Social media shows Democrats 'on track' for 2012 student support

Social media shows Democrats 'on track' for 2012 student support

Summary: The vast majority of the Generation Y voted in Obama in 2008 as the first 'Facebook president'. And, it's looking likely he'll succeed again.

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President Barack Obama may well scoop a 2012 electoral victory with the help from college student support, social media analysis suggests.

A poll carried out by Harvard University found the president's approval rating has risen to 55%, six per cent in just over as many months.

Along with this, it found that 80% of all 18-29 year olds, and with 90% of all students on a four-year degree course, had access to a Facebook account.

The survey suggests a massive shift away from the traditional soapbox-like hustings of face-to-face politics, towards indirect mass communications through social networks.

But ironically enough, it is the traditional values of the voter that are falling foul of the social revolution.

Along with the increased support for Obama and the Democrats, the Republican Party is still failing to grasp the younger vote, whereby in 2008 where the vast majority of younger voters voted Democrat.

And I have a theory as to why.

In college, the rules of political engagement have changed. No longer is there the 'left' and the 'right'. One of the key features to today's youth, the Generation Y, is this bridged gap to form a 'liberal conservative' alliance.

Then again, to say such words in Britain during this time of austerity measures and public cutbacks could cause a riot in your back yard.

In short, the conservative student today takes on more liberal values unseen by the older Baby Boomer generation.

A conservative upbringing does not automatically denote traditionality, opting for traditional marriage values, a pro-life persuasion and an anti-socialism attitude. In my experience, it is clear that college and university students who would vote for the center-right are progressively becoming more liberal in their views, especially towards issues of diversity where they face same-sex relations and issues of pro-choice decisions.

According to FOX, only 32% of the younger demographic voted for McCain, with 66% voting for Obama and the Democrats.

This university 'tertiary' socialisation process breaks away from the primary and secondary familial socialisation, where values and opinions learned from family and close friends are diversified and challenged in the highly charged atmosphere of college and university.

Traditionally, the coasts of the United States tend to vote Democrat, with the 'middle bit' voting predominantly in favour of the Republicans.

But considering so much of mid-rural America is without broadband access, focusing vast quantities of social media in their direction is going to be a failed art form.

I could, of course, write an entire dissertation on this topic, but truthfully only time will tell. Elections are mathematically an algorithmic mess of numbers, probability and on the most part - spin.

But one thing is for sure, is that the Republican Party and other minority parties need to focus their efforts on a hard-line stance to liberal values, if they wish to gain the younger vote.

Times have changed, and today's youth are the most liberal yet - and disillusioned.

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  • Youth...

    Most of the youth I know support Ron Paul, not necessarily as a Republican, either. It's the message. (liberty, get govt off your back and for God's sake knock it off with all this war!)
    pgit
    • RE: Social media shows Democrats 'on track' for 2012 student support

      @pgit Or, more basically- war = no, pot = legal :)
      Gritztastic
  • RE: Social media shows Democrats 'on track' for 2012 student support

    Of course when you go to those liberal colleges where the students are heavyly brainwashest they will vote how there instructers tell them to. They want to pass the classes
    rparker009
    • RE: Social media shows Democrats 'on track' for 2012 student support

      @rparker009 I agree completely... it sickens me to think how people so educated can be so stupid. <br><br>Oh, let's give this guy another Nobel "Peace" Award for bombing Libya.

      Failed Stimulus, Gas almost $4/Gallon, Three Wars, 14+ Trillion Debt, Obamacare, and the economy is still tanking.
      gtatransam@...
      • Exactly!!!

        @gtatransam@...

        And thank god we didn't get McCain... Can you imagine how bad off we would be if that doofus was in the white house??? Sheesh... The entire economy would have tanked within 90 days and it would be total anarchy...
        i8thecat
      • i8thecat: Still very ignorant and unthinking...

        Look, McCain would not have been much better than Obama, but, he would not have added $4 trillion to the debt, we would not have a federal deficit of $1.70 trillion, and he would not have put $1 trillion dollars into the stimulus toilet.

