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Ballmer on Natal: 'The most exciting product we'll bring to market this year'

By | April 27, 2010, 4:33pm PDT

Microsoft is launching a lot of products in calendar 2010. Which of them is the most “interesting” and potentially groundbreaking?

According to Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer  — who spoke to a group of executives in Bogota, Colombia, on April 26 — that distinction belongs to Microsoft’s Project Natal, a gesture-based game controller that Microsoft will be previewing at the upcoming E3 show and launching this holiday season.

From a transcript of Ballmer’s April 26 remarks:

“Perhaps for me the most exciting product we’ll bring to market this year, and it really fits in this context, actually comes out of our videogaming group. You might say, why would I talk to a group of CEOs about videogames? Because the technology actually is very general purpose, and we’ll see come into the rest of our lives pretty soon.

It’s a technology that we call Natal. It’s a little camera and microphone that sits on top of your TV set. And if you want to control the TV, you don’t go get some remote control or big fat gaming thing. If you want to look through TV channels, you just gesture, and the computer recognizes your voice, it recognizes your gestures. You want to see the next sports program, you go like this, it will cycle you through. You want to play a game and you need to jump, you jump. I’m not going to jump too hard; a little bit too high altitude here in Bogota for that, at least for me. But it recognizes you, it knows your voice, who you are, your gestures, what you’re doing.

“And if you think about that in a lot of settings, why am I carrying this thing? I’ve already forgotten three times where I set it down. I should just be able to go like this, and the camera should recognize that gesture and control the slides for me, and let these kinds of things freely happen.”

Ballmer is making the rounds in South America to talk with a number of customers, with a heavy focus on Microsoft’s Online services — the family of Microsoft-hosted applications, including Exchange Online, SharePoint Online, Office Communications Online, Live Meeting, CRM Online, the Business Productivity Online Suite (BPOS) and the forthcoming Windows Intune management offering.

Last week, Microsoft expanded availability of its Microsoft Online Services to 17 new markets. Colombia is one of the newly added targets for BPOS.

Meanwhile, speaking of Microsoft’s Online Services offerings, the Redmondians unveiled earlier this week new functionality that is part of the May service update for its Dynamics CRM Online service.

The May update will support integration between the Microsoft’s Dynamics CRM (either the on-premises or hosted version) and its Dynamics GP ERP product. Officials made the announcement as part of its Convergence conference, which kicked off this past weekend in Atlanta.

Microsoft officials said last week that Dynamics GP 2010 will be available to customers as of May 1. At Convergence, Microsoft also announced a new promotion for Dynamics GP customers, via which they will be able to purchase Dynamics CRM Online for $19 per user, per month, for a year.

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RE: Ballmer on Natal: 'The most exciting product we'll bring to market this year'
jackson1984-24316069205748857739440257893812 10th Oct
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statuskwo5 27th Apr 2010
Natal looks good, but I play games to relax after
a hard day at work or school. If I wanted to
exercise I would have bought a Wii (no, wait, I
would have went jogging or swimming). However,
Natal will be good for social gaming when you have
friends over. wink
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LOL... Cameras all over the house???
i8thecat 28th Apr 2010
Like anyone is putting cameras all over their
house, pointed right at themselves, at all
times... ROTFLMAO!!! Natal is already dead...
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who says it has to be that way??
rengek 28th Apr 2010
Who says that the technology won't evolve into 1 single camera or camera-like device for the entire room or home for that matter?

Its a nice technology for people with limited mobility, for handling things that are out of reach. I can see this implemented in cars etc...

Lots of stuff. Perhaps you should think about it.
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Where did that come from?
BowTech 28th Apr 2010
Natal is primarily for the gaming market. It will work in conjunction with the x360. This is msft's answer to the wii, and Sony is also jumping on that bandwagon with Next. Imagine FPS games where you have to really run, jump, crouch, go prone, and raise your weapon. For those that want to game and stay fit, this will be great to avoid being a couch potato. Natal isn't about monitoring your every move.
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It came from Mary-Jo's story...
i8thecat Updated - 28th Apr 2010
Try reading it and try to comprehend what
Ballmer is talking about here...

