Indian govt.’s plans for indigenous operating system gather momentum

By | October 9, 2010, 11:44am PDT

Summary: The Indian government’s plans for an indigenous operating system has gained momentum and now has a dedicated team of 50 software engineers from the defense organization.

The Indian government seems to be taking security risks posed by Western services quite seriously. There have been several reports of the government’s IT infrastructure being targeted. A few months back, the Indian government officials made public their plans of developing their own operating system. Back in February, a task force comprising of personnel from the Prime Minister’s Office, Defense, Home, Telecomm Ministries was assigned to the project.

An official said, “A sanitized, lower level operating system and application software may be preferred to the advanced versions, which necessarily require access to internet for upgrades.” The government has ensured that computers with sensitive data or connected to crucial networks do not have Internet access thereby reducing possible cyber threats.

India’s security agency, the DRDO (Defense Research and Development Organization) has been working on the operating system and has setup a software development center in the nation’s capital. A dedicated work force of 50 software professionals will be working from Bangalore and Delhi. The team will be coordinating with Indian IT companies and institutes like the IIT on developing the operating system.

The DRDO Director General Dr. VK Saraswat  talking about the project said, “There are many gaps in our software areas; particularly we don’t have our own operating system. So, in today’s world where you have tremendous requirements of security on whatever you do…economy, banking and defense…it’s essential that you need to have an operating system.”

The on-going discussions with RIM to be able to access encrypted Blackberry emails are part of an effort to ensure India is better equipped to handle the new age security threats.

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RE: Indian govt.?s plans for indigenous operating system gather momentum
johnny48 5th Nov
@johnny48 Thanks for the information. This is a wonderful post!!
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I have always wondered what was keeping busy the thousands of people employed by the windoze division. Now I know.

They are mostly fighting bloody internal turf wars that drain their energy to a level where you need one hundred developers to do the work of just one.

After all, as the Indians are showing us, it takes only 50 to develop an OS from scratch, and a safe one too.

Boooo, Microsoft. Move to India, you'll be much better there.
Everything is possible for Bhartiya, do you know how many bhartiya are working in Microsoft, I think we have no need of 50 professionals, 5 bhartiya professional are enough to do this silly thing.

Why we are not trusting on our abilities, Why we are always thinking we are not good in technology.

Bharat is more then 1,00,00,000 Years old. we discover several thing that others never think even. such a great knowledge we have form past.

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hahah! Well the OS these guys will be having won't be doing half things Windows does!
@Manan Kakkar
Do not under estimate the power of indians! (although I guess you are right about the capability of the os).
But the point is that these systems will be much harder to break into as

1. No/Limited public documentation of internals of the os
2.No /Limited third party extensions (less attack surface)
3. No compatibility concerns ; you can cook up the os with the latest tech without the fear of breaking anything.
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Lack of source code or documented internals hasn't helped Windows' security one little bit. And there are always compatibility concerns as soon as you deploy something in a production system. The only difference here would be the scope of the breakage would be limited to India only.
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@johnny48 Thanks for the information. This is a wonderful post!!
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@Manan Kakkar & you say it as if there's something wrong with that
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Its depressing to see the level of technological illiteracy among our leadership. Writing your own OS is not something to be taken up lightly. No other government in the world is attempting this task.
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Then you must have a look at chinese govt. High time to have a customized version of linux/BSD for indian militery I suppose. If they choose Windows then God must help them.
@babscontact@... I think there is this belief that to be accepted as a truly self-sufficient & successful nation Indians believe they have to move away from the religious stereotypes that linger. Choosing Windows will be a huge fail. Make your own Linux version. Much easier to do & more software & hardware that you can also modify.
@babscontact
Sounds like you don't understand what an "OS" actually entails. The Chinese are customizing Linux. The Indians are creating their own OS from scratch: "source code and architecture will be proprietary". These are not the same thing at all.
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Well, China, NK and several other governments have their own OS. I'm optimistic. The IITs and DRDO are a bunch of really smart people.
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@Manan Kakkar

Linux and BSDs are developed by a global pool of programming talent, which probably already includes many smart people from India. People who think that they are smarter than the rest of the World combined are setting themselves up for a very big and expensive fall.

BTW, isn't China's own OS called "Red Flag Linux"?
@Zogg huh? What's your point exactly?
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Two points, actually.
Zogg Updated - 17th Oct 2010
@Manan Kakkar

Firstly: It doesn't matter how smart the guys at the IITs and DRDO are, because the best they can hope to achieve is duplicating the efforts of a group of people who are almost certainly smarter. (And that's an optimistic estimate, BTW.) In fact, this sounds like yet another example of "Not Invented Here":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_Invented_Here

"As a social phenomenon, "Not Invented Here" syndrome is manifested as an unwillingness to adopt an idea or product because it originates from another culture, a form of nationalism."

