New location 'feature' expected, but can Facebook be trusted?

By | August 17, 2010, 6:33pm PDT

Summary: Facebook is expected to introduce Foursquare-like geo-location features to the social network. But with Facebook’s track record with privacy, can the site be trusted with this very personal data?

All Things Digital report that Facebook has been sending out invitations to select media outlets inviting them to a mysterious press conference later today (Wednesday 18th).

The new feature is expected to be a direct competitor to the popular geo-location check-in application Foursquare which has been in the works for some time. It wasn’t too long ago that the social network considered buying up Foursquare which never made it through. So, in true modern day competitive style, Facebook decided to make its own.

An API will be opened up to allow third-party developers to create check-in applications for a range of devices and platforms to enable others to capitalise upon this brand new feature.

Facebook, especially in light of the numerous serious privacy issues over the last year, will now be entrusted by you, the user, to your location data. Really? This apparantly is not a joke.

Geo-location has been a gimick over the last few years, with mobile devices becoming equipped with GPS technology and the sat-nav software which has enabled users to find where they are and where to go. Flipping it round though, some bright spark reversed the concept of GPS to enable location based features like local shops, bars, and landmarks. Since then, the ‘Foursquare revolution’ has taken a community and social spirit.

But looking through a random selection of my Twitter followers, which opened up location based features this time last year, opens an insight into the darker side of knowing exactly where someone is at any one time.

To post my home address and postcode on the web is dangerous enough as it is. To have my phone which constantly kicks out my exact location down to a square metre is terrifying. Granted, I’m not a celebrity nor a major public figure, but I’ve had plenty of death threats over the last couple of years and frankly, I take the privacy of my personal information very seriously.

And now for a social network which has already had serious flaws in its privacy policies, exploits and holes where data can be leaked or be made public, and a CEO which takes user data in a blasé fashion by calling users “dumb” for trusting him, I am beyond apprehensive.

The Electronic Frontier Foundation has documented the changes in Facebook’s privacy policies since 2005, where originally your data remained as yours and eroded away to the point where not only everything you submitted became theirs, but even your uploaded content would not be deleted from their servers.

Even after the major overhaul of the site’s privacy settings, many argued that the new settings intended to share more of the user’s data with everybody and was heavily criticised by the Canadian government and a Norwegian consumer protection agency.

If I could cut Facebook out of my life without the risk of social exclusion, I would. Personally this is yet another feature which could be exploited and taken advantage of - more likely to be in Facebook’s gain in some way, and nothing good can come from this.

The company has a repugnant track record with user data, information and privacy. Need I say more?

Would you trust Facebook with your geo-location data?

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Zack Whittaker, a criminologist who studied at the University of Kent, Canterbury, is a journalist, writer and broadcaster.

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(Updated: 23rd October 2011)

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After studying criminology at university, though still in his early-20's, he has already had a series unconventional work and voluntary positions. He has worked with researchers studying neurological illnesses like Tourette's syndrome (which he suffers from), has given lectures on the nature of disabilities in the public community, and occasionally ends up speaking on television and radio discussing the events of the day.

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good idea about facebook
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"but can Facebook be trusted?"

No.
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Facebook and trust ....
wackoae Updated - 17th Aug 2010
... aren't words that can be put together.

Facebook is the #1 source of identity theft today. So how can you trust a company that sells all your information to the highest bidder .... after you personally gave them the right to do it??
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Citation please....
Snooki_smoosh_smoosh 18th Aug 2010
@wackoae... It really is easy to make frivolous statistics.
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No, if you have kids, then this is a problem
Maarek Updated - 18th Aug 2010
Now your kids can have their very own pedophile stalking them. Bad idea.
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NO!
cmwade1977 18th Aug 2010
No, facebook cannot be trusted with this.....honestly I wish there was a viable alternative to Facebook, they are getting to be just plain evil.
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Set Your Privacy Settings
UnixMan2501 18th Aug 2010
Most privacy issues can be solved by setting privacy settings that have alway been in Facebook. The rest of the issues are solved by common sense, Do not click on any you are not ads, etc. End of Story
Why would anyone want to put their address or current location on a computer program with 500 million users? What are the weirdo odds in a number that large?
Of course not. The senior executive staff there just doesn't get it.

Really, it is getting bad enough we should consider a class action suit against them for raising the risks to privacy for all of us by creating such a careless atmosphere. But it would be hard to make that stick. So maybe a class action suit on behalf of Facebook users only. That would have a better chance.
Oh, and another thing: Zack, a college educated, native speaker of British English should not have all the mistakes of grammar and orthography you have in this article.

1) where is the antecedent of 'which' in the sentence, "It wasn?t too long ago that the social network considered buying up Foursquare which never made it through. So, in true modern day competitive style, Facebook decided to make its own." You left it out!

2) in British English, corporations take the 3rd person plural, not singular (as in US English). But you wrote, " Facebook decided to make its own." Surely it should be " Facebook decided to make their own."

2a) Similarly, you also have "The Electronic Frontier Foundation has documented..." instead of "The Electronic Frontier Foundation have documented..."

3) the word is 'apparently', not 'apparantly'!! Don't you use a spell-checker??
@mejohnsn
Get over yourself, who gives a crap.
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I have never felt the slightest need to have any relations with Facebook, and the more I read about it the more strongly I feel that has been a wise decision. I really can't think of any reason that signing on to it would do me the slightest good and am increasingly glad that I never did.
Considering the provenance of Facebook's "creator" and the track record of same, it is incredible that anyone who is concerned with a modicum of privacy would even sign up. Facebook exists to make gobs of money for a very small group of people and they will step on your face to snatch a profit. Why does anyone even think they need that "service"? You want to have a mouthpiece and control over it - create a web site. It's very easy today.
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Is this even a question? Serious?

User goes to website, website knows users IP. IP tells website that user lives at location.

Not every user knows how to set up a proxy server, and when you access a proxy server you basically give the info to the server but hide it fromt he website. Is that what you really want to do?

It should not even be a question about whether or not we trust Facebook, because they have that data as soon as you connect and so can any other webpage.
tried to go to facebook just now and got:
Facebook Login
Account Unavailable
Your account is temporarily unavailable due to site maintenance. It should be available again within a few hours. We apologize for the inconvenience.

now THAT'S scary
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Can Facebook be trusted?
drf999 19th Aug 2010
Absolutely not.
Part of the many reasons you'll never find me on Facebook.
@mejohnsn: I never knew "British" English had so many hard-and-fast (an American idiom) rules !
Perhaps you have switched on the MS Office Grammar rules (known for causing many sensible sentences written using the Passive Voice to be completely ruined by being shoehorning into an Active Voice) and run it over the text with Language set to EN-GB ?
One thing about English usage is that you can never say "always" - or "never", for that matter ...
I think usually, plural tends to be used for entities ostensibly composed of individuals, like a football team, whereas mega-corp will be referred to in the singular ("IBM is ..."); but it really depends on context, taste, and common usage.
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You must be foolish if you believe that Facebook doesn't give out any localized informationas their service is built on selling profiles for advertisements...
Perhaps we all should support the old-school account-free web?
I'm using http://www.whapee.com, as it is the only anonymous service I know, that allows the upload of anonymous and geotagged messages and photos.
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good idea about facebook
gavin.chan 30th Sep
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