A technology that requires aiming a camera and
mic at yourself...

"It?s a little camera and microphone that
sits on top of your TV set. And if you want to
control the TV, you don?t go get some remote
control or big fat gaming thing. If you want to
look through TV channels, you just
gesture."


"it recognizes you, it knows your voice, who
you are, your gestures, what you?re doing."


So MS wants the world to aim cameras and
microphones at themselves so their cameras can
recognize who you are and what you are doing,
and watch your every move, waiting for you to
make a gesture...

Those MS cameras have got to be secure... I
mean after all, MS is known for being secure...
No one could hijack your camera, use it to spy
on you... nahhhhhh...
This will be about as popular as the big ass touch screen table.
Ballmer just doesn't get it. Again Ballmer shows his ineptitude as
an innovator. Maybe he should stick to copying other companies
technologies and pawning them off as MS innovations. Though
they don't do that very well either. When is the board at MS going
to show some guts and replace this jackass?
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Richard Flude Updated - 27th Apr 2010
This stuff is priceless. The most exciting product a company claiming USD8+ BILLION a year in R&D is a little game controller.

You couldn't write a better comedy!

Monkey boy should ask himself how this is better changing channels than his remote control;-). I can think of a number of ways it is way worst.
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You guys don't get it
ozguy 28th Apr 2010
If you actually listen to want Ballmer was saying, the implementation of a camera on a TV where you can play games and change the channel is only one implementation of the real diamond which is a system that understands you!

Imagine having these throughout a building, house or somewhere. You no longer need to carry a remote, or some other things, it just knows who you are what you're doing and can translate this into all manner of actions..

The possibilities are endless and only limited by one's imagination and is by far and away more powerful than anything else we have seen.

Of course you never really thought about this but rather just posted some trolling drivel.
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Equally...
Jeremy-UK 28th Apr 2010
OK, but we'll have to wait and see how this really pans out. How
nuanced is the system? Do I need to make big gestures, or can it see
"hand signals" [insert your own joke here]. If I have to make large
movements I know by the end of the day, I'm going to be REALLY
tired. How much am I expected to use my voice? Again I can't keep
talking all day, and imagine what that'll do to an open office (horrible,
and Microsoft you'll never get any work done as some sweaty man in
the next cubical shouts: "Developers, Developers, Developers!" at his
computer).

Now as a gamer, I'm not sure about this. Maybe I lack imagination but
I'm so used to pushing buttons I can't quite get my head around
flailing to play Halo, with the Wii I get a "prop" (little stick) that helps
me into the game, I don't think an empty hand is really so cool. The
thing that really gives me pause is the video that Microsoft put out of
the race game - honestly, I want a wheel, "doing the mash-potato" to
steer looks seriously iffy. I'll admit Lionhead Studio's take looked really
good, but I'm still a bit hazy as to how you work that into a successful
game mechanic.

But in the Office, I really have trouble seeing this. Microsoft's
"multitouch" technology is really half hearted in Windows 7, it seems
to have VERY limited utility, is this going to be the same?

I'd have thought Windows Phone 7 would be the most exciting thing
Microsoft are doing this year. Full multitouch UI, integration with XBox
Live, and a whole new platform. So if a new game controller is the
most exciting thing going on in Seattle, then we're in for a dull year
from Microsoft.
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what are you smoking?
john_gillespie@... 29th Apr 2010
or is it the kool-aid?
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You just dont get it!
jhughesy 28th Apr 2010
If this was Jobs you would be wetting your pants about now....
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Err...
Jeremy-UK 28th Apr 2010
If it was Steve Jobs we'd not know anything about it yet.
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You would have it
Turd Furgeson 28th Apr 2010
it just wouldn't support multitasking or 3G. And it wouldn't work with standard TV inputs you would have to buy an adapter.
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lol
rengek 28th Apr 2010
and flash and really doesn't do anything but is pretty and everyone around the apple campus will lineup for it.