        Come to think of it, the country would have been much better off with McCain, even though he is just a RINO and democrat-lite. No doubt, the country would still be in a mess, but not as big a mess as Obama has turned it into.
        adornoe
    • RE: Social media shows Democrats 'on track' for 2012 student support

      @rparker009 ...heavily and brainwashed, THEIR instructOrs... perhaps you should try one of those colleges: just saying.
      tujais
      • RE: Social media shows Democrats 'on track' for 2012 student support

        @tujais
        Of course the teachers union supports Barracka Hussein. After all they both believe the same thing. If it is not a Union job then ship it to another country. Heck maybe Barracka Hussein will get more money this time from Al Quedia and Al Jezera. After all he wants to push his Arab agenda. The two party system, that works so well in the middle east.
        Rick_K
    • RE: Social media shows Democrats 'on track' for 2012 student support

      @rparker009 And how does the professor determine who voted for who? Even if there was such a professor in the US, all it takes is a student poll volunteer to snag a roll of 'I voted' stickers and hand them out to students as they arrive in the class. I think you may be 'heavyly brainwashest' if you think US elections are like Kazakhstan elections.
      Gritztastic
    • RE: Social media shows Democrats 'on track' for 2012 student support

      @rparker009 And you base your opinion on what empirical data? Most universities and colleges are not liberal or any other political extreme. You need to get up off your tail and get new talking points other than what you hear on Fox News or Rush Limbaugh.
      drichards1953
      • So ignorant!

        Look, survey after survey, do show most colleges and universities to be liberal.<br><br>You may have been out of the loop, but, most people in the U.S., at least those in the know, are aware of the pervasive liberalism throughout our college system. Most professors, to the tune of around 90% are liberals, and the intent was, from the beginning, to get those young minds indoctrinated before they hit the private sector. And, that indoctrination has worked, where most people leaving colleges carry that bias with them to the private sector, and they'll vote liberal for a long time after they've left college. The intent is clear, and the results reflect effectiveness of that strategy. Most of those graduates haven't learned any different, and they won't learn any different until they've been in the real world for a few years.
        adornoe
    • a quick way to put it, but generally so

      @rparker009 The net effect is the same as how you put it, but the real forces at work are applied at the graduate level and 'trickle down' to where you see undergrads sucking up to the professor's views.

      If they want to succeed in post-grad, they have to get money. (grants) That money comes with the strings attached. You have to understand the status quo and develop theses that further that world view.

      I have family that's way up in academia, they freely admit to sucking up in order to compete for money and space in official publications. It's a no-brainer career move to do so. Publish or perish.

      It's rare someone truly bucks the system in a given field. Seeing this as their meal ticket in the distant future, you can see how any idealism amongst undergrads is quickly planed, routered and lathed into a uniform shape. They willingly do it to themselves, basic conformity, the survival instinct.

      Attach to this the politics associated with where the money comes from, and the agenda that money is being spent on and the political views of students on average is nothing but a response to basic survival.

      And people want to believe they are 'their own man,' so you'll see them vigorously defending/advancing their 'believes' without the slightest critical thinking, let alone realization of where they get their ideas in these first place.
      catseverywhere@...
  • Liberal when you're 20

    What's that saying, "if you're not a liberal when you're in your 20s, you don't have a heart. If you're not a conservative when you're in your 30s, you don't have a brain." Once they get out into the real world and see a paycheck stub with deductions, they'll slowly shift to Republican.
    edyang
    • RE: Social media shows Democrats 'on track' for 2012 student support

      @edyang

      I'm not republican nor democrat, I prefer to be unaffiliated. With that said, I'm in real world and I fit this demographics, however, there is one thing I doubt you realize. The republican party support less taxes on the top 1%? Case in point the Estate Tax. To further the blow to the middle class, we now support the wealthy in taxes. The middle class became the beast of burden to everyone else in the US due to Deregulation and Reaganomics. We've seen the effects of Reaganomics, and we (the middle class) are paying for the polices of the past now. The top 1% holds clear majority of the US wealth and there is a huge gap between the upper crust and the middle class, and this is largely attributed to deregulation. In stead you playing party politics, take some time and do a little research and form an educated opinion to find which candidate matches your paradigm.
      mgaul
      • You need to start getting educated on the facts...

        because, you sound like an echo-chamber for liberal talking points.

        First off, you need to learn that the rich are not the enemy, and that, most of the rich are not rich because they stole or had advantages handed to them through government. And, to top it all off, the rich are part of the foundation which made the U.S. the greatest economic power in the history of the world. Without the rich and the ability to create more wealth and more rich people, then the U.S. would turn into just another third world country.

