the IT geeks start using a Linux desktop, the family members and even business decision makers start considering these alternatives because "those in the know" rate them highly.
@garethmcc
What it tends to show is that java on windows is dead and not worth the time because the IDE can't compare to Visual Studio.
Java on linux is much better than the rest of the junk most distros have packaged with them.
@ITLeader Eclipse and Netbeans are both brilliant IDEs and easily rival VS on Windows as well as Linux. I've used them and VS extensively, and while VS is better at some things Netbeans especially is easily ahead in others.
@garethmcc
I read it as the eclipse ide and java in general on windows are dropping because there are much better alternatives, such as VS.
On linux, it's about the best alternative.
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Learn how to use a shell!
javamonkey 23rd Jun 2010
On the IT front - it amazes me these days that students can graduate with a computer science degree without ever having to use a shell. Seriously?! Regardless of what OS you use, this is a fundamental skill. Any man and his dog can boot up Ubuntu and say he's now got experience working with windows, mac and linux platforms (it's really, really not hard.)

If on the other hand you can say you're comfortable working solely with bash, can say you've become frustrated with ksh in the past and don't understand how anyone can use it these days, know your way around vim, know how and when to use nohup, sudo, grep and other standard commands - that WILL be an advantage. Just saying you can work out what KDE does and you've had a play in the past really isn't.
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Don't need the shell, old man.
tricktytom 23rd Jun 2010
@javamonkey I'm one of those kids who doesn't need the shell...never have and never will. I can control my OS just fine without your old ways!
@tricktytom

Real men use the the command line, script kiddies use point and click.

It's as simple as that!
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@OS Reload

What is a command line? Oh that thing that ran DOS? That thing I only need to use when I need to dump an IP address? Yeah, no thanks. Without the GUI computers would be nowhere near as plentiful as they are now.
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Do need the shell, script kiddie.
javamonkey 25th Jun 2010
@tricktytom If you're just casually using a computer or knocking out HTML then you don't. If you're dealing with Linux / Unix servers on a day by day basis, you do. To start with, if you know what you're doing it's a much faster way of working.

Secondly, no-one's going to install X and KDE on their server because the new guy can't cope without a mouse.
@NStalnecker I'm talking about the SHELL, not the COMMAND LINE. One is an ancient, near obsolete windows thing that Microsoft have pretty much abandoned. The other is an essential, powerful tool that can often be used far more effectively than pointing and clicking until you drop.
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Off you Windows High Horse
jspignardo@... 23rd Jun 2010
Funny how the article title is Windows negative but then you go on to pretend that you are an objective computer user. Why that title? Does it show your true colors. Apparently you have never spoken to a ******** Linux or Mac user. If you did you would find that there allegiance to those OSes borders on the irrational.
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Oh thats right...
Snooki_smoosh_smoosh 23rd Jun 2010
@jspignardo@... It is irrational to use something other than Windows.

My first exposure to OSX is at the job I am currently in, and I have yet to see a rabid Mac User, however, You among several others on this site are Rabid Windows users, full of poisonous language should anyone betray the almighty MSFT by using a competing product. What a load of crock.

Leave your fanboism at the door.
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The real question is...
tricktytom 23rd Jun 2010
"Do I spend my time learning another OS, which I may never need, or do I spend my time learning more about the OS that I KNOW I'll need".
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@tricktytom

Too bad it's all wrong.
@OS Reload: You used that term twice now. Did you learn a new phrase? You're so cute when you try to talk like the grown ups!
@daftkey Before going off with ad-hoc insults, you might want to take a step back and realise the that OS Reload is actually perfectly correct - and has been twice wink
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Zack, A Donkey is Not a Horse!
OS Reload 23rd Jun 2010
Not a Horse

And it's not that high either.
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@OSReload It can be. It depends what the donkey/horse would define itself as. If the donkey says it's a horse, then one could argue that it in fact is a horse. Who else is to say otherwise?
It may have escaped your notice, Zack and his camp followers, that there's more to the job market than graphic design and obscure back room IT admin. Your article should have been addressed to Mac users, not PC users. Mac users are the ones who are going to get the job shock in the real world.
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not really because the USER is only a user
Quebec-french 23rd Jun 2010
@Vesicant
His right are block on the computer so he use appz .... cs5 on a mac or a pc is cs5 same thing for all appz a few nic here or there but USER are nothing more that user. No right on the machine so he only use the machine period .... and by all mean if you IT let user have right on there box please run for covert
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@Vesicant Well, it kind of was - but I didn't want to sound discriminatory. Frankly, it doesn't really matter. We should all branch out to "the different" because you can not guarantee that the workplace you go into will be a Windows environment.
I think a mistake made by too many people when they are first starting out is specializing. When you are fresh out of school (or a new career in general), don't limit your options. Get as wide a variety of experience as possible. As you get older, and your work situation changes, you may find that what was hot today, is being phased out tomorrow. If you seen as having a limited skill set (albeit one that was important 2 years ago), you may find yourself without a future in your company.

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