But if its from jobs everyone will know about it because someone will conveniently leave it at a bar in redwood city.
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If this were Jobs
jfgeschmidtt 28th Apr 2010
If this were Jobs Mary Jo would be 6 feet under.
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If it was Steve Jobs, the world would be proclaiming him as ...
de-void-21165590650301806002836337787023 28th Apr 2010
... the second coming.


Oh ... wait ...
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You have no vision for innovation
rengek 28th Apr 2010
If you think this technology is limited to just video games then you have no vision for innovation.

This is being introduced and marketed for gaming. But its going to branch into computing.

For example, people like touch screens. But it doesn't quite work perfectly on the desktop. You would have to lean over and touch the screen. For a lot of people their monitor is not on top of their face and it would only take about 4 inches of space to make constant touching of the screen awkward. It would be much easier for you to raise one hand and gesture towards the monitor.

If you can only think of how this applies to video games then you really don't know how technology evolves.

The technology in this thing is pretty impressive. The early test shows the camera mapping your entire body so that people/objects moving around you doesn't interfere. Its a brilliant technology.
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Not MS vision
Richard Flude 29th Apr 2010
Only MS thinks a touchscreen on a desktop was going anywhere (dumb, fingerprints anyone?). This interface appears just as silly for the example given by Steve B.

But time will tell. Anyway it appears some are impress that this is the most exciting product to be delivered from MS this year;-)
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When is the board...
HollywoodDog 28th Apr 2010
going to replace 'this jackass'? His '15 months' are up around the end of this year, so I predict it will be around 1st quarter 2011.
All parties must be allowed to save face. He will declare victory and retire.
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Natal is misapplied
Bruizer Updated - 27th Apr 2010
Natal is really cool. Personally, I don't think MS is thinking big
enough and pervasive enough. Done right Natal could make
Windows revenue look tiny.
I believe they are thinking big, but its very new and will take time to implement new systems and products...
Yes, he claims it ist he most interesting but he still sees this as the 3
screens strategy. A technology anchored like a albatros to the XBox
where Natal is a technology that could be anchored to Natal. 100%
standalone.

If its interaction, biometrics and recognition are 1/2 as good as the
demos present...

I still think MS is thinking small on Natal.
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Theres nothing anchored to xbox about it
Johnny Vegas 28th Apr 2010
Thats what he said. Do you see multitouch anchored to surface or do you see it in windows7, zune, windows phone, etc?
Spot on. But I do think this is just a first step to a much larger plan for the technology. I'm sure Microsoft knows this and you'll see the technology used in many other applications at some point in the future.
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Context.
Jeremy-UK 28th Apr 2010
Unless devices have a really deep understanding of context the support
calls for this are going to be "interesting".

User: It's deleted my files!
IT Drone: What were you doing?
User: Nothing.
IT Drone: Nothing?
User: Well I was just standing here, scratching my ass.
IT Drone: Oh... Well that'll do it then.
User: Hey, moron what are you doing?
IT Drone: Pulling your files out of your ass - now hold still.
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Thaaaats funnny...
windozefreak 28th Apr 2010
I caaaan Haaarddddly get uuuup offfff theee flooooor, laughing so hard
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Sony is not sitting idle either
xp-client 27th Apr 2010
Sony is coming up with Move which although is only a motion controller not gesture-based is much more accurate for Wii.
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About as accurate as Motion
LiquidLearner Updated - 28th Apr 2010
which has been out a year now. Also, Sony and MS slammed Nintendo for their controller and now Sony is making a direct ripoff. At least Natal is different enough that it can cross over from gaming into every day life. Makes me think of minority report.