        <b>Bill Whittle On Eating "The Rich"</b>

        http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/03/31/bill_whittle_on_eating_the_rich.html

        Reaganomics, to correct your ignorance, was the reason that government got a boom in tax revenue during the 1980s, and the rich actually ended up paying about 95% of the taxes. The poor don't pay taxes, and the middle class pay a pittance in comparison to what the rich "contribute" to government finances. Again, education would be very helpful in ridding yourself of that ignorance.


        For the real causes of our economic decline, read:

        <b>?Compliance?: The Word That Sunk a Million U.S. Jobs</b>

        http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/compliance-the-word-that-sunk-a-million-u-s-jobs/?singlepage=true

        When it comes to economic ignorance, read:

        <b>The Audacity Of Economic Ignorance</b>

        http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=555735&p=2

        Why there are no jobs in America:

        <b>This Is Why There Are No Jobs in America</b>

        http://dailytradealert.com/2010/08/23/this-is-why-there-are-no-jobs-in-america/

        If you need a few more lessons, let me know. There is plenty more to share.


        I disagree with that article a little bit, because, it's not "a million jobs", it's "millions of jobs".
        adornoe
      • Wow adornoe... Did you drink &quot;ALL&quot; the Kool-Aid???

        @adornoe

        You are just eating up all that BS the Republicants want you to believe... Fact is, the republican agenda only benefits the top 2% and all the rest are just wannabe richies who shoot themselves in the foot with every vote they cast.

        Ever hear of a tax shelter? Do you think it was invented by the middle or lower class? Take a moment to think about that, I have a feeling you need it.

        You should try a big glass of common sense, right now, you don't have any and you could use all you can get.

        I'm not a republican nor a democrat either... I am registered independant. Right now the richies are really really scared as more and more Americans are not buying the BS propaganda they are selling. They know they might have gone too far this time and may have to pay the price. People are pissed off at this economy and it is the richies who brought down the house of cards that they themselves built.

        Why don't you step back and look at all your republicant propaganda through the eyes of a child and tell me what you see... It aint pretty and most of it is mind numbingly stupid.
        i8thecat
      • i8thecat: Stick with the tech discussions; you're too ignorant

        on the political issues. <br><br><br><i>Wow adornoe... Did you drink "ALL" the Kool-Aid???</i><br><br><br>The drink that was actually used in the incident which created the saying was "Flavor Aid" laced with cyanide, but, with your ignorance, I highly doubt you would've known.<br><br><br><i>You are just eating up all that BS the Republicants want you to believe...</i><br><br>That's so stupid to believe that I actually need for republicans to tell me how to think. After having been a liberal for a great part of my life, I'm pretty sure that I know how to think for myself, which is something that I know for sure that most liberals don't know how to do. You are a big example of the liberal lemmings who do follow whatever liberal leaders want their voters to believe. I doubt that you can actually think on your own.<br><br><i>Fact is, the republican agenda only benefits the top 2% and all the rest are just wannabe richies who shoot themselves in the foot with every vote they cast.</i><br><br>That is so asinine. <br><br>Look, when it comes to republicans, their agenda is what has kept this country going, in spite of all the liberalism that has caused so much damage to the economy and the country. Without republicans there to undo the damage from democrats, the country would've turned into another USSR or another Cuba or another Venezuela, decades ago. You need to learn what the democrats have actually done to destroy the country. Look around you. The 20% unemployment (that's real unemployment), and the recent economic collapse, are the results of liberal policies, not republican ideas. <br><br>The fact is that, most republicans don't aspire to become rich, although there's really nothing at all wrong with being rich. Most republicans are realists, and hard working, as opposed to the liberals who expect government to take care of them. And, like I said, I too was a liberal at one time, and I applauded every government program which sought to do things for people, including the poor and the not so poor. But, with more knowledge and more wisdom, I began to realize that, liberalism was a prescription for destruction of the country, and we are witnessing that right now with heaving government spending and large unsustainable government programs, and no real solutions forthcoming from liberals. The best that we are hoping for is a more responsible government, starting with cutting the deficit and the spending.<br><br><i>Ever hear of a tax shelter? Do you think it was invented by the middle or lower class? Take a moment to think about that, I have a feeling you need it.</i><br><br>And, what the heck is wrong with a tax shelter. In fact, what the heck is wrong with trying to not pay any taxes at all? When government misspends and overspends, we would all be better off with tax shelters and lowered tax rates. If we as individuals and families and businesses are expected to live within our means, we should expect government to do the same. <br><br>The fact is that, a tax shelter is a way for someone to try to keep "his own money". Do you understand what that means. It means the money that a person worked hard to earn, and not "government money". Is that too much of a foreign concept for you to understand? Money kept in people's hands works it's way through the economy to create more wealth, whereas, our money in government hands is mostly wasted. Government does not create wealth; government just spends and wastes.