Secondly: China didn't make this mistake when it created its own OS - it started with the Linux kernel.
@Zogg just to be clear I have a gut feeling that these guys will be using the *nix kernel as well.
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Rick_R 10th Oct 2010
Fifty bucks says they wind up with a fork of something like Linux or Free BSD. Even Apple--one of the world's largest manufacturers of personal computers--realized that when they needed a new operating system it wasn't feasible to develop a new, modern, fully-functional operating system from scratch.

And, realistically, they can't develop an entire communications infrastructure based on "proprietary" protocols. They are going to have to be able to transfer data to and from industry-standard formats. Do they plan to develop custom weather-radar systems, imaging systems, image-processing hardware, etc? And who is going to develop anti-malware software?

Plus, Microsoft and open-source basically copy ideas from each other. Even if they put 1,000 people on development, that is a drop in the bucket when it comes to a new operating system AND custom software for all the applications, etc. After all, if they are going to simply take open source applications and write a programming interface to their operating system (like Wine to run Windows applications under Linux) the applications will still be vulnerable to attack.
Microsoft will be sueing them for every single bit of that software.
Good luck guys, hope you pull it off.
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you are all forgettting one thing...India has a very rich talent of Software Engineers.so i dont think that India cant develop an OS, but it may not match that of Windows or Linux or Apple, hope it would be better than others of same type.
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kraterz 10th Oct 2010
"Developing" a new OS from scratch seems too far fetched, and a waste of time. Their best bet is a stripped down fork of OpenBSD, function-by-function logic and code audits (OBSD is audited anyway), and closing / locking down all unnecessary API's or syscalls.

A completely new OS might be nice, but who's going to write the guts of it? The scheduler, device drivers, syscalls and API hooks, and higher level software will take years to write and debug.
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sam@... 11th Oct 2010
A lisp machine would do it just fine!
They probably got their hands on Microsoft's source code & realised what crap it was so now they're going to fix it & re-sell it under their own banner. Good for them. Can I have a copy too please?
Mind you, working in a Government mindless position without access to the Internet really sounds like fun...
... deciding to reinvent your own wheel. If the Indian Government really wants a bullet-proof O/S then maybe it could hire developers to thrash security problems out of either Linux or BSD instead? They're going to have to do this kind of work anyway for any home-grown O/S, but this would give them a head start of about 20 years' work from a global pool of software developers.
It sounds like a stupid plan...Why operating system from scratch? I mean, it is no big deal to write OS with 50 engineers but why from scratch?(Another 3000Crore like CWG?)
So if it is security issue, BSD sources are FREE.FREE to customize, FREE from licensing. You can do whatever you want to...And know every inch of software is right or not...
If you write an OS, what about applications? Write TCP stack again? Write all apps again? Or are they going to port it? CRAPPY IDEA to write it again...
And if hardware is BlackBOX to be exposed by security, are they going to design all new hardwares? CPU, switches,network card, memories??? Von neumon architecture?
Crazy...Just take a Free BSD box, do whatever you want to...
If they are going to write from scratch, my 100$ on after 4 years, they will go back and customize free BSD...
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Indian Gov developing own OS?
wanderson 11th Oct 2010
If the Indian government embarks on project to develop their "own" OS for running Microsoft Windows software, then I and millions of technologists world-wide will have lost a great deal of respect for the country.

"Re-inventing the wheel" is a senseless and stupid proposition, when there are excellent, unbeatable, world class solutions that already exist, and there for the taking.
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OpenBSD has "proven", repeat proven to be one of if not the most secure and reliable OS in existence, is Free/Open Source Software (FOSS) under the BSD License, which means it can be tailored to the Indian government use and they would not have to publish or share any of the changes/modifications - ever.
Likewise for Trusted FreeBSD.

There are even "secured" distributions of the GNU/Linux OS which would be quite suitable, and save the Indian Government many years of fruitless work and hundreds (or billions) of millions of rupees, and which most likely would bring them to same position.

Why is God's name would any country want to make technology compatible with Microsoft's very weak, very insecure, very unreliable, un-scalable applications software - which was designed to run on a weak Operating System, and therefore cannot be made robust?

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The Japanese tried it in the 80's with the Tron. They failed even though at that time they were technology leaders..

The Indian government do not realize the implications of a new OS. This is good way to waste their energy.
I'm sure India has the resources to do it but does it have the stamina for the long-haul. So apart from saying good luck, I would say there are two thing to note.
1. Sort out India's software patent law before starting this project.
2. Take careful note of the history of those who have gone before. I'm thinking in particular the US Governments efforts with Ada. It started small and proprietary and after a very painful development period it finally became a very worthy programming language; and it only took 20 years. wink
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brijix2222 21st Nov 2010
May be they are just planning to build an application framework on top of linux/bsd kernel that will implement lot of cyber security...custom protocols...
And if Google can call android as OS, samsung can call bada as OS, DRDO can surely call this as India OS...
If this is true, then it does makes sense to me.

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