(Edit - title was supposed to say Motion+ but apparently that's not allowed)
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Oh no...
Jeremy-UK 28th Apr 2010
Minority Report? Am I the only person on the planet who thinks that
looks like SO much more of a work up than using a mouse? And the
film's stupid too.

I don't want computers like Minority Report.
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correct
john_gillespie@... 29th Apr 2010
It's a controller for the PS3 and it works. It does not pretend to be Home
Automation System and ... oh yeah ... it works.
It isn't just the little game controller that has people excited - it is the technology. Voice and gesture recognition is a step into the future. I for one would love this technology to get integrated into the pc and in general an intelligent home. Imagine this - I step into my home after a tiring days work, Natal recognizes its me and does all the things I normally do after I come back - opens up my email (my face is my password), opens up my Facebook to let me check on my friends and plays my favourite Simon and Garfunkel songs -all automatically.
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It will work on the PC at launch
LiquidLearner 28th Apr 2010
not just the XBox. It's just most likely to catch on at first through the XBox platform.
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Wanna bet?
Info-Dave 28th Apr 2010
XBox is PPC based, Windows 7 is x86 based. It will take a fair amount of work to port Natal to Windows 7. My guess is that Natal on the XBox will be a proof of concept project on XBox.
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maybe
gcomputeronet@... 29th Apr 2010
But then games are ported fairly regular. The Natal controller will likely plug in using USB so will also likely work with Windows 7, like the current controllers do. The driver software would be the piece that is different, but I'm sure they already are working on that.
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Really?
Jeremy-UK 28th Apr 2010
Has life come down to this? Where our everyday lives are so humdrum
that a computer can predict EXACTLY what we want to do based on
yesterday, and all social interaction is done by updating %&@! Facebook?

I have a feeling mine will just hand me a nice sharp kitchen knife and
wait for me to finish before clearing up.
Reminds me of a scene from the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy where Trillian is listening to the radio and doesn't dare move in case it changes station.
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Nice reference!
Jeremy-UK 28th Apr 2010
I wish I'd thought of that - yes, exactly. And they'll probably give it a
similar personality disorder to Clippy.

Oh I can't wait.
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Don't forget HAL - NT
JK of Seattle 28th Apr 2010
NT
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Maybe some people would customize it down to just require two fingers to get it to reboot. :-D

I'm not sure how good a voice and gesture based system in a room that encourages conversations is going to be.
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Or...
Jeremy-UK 28th Apr 2010
Or just one finger to shutdown...
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How 'bout one finger
ubiquitous one Updated - 28th Apr 2010
The middle one for Ballmer and his hand/eye coordination toy. The "ultimate" for couch potatoes.

Tell me, will it flush the jon for us, too?

lol... grin
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this product is DOA because of lack of transparency through OSS.
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your 100% epic fail track record remains in tact...
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words
dhays 28th Apr 2010
the word is intact (one word, as two words it has a completely diferent meaning!)
I am not sure I want a completely computerized home--too many tv shows and movies showing what can go wrong if programmed/hacked by someone malicious. Besides, we need to do somethings for ourselves once in a while. The idea that your household appliances need to connected to the internet is, in my opinion, ridiculous as well.
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Well,...
windozefreak 28th Apr 2010
It's happening. Vizio is putting wifi into their large LED units. I think this is a good thing. Kinda wish my old projector screen in the living room would break down and give me an excuse.
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Do you know any other buzz words?
cne@... 28th Apr 2010
God, we get tired of an OS no one will ever adopt on any scale that has meaning! The only thing DOA is your faith in a failed idea, mostly because it, like Apple, is a religion, not a tool!
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Man your sad...go find a highway to play on - nt
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On the other hand windows phone has caught iphone/android totally flatfooted with their thumb in their a** and will be the coolest phone this year and next.
How old are you.... 12?

The windows phone is for teeney bobbers that don't care about a smart phone... It's a "Hey Dude, I got your text" phone
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