        And, one thing that, apparently too ignorant to be aware of, is that, tax shelters are used by democrats and republicans and independents and all people who want to protect their assets. In fact, more democrats use loopholes to protect their assets than republicans, because, there are more "rich" democrats than republicans. So, which is the party of the rich? Bet you didn't know that.
        adornoe
      • i8thecat: Stick with the tech discussions (continued)

        <i>You should try a big glass of common sense, right now, you don't have any and you could use all you can get.</i><br><br>Actually, you just demonstrated that it's you without any common sense at all. After being a liberal and believing that government knew best, I decided to finally start using my mind and some real common sense, and I figured out that, conservatism was a much better set of ideas for keeping our country in the right direction. <br><br>When it comes to ideologies, it's liberalism which has failed, over and over and over again, no matter where's it's been tried and no matter when. So, when it comes to socialism, as practiced by liberals/democrats, it's quite clear that they're incapable of common sense, as indicated by them trying "to do the same idiotic things, over and over again, with the hopes of a different outcome each time". There is no common sense at all in liberalism/socialism, and the current state of the country should be enough proof of that insanity. <br><br><i>I'm not a republican nor a democrat either...</i><br><br>Irrelevant!<br><br>How a person thinks and acts is not represented by a label. When someone quacks like a duck, and walks like a duck, and looks like a duck, then, there is no doubt that, that someone is a duck. <br><br><i>I am registered independant.</i><br><br>I labeled myself as an independent for a while, after moving from being a liberal. But, after a while, I began to realize that, being independent didn't mean a thing when I found myself voting mostly republican. So, through common sense, I gave up all pretenses of being "independent". Most people, when they vote, vote for a democrat or a republican. I knew and know many people who are "independent" when it comes to party labels, but, when I dig deeper, they tend to always vote the same way, either republican or democrat. They're only fooling themselves. Yeah, there might be those who do swing in either direction, depending on the issues or the candidates at the time, but for the most part, they're not really "independent". And, from your tone, I doubt that you're any kind of independent. You very likely, vote democrat most or all of the time.

        <i>You should try a big glass of common sense, right now, you don't have any and you could use all you can get.</i>

        Actually, you just demonstrated that it's you without any common sense at all. After being a liberal and believing that government knew best, I decided to finally start using my mind and some real common sense, and I figured out that, conservatism was a much better set of ideas for keeping our country in the right direction.

        When it comes to ideologies, it's liberalism which has failed, over and over and over again, no matter where's it's been tried and no matter when. So, when it comes to socialism, as practiced by liberals/democrats, it's quite clear that they're incapable of common sense, as indicated by them trying "to do the same idiotic things, over and over again, with the hopes of a different outcome each time". There is no common sense at all in liberalism/socialism, and the current state of the country should be enough proof of that insanity.
        adornoe
      • i8thecat: Stick with the tech discussions (continued)

        <i>I'm not a republican nor a democrat either...</i><br><br>Irrelevant!<br><br>How a person thinks and acts is not represented by a label. When someone quacks like a duck, and walks like a duck, and looks like a duck, then, there is no doubt that, that someone is a duck. <br><br><i>I am registered independant.</i><br><br>I labeled myself as an independent for a while, after moving from being a liberal. But, after a while, I began to realize that, being independent didn't mean a thing when I found myself voting mostly republican. So, through common sense, I gave up all pretenses of being "independent". Most people, when they vote, vote for a democrat or a republican. I knew and know many people who are "independent" when it comes to party labels, but, when I dig deeper, they tend to always vote the same way, either republican or democrat. They're only fooling themselves. Yeah, there might be those who do swing in either direction, depending on the issues or the candidates at the time, but for the most part, they're not really "independent". And, from your tone, I doubt that you're any kind of independent. You very likely, vote democrat most or all of the time. <br><br><i>Right now the richies are really really scared as more and more Americans are not buying the BS propaganda they are selling.</i><br><br>You must be one of the most ignorant people that I've ever had a discussion with. Did you notice what happened in the 2010 elections? Nobody is playing the rich card nor the poor card. People are voting with their own issues in mind, and what the democrats had to sell, the people just weren't buying. You do know that the democrats took a big shellacking in the 2010 elections, don't you? Or, where you in a cave somewhere?<br><br>When it comes to the BS, the people are buying it from the democrats anymore, and republicans took the congressional house, and it's almost certain that they'll take the senate next year too. And, it's very likely that Obama too will be "removed" by the people in 2012. So, it's very clear that, it's you who is very ignorant about the situation all around you. <br><br>It's not about liberal or republican propaganda anymore. It's about reality, and the people have realized that the government is very close to going bankrupt. Reality is a much more powerful weapon than propaganda. Liberals cannot hide from reality, and it came to bite them hard in their collective butts, and it's going to bite them harder next year.<br><br><i>They know they might have gone too far this time and may have to pay the price.</i><br><br>B.S.!<br><br>There is no such thing as going too far when there is a need to save the country from the madness of the out-of-control spending and the massive borrowing which is threatening to bankrupt the contry. <br><br>The republicans find themselves in a very good position going into the 2012 elections. The democrats are the ones playing defense and hoping that republicans will try to shut down the government. Democrats are bankrupt as far as ideas are concerned, and they need to demonize republicans in order to try to stay in power. But, the fact is that, the people aren't buyng the democrat lies anymore. It's the democrats that are going to pay the price next year, and it's the American people who are going to be the big winners. But, even as a republican myself, I don't trust republicans in congress to do the will of the people as the people want, so I will work, again, to keep the pressure on whoever is in control, to get them to work "for the people". In the last 30 or 40 years, republicans have been acting as "democrat-lite", where they've played along with democrats, just to get along. No more! And, there are actually many republicans who are running just as scared as the democrats, because, they're actually fearing the wrath of the people this time. <br><br><i> People are pissed off at this economy and it is the richies who brought down the house of cards that they themselves built.</i><br><br>That's a very idiotic statement. <br><br>The "richies", as you put it, is one of the main factors that has made this country as rich as it was, and as rich as it can be again. If anybody wants to play the "wealth" card agains the rich, then the whole country will suffer if the rich do stop being rich for any reason. Wealth is not self-created. It comes from the people who know how to create it, and know how to use it. Government is incapable of creating wealth. Wealth comes from the private sector, and it's the rich and the entrepreneurs and those with the ideas and the initiatives, who create wealth. If all wealth were to suddenly get transferred to government for "re-distribution" through government spending, then, a short time after that, there would be no wealth left at all, neither in government nor in the private sector, and what would result is deep poverty throughout the country. The wealthy, through their investments and spending, are part of the economic engine that creates the wealth.<br><br>Again, take it for what it's worth, but your negative views about the "richies" is just pure idiocy.
        adornoe
      • i8thecat: Stick with the tech discussions (continued)

        <i>Why don't you step back and look at all your republicant propaganda through the eyes of a child and tell me what you see... It aint pretty and most of it is mind numbingly stupid. </i>

        Actually, it's the democrats who like to treat their voters as children and don't trust the people to make their own decisions with their own money, or in their education, or in the way they vote. You are part of that childish view on the issues. You don't know how to examine the issues with any kind of depth. You have been dumbed-down, and you have a very simplistic view of how an economy works. If you knew any better, you wouldn't even think about discussing any government or political issue. You are still very economically naive. And, politically, you are still very ignorant and dependent on what the democrats tell you to think, even if you claim to be "independent". No one with any kind of common sense would think like you do.

        BTW, you sound as ignorant about political issues as you do on the technical issues. My advice: stay with the tech issues, where I don't like to engage on the stupid "my gadget is better than your gadget, or my gadget/OS provider of choice is better than yours" discussions. Those are better left for children, and that's where you belong. Go find a grade school somewhere where you might have a better chance against those children's "knowledge" on the issues.
        adornoe